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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: LisonAlGaib]
    #14612205 - 06/14/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

In my opinion thats maturity. It may seem like sticking your head in the sand but being all angsty isn't gunna change a thing.


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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
    #14612233 - 06/14/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I don't see what change has to do with angst. Sticking your head in the sand isn't maturity, it's willful ignorance.

Anonymous has roots in inane childish pranks and has grown to involve themselves in far more serious matters as well as inane childish pranks.



This video gives some idea of what the idea of Anonymous is. I personally haven't participated in many of their activities, I find the idea perfectly fascinating.

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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: whiteelephant]
    #14612264 - 06/14/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

anonymous the group is not anonymous and is controlled opposition. don't follow them into the abyss. counter intelligence programs are the norm.


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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: whiteelephant]
    #14612320 - 06/14/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Perhaps I should have been clearer. What I meant by angst is, think of the actions people commit when they feel this way. It certainly doesn't further your agenda. I didn't mean willfull ignorance. Be politicaly aware, attempt to change the minds of those around you, but don't be violent and all in your face about it. linkamathingy

I wouldn't go as far to say controlled opposition, just usefull. Those are the things you have to keep in mind when acting out.


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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14612404 - 06/14/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Oh my bad.

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zappaisgod said:
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LisonAlGaib said:

Since all authority stems from violence, by allowing only the system to be violent we empower the system indefinitely.



One can only hope so.




Why would you hope so?

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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: LisonAlGaib]
    #14612478 - 06/14/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

"The system", which you seem to disdain, has provided you with the freest and easiest life in the history of mankind.


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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14612716 - 06/14/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Agreed.
However, that's the problem.

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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: LisonAlGaib]
    #14612742 - 06/14/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The only thing problematic is that it has nurtured a generation of brats who don't appreciate it.


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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14612787 - 06/14/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hard to appreciate when you gotta look over your shoulder constantly from getting murdered or robbed by your fellow people

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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14612790 - 06/14/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Agreed.
However, that's the problem.




WTF?


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The only thing problematic is that it has nurtured a generation of brats who don't appreciate it.




Exactly!


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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14612813 - 06/14/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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The only thing problematic is that it has nurtured a generation of brats who don't appreciate it.




Exactly.  Something given has no value.
I think I remember some dead, rich, white guy, saying that freedom isn't free that the cost must be repaid with the blood of tyrants and patriots.
Just like hard-working, self-made millionaires always seem to have obnoxious children.

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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: LisonAlGaib]
    #14612899 - 06/14/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hell. Maybe a full on depression would do my generation good. It(regrettably) took me many years to appreciate how much luxury I am afforded on a daily basis. In my opinion, it just comes down to parenting. My parents gave me a childhood they never had and did I appreciate it at the time. Fuck no. Outside of the basics, my children will work for almost everything they want. Regardless of how much I currently make. Free shit just makes people wanna suck on the tit that much more.


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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
    #14612922 - 06/14/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Our schools are always telling children about rights, with no lesson planned on responsibility.  You tell a child nothing but what people are expected to give them, and nothing about what is expected of them in return, you have just created a brat.

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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: LisonAlGaib]
    #14613007 - 06/14/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
The only thing problematic is that it has nurtured a generation of brats who don't appreciate it.




Exactly.  Something given has no value.
I think I remember some dead, rich, white guy, saying that freedom isn't free that the cost must be repaid with the blood of tyrants and patriots.
Just like hard-working, self-made millionaires always seem to have obnoxious children.



That is not my experience.  :shrug:  The children with a greater sense of government entitlement seem to come more from bum parents than rich ones.


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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14613110 - 06/14/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I can see your point.  Kids of poor parents are more likely to expect a gov't handout, but in my experience, the rich expect everyone else to serve them.  I just think it is an example, regardless of economic status, that not teaching your children their responsibility in this world, breeds ungrateful noncontributing brats.

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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: LisonAlGaib]
    #14613500 - 06/14/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I can see your point.  Kids of poor parents are more likely to expect a gov't handout, but in my experience, the rich expect everyone else to serve them.  I just think it is an example, regardless of economic status, that not teaching your children their responsibility in this world, breeds ungrateful noncontributing brats.



Yep.


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Re: Seriously Anonymous? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14613562 - 06/14/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Anonymous(the group) is not anonymous by naming themselves. they're a group of people promoting chaos over order.

anonymous:
without any name acknowledged, as that of author, contributor, or the like: an anonymous letter to the editor; an anonymous donation.

i feel i must warn people because so many misunderstand the group and advocate what they do, because of a cool movie they saw, all the while internet privacy is whittled away, in wait of a false flag meant to convince the masses of a need to destroy Anonymous(which they have confused with anonymous).


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