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[CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes
    #14610544 - 06/14/11 05:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Vapes On a Plane
June 12, 2011 - cannabisculture.com

Flying the pot-friendly skies just got a little easier, now that it's been confirmed that Health Canada-licensed medicinal cannabis consumers are able to legally consume marijuana both in the airports while waiting for their flights and while on the plane during the flight.

At the end of May 2011, as a license-holder, I took it upon myself to clear up any ambiguities in regards to where and when I'm able to medicate.

Up until this point, we could only speculate as to what exactly the policies were of the corporations and agencies we deal with when we choose air travel. At various times, cardholders have been hassled going through security, as CATSA (Canadian Air Transport Security Authority) agents haven't been trained to recognize either the MMAR card or paper licenses. The old policy stood that even if the cannabis is legal, if it's found amongst your carry-on items, a report would have to be made, sometimes involving police stationed in the airport – and it could take up to a good twenty minutes to work through the process. Often insensitive agents pull out bags of medicine to display for the entire security area, remarking at the scent and/or asking what strain it is. After the last time this happened to me, the CATSA representative for Calgary International Airport suggested that I file a complaint in order to get the policy changed.

"Believe me, our agents would much rather just see the card and wave you through without the hassle, so if enough complaints are made, the policy can be changed."

Whether or not there were several complaints, my complaint was voiced and heard and so I was contacted by a CATSA representative this week, informing me that the policy is indeed changing and that a memo to that effect will be circulated nationwide within the month. This memo/newsletter will explain to CATSA agents about the new policy of recognizing MMAR cards/paper licenses (pictures of the cards will be provided to them) and explain that filing a report when they come across one isn't necessary. There will be special notes made regarding the professional, courteous conduct required when an agent does come across marijuana; this medicine is to be treated as they would any other prescription medication. Agents don't pull out your Viagra and comment on it, so therefore, the same should be true for your pot.

So now that we know we can bring our meds with us through security, what about consuming them in the airport? That's the bailiwick of each individual airport authority, so I called the two airports I was dealing with, YYC (Calgary) and YYZ (Toronto). I asked both if there was any reason why I wouldn't be able to use my vaporizer once I’m past security and they said, "As long as you can find a plug…"

This left the last piece of the puzzle: could I vape on the plane itself?

The airlines themselves control what happens on their planes, so I called up one of the notoriously friendly WestJet agents and posed the question. I explained what a vaporizer is used for and how it works and after checking with a supervisor, she confirmed that as long as the device was battery-operated (there are no plugs on WestJet planes and you can't burn butane on them, either) and I was using it during the times when I would normally be able to use an electronic device (not during take-off or landing), I was free to medicate as needed.

This news came none too soon, because I arrived for my flight to Toronto for the Treating Yourself Expo absolutely sick as a dog. After intestinal surgery and a stomach bug, I was looking so bad, WestJet wasn't going to let me board the flight. Thanks to my fellow cardholding traveling companions, the Fagins & Rob Blair, I was able to set up my Zephyr and vape myself into feeling and looking good enough to get on the plane, over the course of about an hour-and-a-half.

Once on the plane and in the air, the NO2 vaporizer was packed with the much-needed AK47 and I was able to periodically relieve my nausea throughout the over-three-hour flight, becoming the first person to legally and openly vape on a plane. I suppose high at 30,000+ feet is about as high as anyone's ever gotten on a commercial airline without medibles.

On the flight back to Calgary, I joined the new Mile High Club once again by availing myself of a Launch Box vaporizer provided to me by Dom Cramer, owner of the Toronto Hemp Company (thank you to Tracy Curley for arranging it).

Unfortunately, after contacting Air Canada about their policies surrounding vaporization, I am not as encouraged. Not only did I wait several hours to speak with an agent, Air Canada claimed that, "…it’s not on our list of things you can bring on the plane, so therefore it’s probably not allowed on the plane." This reasoning is, of course, ridiculous. So I encourage all cardholders to contact Air Canada themselves and demand that the same courtesy given to WestJet fliers be given to those traveling on Air Canada. In fact, I encourage everyone to contact any and all domestic airlines and find out their policy about vaping on a plane.

I can honestly say that without the ability to consume my medicine on a fairly continual basis, I would not have been able to make this past trip. I know of many med pot patients who could never before even consider travel that would keep them away from their medicine for such an extended period of time as a cross-country flight, or even a two-hour wait to board the flight. Bravo to the forward-thinkers at WestJet, CATSA and the various airport authorities.

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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: veggie]
    #14610559 - 06/14/11 06:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Canada :feelsgoodman:


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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14610605 - 06/14/11 06:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

wow Canada is really cool:happyweed:

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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: Beanhead]
    #14610636 - 06/14/11 06:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Beanhead said:
wow Canada is really cool:happyweed:




We are actually not that cool :feelsbadman:
Especially with our <sarcasm>awesome</sarcasm> government


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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14610718 - 06/14/11 07:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

tymoteusz3 said:
Quote:

Beanhead said:
wow Canada is really cool:happyweed:




We are actually not that cool :feelsbadman:
Especially with our <sarcasm>awesome</sarcasm> government




Outward appearances can be decieving. :lol:

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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14610780 - 06/14/11 08:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, you guys got your own slice of bush with harper.


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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
    #14610788 - 06/14/11 08:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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love2shpongleIRL said:
Yeah, you guys got your own slice of bush with harper.




:feelsbadman:


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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
    #14610801 - 06/14/11 08:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It shits me how over the top these so-called "medical" users are... every second sentence they seem to feel the need to justify their use of marijuana and distinguish themselves from ordinary smokers - "medibles"? seriously?

Oh and I feel sorry for the passengers on the plane - I would hate to have to sit near this guy.

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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: user1837483975]
    #14610808 - 06/14/11 08:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Canberra said:
It shits me how over the top these so-called "medical" users are... every second sentence they seem to feel the need to justify their use of marijuana and distinguish themselves from ordinary smokers - "medibles"? seriously?

Oh and I feel sorry for the passengers on the plane - I would hate to have to sit near this guy.




Why?
Vaporizing doesn't leave smoke.
Why shouldn't he be able to have his medicine?
Just because some people abuse the system, it actually helps others.
Should they be forced to use more harmful pharmaceuticals that do not work as well, just because?

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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14610816 - 06/14/11 08:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

No that's not what I'm saying. By all means use your medicine as prescribed. I just don't like it when people harp on and on about it, that's all.

Vaping doesn't cause smoke, no, but it does stink. Pretty unpleasant to be around.

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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: user1837483975]
    #14610848 - 06/14/11 08:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Canberra said:
It shits me how over the top these so-called "medical" users are... every second sentence they seem to feel the need to justify their use of marijuana and distinguish themselves from ordinary smokers - "medibles"? seriously?

Oh and I feel sorry for the passengers on the plane - I would hate to have to sit near this guy.




I agree. I have a hard time believing a vaping passenger wouldn't have problems with people seated around said vaper. Some active vapors must be exhaled and I would think that people are going to have an issue with this. Especially since it is a closed space. I would say this will be a very short lived allowance.

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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: user1837483975]
    #14610849 - 06/14/11 08:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Has anyone ever analyzed expired marijuana vapor?

If it has any sort of actives in it, you shouldn't be able to use it in a plane.  Beyond this, smell should be a consideration.


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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: badchad]
    #14610866 - 06/14/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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badchad said:
Has anyone ever analyzed expired marijuana vapor?

If it has any sort of actives in it, you shouldn't be able to use it in a plane.  Beyond this, smell should be a consideration.



:whathesaid: Although I do love the idea of it being allowed.

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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: sporophight] * 1
    #14610950 - 06/14/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah... Harper sucks... and the above article is not true. If you go to an airport with pot you will be thrown in jail. I can see them making it legal to vape in the smoking areas of airports, but never on the plane. Sorry to say, but this just isnt true. please dont go to an airport and try to smoke, itll only get you in trouble.


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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: user1837483975]
    #14611615 - 06/14/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Canberra said:
It shits me how over the top these so-called "medical" users are... every second sentence they seem to feel the need to justify their use of marijuana and distinguish themselves from ordinary smokers - "medibles"? seriously?

Oh and I feel sorry for the passengers on the plane - I would hate to have to sit near this guy.




Agreed. Vaporizing cannabis is no more tolerable to other passengers than smoking a cig on a plane. And dont argue with me saying "o but doodz I love the smell of weed", because you're single anecdotal experience doesnt change the fact that a majority of passengers won't agree.

I'm a huge pothead but I'm sick of all the "medi" bullshit. I have the ability to wait till I get off the plane to smoke again, and I'd put money on the fact that 49/50 medical users could do the same. This medical shit has just gotten so fuckin retarded.


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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: LightShedder]
    #14611823 - 06/14/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As much as I'd love to vape on a plane I think its rude and inconsiderate to those around you. Although there is no smoke it would still smell pretty badly especially on a plane.

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Re: [CAN] Marijuana Patients Allowed To Vape In Airports, Planes [Re: lfdi]
    #14613481 - 06/14/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I can smoke all day, every day on my airline of choice.



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