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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Offlineivander
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    #14611125 - 06/14/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)



So what can I say. This picture said it all. Welcome! :sunny:


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #14611781 - 06/14/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ha! Yep, it's a clusterfuck with no purpose and even God doesn't really want to deal with it. Sounds about right to me!


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: laserpig]
    #14612566 - 06/14/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hmm.. I have totally different interpretation. You are the God... so, welcome!


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #14612634 - 06/14/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not God, believe me, I've checked.


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: laserpig] * 1
    #14612659 - 06/14/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

laserpig said:
I'm not God, believe me, I've checked.






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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14612797 - 06/14/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Great OP ! :thumbup:


@Cosmo

Great reply ! hahaah :rofl:


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: jivJaN]
    #14613968 - 06/14/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Great post ivander, made me chuckle!

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Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us all. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #14614822 - 06/14/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It's all the same in the end...


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: Ziggy-Shr00mdust]
    #14615702 - 06/15/11 02:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Ziggy-Shr00mdust said:
It's all the same in the end...



There is no end to begin with... :cool:

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laserpig said:
I'm not God, believe me, I've checked.



Then what are you? Are you not part of the divine? Do you not have your own creative power?
Maybe you have some different idea of what God supposedly is?


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #14616690 - 06/15/11 10:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:grin: before there was, after there is...infinity.

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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #14617345 - 06/15/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Are you not part of the divine?

No.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: Icelander]
    #14617775 - 06/15/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Lol. I know that u are not :tongue:
And that is something only atheist or someone who never heard and/or don't have any concept of God would say.


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #14617852 - 06/15/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I am neither. :ass:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: Icelander]
    #14617924 - 06/15/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Why can't life be simple and the universe just have a big gang bang....call it the big bang:wizard:


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: i like cow poo]
    #14618214 - 06/15/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So Ice.. your God is not divine? :omgz:


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #14618224 - 06/15/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

My god is not.:satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: Icelander]
    #14618252 - 06/15/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Then what are you.. just curious, cuz I really dont know..


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #14618431 - 06/15/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

animal


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: Icelander]
    #14618557 - 06/15/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

A rabid one at that :grin:

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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #14618676 - 06/15/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

laserpig said:
I'm not God, believe me, I've checked.



Then what are you? Are you not part of the divine? Do you not have your own creative power?
Maybe you have some different idea of what God supposedly is?



I was half-joking, but in all seriousness: I don't want to stoop to calling that which actually exists "God." That which actually exists is simply itself. What the thing called "I" is, is a (smallish) segment of that which actually exists. It isn't God, it isn't me, it isn't you. You, me, and God, are ideas.

Don't get me wrong, in many ways I'm sympathetic to the notion of God, but I don't believe it is rigorous enough to serve as an appropriate label for "our true selves," or however else you would like to say it. I do like to use God as a metaphor, though.

For example, I have described psychedelic experience as "probing the mind of God." I feel that psychedelics (can) cast the mind far away from "you," and set it tumbling or sailing through "the mind of God," IE the totality of all the possible ways that a mind could be, in principle, irrespective of ego or personality. During your trip, your mind takes some small path through this infinite space of possible mindstates. 

But that's just poetics. It's not a rigorous definition of reality, and I don't believe there is any such "thing" as the mind of God.


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: laserpig]
    #14619058 - 06/15/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Fuckin' great comic OP.  :thumbup:


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: laserpig]
    #14620899 - 06/16/11 03:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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I was half-joking, but in all seriousness: I don't want to stoop to calling that which actually exists "God." That which actually exists is simply itself. What the thing called "I" is, is a (smallish) segment of that which actually exists. It isn't God, it isn't me, it isn't you. You, me, and God, are ideas.

Don't get me wrong, in many ways I'm sympathetic to the notion of God, but I don't believe it is rigorous enough to serve as an appropriate label for "our true selves," or however else you would like to say it. I do like to use God as a metaphor, though.

For example, I have described psychedelic experience as "probing the mind of God." I feel that psychedelics (can) cast the mind far away from "you," and set it tumbling or sailing through "the mind of God," IE the totality of all the possible ways that a mind could be, in principle, irrespective of ego or personality. During your trip, your mind takes some small path through this infinite space of possible mindstates. 

But that's just poetics. It's not a rigorous definition of reality, and I don't believe there is any such "thing" as the mind of God.




Yup, I can relate to the idea. It is somewhat difficult to talk about God, cuz, nowadays, that idea can be interpreted in many many different ways.

Now, you are speaking about states of mind, and how it relates to the idea. IMO, even our minds, egos, and everything else is part of this grand idea, which some people call God. No need of him/her to have mind... its just is - infinite, or infinite idea.


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #14621795 - 06/16/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think we both mean very close to the same thing here. I like the way you think. :thumbup:

As I said, I don't really like naming that which actually exists, but what it is does seem to be a lot like "an infinite idea," which is basically how I understand Platonic Idealism. I've heard Terrence McKenna suggest that "the world is made of information," IE, the primary things which exists are patterns. So our minds "fall out of" these interactions of pattern, as does 3-D space, and everything else. Makes sense to me.


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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #14621812 - 06/16/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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infinite, or infinite idea.




Totall agree! :thumbup:

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Re: Welcome to the club [Re: ivander]
    #24217193 - 04/04/17 08:02 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I was going trough some of my old threads and found this pearl.. so I figured I give it a bump.
Its a great comic after all... :heart:


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