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MrPeanutButta
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Re: Heroin plus shrooms [Re: snoot]
#14619793 - 06/15/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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drr said: The downside to heroin is the deadly addiction that has taken the lives of many great people. The fact that you haven't encountered that yet tells me you should quit while you're ahead.
one could argue the only reason peoples lives have been lost and in jeopardy in regards to opiate addiction is because it is infact illegal. If it was legal their would be proper channels to acquire such things besides in a bathroom or in a dark ally somewhere, avoiding shady individuals and aids. Also proper amounts, clean product....etc... you have no argument.
I agree with this. Yes there are always people who will just keep going and going until they hit that fatal dose. But in many cases the reason for overdose is because the purity of the product varies greatly. People load up their normal amount and it just happens to be more powerful.
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klopi123
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I believe this poster stated his heroin use was for the treatment of pain. Stating the pain is quite extensive. If this is the case obviously removing the pain and improving quality of life is advisable.
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MrPeanutButta
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Re: Heroin plus shrooms [Re: klopi123]
#14619923 - 06/15/11 10:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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klopi123 said: I believe this poster stated his heroin use was for the treatment of pain. Stating the pain is quite extensive. If this is the case obviously removing the pain and improving quality of life is advisable.
Yes, but that is what I was saying. Heroin is a poor choice for the treatment of pain because of it's highly addictive qualities. I think most any other opiate would be a better choice.
I would even say Kratom would be a great choice because it kills pain just like other opiates but does not lead to addiction nearly as fast. It is also MUCH less expensive.
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ArtieFartie
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I've always wanted to try Oxycodone 60-90MG + a hit of Acid.
My fiancee is a little apprehensive though..
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Dawks
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Mikey851 said: Heroin is a poor choice for the treatment of pain because of it's highly addictive qualities. I think most any other opiate would be a better choice.
You best be trollin'
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love2shpongleIRL
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Heroin isn't anymore addictive than any other opiateIMO. There are pharmaceutical drugs ala hydromorphone that people say give a more powerfull rush than even heroin.
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ArtieFartie
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love2shpongleIRL said: Heroin isn't anymore addictive than any other opiateIMO. There are pharmaceutical drugs ala hydromorphone that people say give a more powerfull rush than even heroin.
This is true.
I've done heroin.
I'd rather get 4-5 roxis [Oxycodone 30MG] any day.
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love2shpongleIRL
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I've done it to. From me, the cuts and unknown purity make it not worth it. IMO, there are safer ways to go about treating pain and getting high. Now, if he had pure diacetyl-morphine I would not be saying this it's just the variation in quality that makes it dangerous. There was a doctor who found that most overdoses happen because the cuts tend to potentiate respiratory depression. I can try to find the article if you wish.
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carbonsteel
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Re: Heroin plus shrooms [Re: klopi123]
#14621622 - 06/16/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Caught my eye immediately!! " Heroin plus shrooms"
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klopi123 said: I think most people have the attitude of concern, this is by no means judgmental.
I come in peace with an attitude of concern on this post ^^
I would think that heroin before shrooms, as i am under the impression that heroin might decrease the trip as it is stronger.
I will be the last person with the right to judge but i would like to state my opinion also, I think that heroin is good, too damn good  I do believe there are users with very strong will power who can use it moderately, but many will fall under the "weekly - couple days - nightly" and so forth.
I understand the great concern some members have after witnessing what their peers gone through. heroin might be safe for the body if pure and what not... but extreme caution is advised.
Desperation... the craving... the back pain... the dread and lastly the SATISFACTION! when you caught "the dragon". Im no hater of users.. just a lot of pity for what many user will face in the future but tons of admiration & respect for recreational users on their will power. I once felt the pride of having that kinda will power...
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MrPeanutButta
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Re: Heroin plus shrooms [Re: Dawks]
#14621928 - 06/16/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mikey851 said: Heroin is a poor choice for the treatment of pain because of it's highly addictive qualities. I think most any other opiate would be a better choice.
You best be trollin'
No I wasn't. Morphine and Heroin (especially heroin) are known to have a more euphoric rush than many other opiates especially when IV. I guess I should have clarified if you shoot Heroin as opposed to popping an oxy.
I don't doubt there are other opiates with a similar rush, but that's what studies have shown is that most opiate addicts end up with heroin going IV because it is the best high that is the cheapest and easiest to find.
I know I might sound stupid right now, but I'm also going off of personal experience. If I overuse any opiate other than Heroin I almost have no problems when stopping use. Heroin on the other hand was extremely hard to stop and had the worst withrawals....except when compared to methadone and I believe that's because one dose of methadone lasts 24 hours so your body gets used to having it there all day.
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DrGreenThumb865
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Re: Heroin plus shrooms [Re: Oasis182]
#14621933 - 06/16/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oasis182 said: I think the general consensus here is strongly AGAINST heroin. It really is a terrible substance. I wouldn't recommend doing it at all, let alone mixing it with a psychedelic.
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snoot
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one of the most profound experiences in my life was when I dosed fetanyl/lsd/mdma/shrooms in the morning at a psytrance party and we layed on the ground and melted and watch the trees sway in the wind. It was wild.
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klopi123 said: I believe this poster stated his heroin use was for the treatment of pain. Stating the pain is quite extensive. If this is the case obviously removing the pain and improving quality of life is advisable.
Yes, but that is what I was saying. Heroin is a poor choice for the treatment of pain because of it's highly addictive qualities. I think most any other opiate would be a better choice.
I would even say Kratom would be a great choice because it kills pain just like other opiates but does not lead to addiction nearly as fast. It is also MUCH less expensive.
I don't really agree with this. I have used other opiates and they are honestly not much different from heroin to me. Also, it's not like I have much choice in the matter. I am working on getting a legit prescription as well as growing my own opium. But for the time being, heroin is the only opiate I can get. Pills are too expensive. Oxycontin is dead due to the new formula and the last thing I wanna do is ingest a bunch of APAP in vicodin. Besides, I always prefer to use natural drugs over synthetics (opium would be my opiate of choice if I had access) and because heroin is basically morphine and converts to morphine in the body, I feel that it is more natural than oxy or hydrocodone. I know this message board is focused on psychedelics and I definitely like psychedelics better than heroin but I also believe that nature gave us some wonderful non psychedelic plants and one of those is the opium poppy. Yes, it is highly addictive I am aware of that but I refuse to see it as wholly bad because it is plant which thus far has brought much pain relief to my life. It has helped me with my personal relationships because it makes me feel well enough to socialize. So far, I have managed to avoid addiction and I don't really see myself escalating my use. I am already quite unhappy with the amount I spend on it.
As for katom, LOL. Kratom sucks. I get killer hangovers from it and it's hard to dose (always end up taking either too much or too little) and when I try to sleep on kratom I get frightening visions. I've been more scared on my kratom highs than any mushroom trip.
So anyway, aside from the major $ I drop on it my heroin use is not harmful. Hell, my marijuana addiction was more harmful to me than heroin. Marijuana made me anti-social, paranoid as hell, panic attacks, lung damage, trouble in school and other negative effects. Of course I think part of it is I am older, more experienced and no longer wish to hurt myself with drugs now so I have much better self control but I honestly found marijuana more enjoyable and more addictive than I find heroin. Heroin is a lovely drug, as long as you can control yourself and avoid addiction. I love it because I can get super high and rather than wake up with a hangover in the morning, I wake up still high ready for the day.
I love mushrooms way more than heroin though. Nothing gets me higher than psychedelics.
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