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How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to?
    #14610689 - 06/14/11 07:05 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah.

Personally how often do you trip on shrooms? Also, how often do you think it is 'safe' to... psychologically I suppose.

Personally I started shrooms about 7 weeks ago and have tripped every week since then except once. I don't know really what this is doing, if anything to me psychologically. I don't feel different, but it isn't exactly going to scream in my face either.


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: Highroad001]
    #14610841 - 06/14/11 08:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Highroad001 said:
Yeah.

Personally how often do you trip on shrooms? Also, how often do you think it is 'safe' to... psychologically I suppose.

Personally I started shrooms about 7 weeks ago and have tripped every week since then except once. I don't know really what this is doing, if anything to me psychologically. I don't feel different, but it isn't exactly going to scream in my face either.




Its whatever you feel comfortable with.
I was able to trip nearly every week for a while and I LOVED it. But alas I cannot anymore, life gets in the way, and perhaps it is better that way.

Just don't overdo anything. If you feel you have a problem / are slipping away, then cut back.
There is no hard and fast rules, and you get to make your own decisions based on how you feel yourself.
What may be good for you may be overdoing it for someone else.
Especially with psychedelics, some people may be able to handle trips more often, while it would mentally break another.
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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14610960 - 06/14/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i can trip any day weather i have things to do the next day or not. I do not do so rectangularly but i have gone on 3 day in a row trips. It all about ur comfort level and fear of what in ur head which i have none i think i have faced most of my fears and am ready to face any left.


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: metall]
    #14611076 - 06/14/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I do not do so rectangularly but i have gone on 3 day in a row trips.



LOL

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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: drr]
    #14611120 - 06/14/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I trip once a week. I'd like to trip even more but I don't want mushrooms/lsd to permanently lose their magic like weed did for me because I overly abused it. I have no worries about what it's doing to me psychologically because I believe that if it starts to get harmful, there will be signs before real heavy permanent damage is done.


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: opiate_fan]
    #14611469 - 06/14/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: Highroad001] * 1
    #14611941 - 06/14/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Personally how often do you trip on shrooms? Also, how often do you think it is 'safe' to... psychologically I suppose.




Repeatedly.  Often several days in a row.  There's no real psychological limit unless you have some kind of mental disorder.  The only downside is tolerance increases, but that's why ya grow 'em, right?

However, don't try this at home.  You will undoubtedly fail, becoming a homicidal maniac or serial killer.  Or worse. :shake:

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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #14611999 - 06/14/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The more easily mushrooms came to me, the less often I seem to want to eat them.

Grass is always greener syndrome I'm thinking.

At any rate, a couple good inner sojourns per year is about all I think is right for me.

Otherwise I seem to get a "what am I doing here again?", feeling.  Maybe it's just me, but doing it too often makes it less special.


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: LanLord] * 1
    #14612100 - 06/14/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think if you find the right drug, unlimited access to it, and few responsibilities that get in the way of you tripping, then the sky is the limit.  I've never grown bored with any psychedelic, they've never lost any magic even after repeated and abusive use. 

These drugs we take, be it shrooms, DMT, cactus, morning glory seeds are all easily accessible or grown.  With shrooms if you grow your own, you can have a lifetime supply for the price of a spore syringe, canning jars, and your substrate.  Morning glory seeds are indistinguishable from LSD for me after the third hour and are basically free.  For a few hundred dollars of MHRB you have a lifetime supply of DMT.  Cactus is easily grown and for an investment of a few hundred dollars you can be self sufficient for life too.  What a conveniently cheap and consistently available corner of the drug world that we inhabit.  These are inexpensive drugs that pack as much punch as nuclear fucking energy.

How often is too often?  What a fucking riddle to solve!  I often can't trust myself because it always feels right.  ALWAYS!  Would I rather be in the throes of the ecstatic bliss of slippery mindfuckery right now?  Yes.  And there is that part of me that is rational and suspects that too much of these drugs rewires my mind in a fucked up and unwelcome way.  These two Joe Molloys are constantly battling it out and I wonder if I have any influence in determining who is going to win.  It sucks no matter who wins.


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: joemolloy]
    #14612224 - 06/14/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I think if you find the right drug, unlimited access to it, and few responsibilities that get in the way of you tripping, then the sky is the limit.  I've never grown bored with any psychedelic, they've never lost any magic even after repeated and abusive use. 

These drugs we take, be it shrooms, DMT, cactus, morning glory seeds are all easily accessible or grown.  With shrooms if you grow your own, you can have a lifetime supply for the price of a spore syringe, canning jars, and your substrate.  Morning glory seeds are indistinguishable from LSD for me after the third hour and are basically free.  For a few hundred dollars of MHRB you have a lifetime supply of DMT.  Cactus is easily grown and for an investment of a few hundred dollars you can be self sufficient for life too.  What a conveniently cheap and consistently available corner of the drug world that we inhabit.  These are inexpensive drugs that pack as much punch as nuclear fucking energy.

How often is too often?  What a fucking riddle to solve!  I often can't trust myself because it always feels right.  ALWAYS!  Would I rather be in the throes of the ecstatic bliss of slippery mindfuckery right now?  Yes.  And there is that part of me that is rational and suspects that too much of these drugs rewires my mind in a fucked up and unwelcome way.  These two Joe Molloys are constantly battling it out and I wonder if I have any influence in determining who is going to win.  It sucks no matter who wins.




haha it sounds like me, where the sober me battles the trippy me because we each have different ideals and different ideas about life.

anyway, morning glory doesn't cause stomach discomfort for you? those seeds i would like to try again but i remember eating a bunch and getting a stomach ache and only a very weak trip.


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: opiate_fan]
    #14612241 - 06/14/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, the first two or three hours are hellish, but once you muddle through them its LSD time.  I've only done them a few times because there are much better psychedelics out there without the three hour torture ordeal.  I've ordered them off ebay a million times with the intention of using them again, but then I just put them in the drawer.  But if I was a kid without access the good shit, I'd be an LSA freak.


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: opiate_fan]
    #14612273 - 06/14/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I just make sure every responsibility is taken care of first.
so its always different. Sometimes every week, buts thats more in summer or during hunting season.

Keep everything squared. Rectangularly is the way to go. Lol


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: savage.renegade]
    #14612421 - 06/14/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Like others have said, it depends on your comfort level.

and it's not just about frequency, but periods and phases of different frequencies.

For example. You can probably trip every weekend for a month or two and be fine. But trying to trip every weekend for a year or two will start to make you loopy.

Also, the dosage/intensity of your trips will make this different.

I generally discourage people from tripping once a week for any longer than a month. And if you want to have prolonged frequent use, I say that every OTHER week is the the most you should do them, and even then that can be too much for some people.

I think once a month is just fine for about everybody, and that comes out to 12 trips a year.

Your urge to do it definitely changes with maturity (by that I mean familiarity with the experience, not necessarily age). When you first get into shrooms it's like "WOAH! That's fucking amazing, I want to do that ALL the time!!!" and as you gain more experience you see that high frequency tripping has a lot of draw backs and makes the experience less fun/rewarding.

At that stage I think people are ready to transition into more serious types of trips where they do it infrequently, but in high doses, and ready to face difficult experiences should they arise.

At least that's how it was with me.


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14612504 - 06/14/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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And if you want to have prolonged frequent use, I say that every OTHER week is the the most you should do them, and even then that can be too much for some people.




Very much down to the individual.  I've done them during my working week for months at a time, high doses, fully psychedelic every time.  I would call that prolonged frequent use. :lol:

The key IME is complete integration, otherwise you end up with what Joe's talking about, the Gollum effect.
"Drugs good!"  "No, drugs evil!" 

It also helps a lot if you can take 'em or leave 'em, and feel good either way.  Feeling good is good.

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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #14612539 - 06/14/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

you're right. Ultimately it comes down to the individual, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't have generalized recommendations for people's safety which account for the fact that SOME individuals won't be able to handle it.

Example: I may be able to drink an entire 5th of Jack Daniels in one night. There's probably a lot of people who can do this. But in general, it is recommended that you don't take more than a couple shots in an hour. And there's always gonna be that small 18 year old kid that weighs 110lbs who takes three shots and ends up passing out and puking everywhere.

Nobody knows their limits until they cross them. The trick is being able to recognize WHEN you've crossed your limit and then step back. This is a characteristic of maturity.


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14612823 - 06/14/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Every Monday, and more if the situation calls for it (music festivals, usually).  I've yet to see a downside or feel tired of it.


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: Highroad001]
    #14612873 - 06/14/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If I did them every week, I'd probably start to loose my mind(in a bad way)
Thats just me. Honestly I'd play it safe. Do a lil less then what you think you could get away with to leave room for error:awesomenod:


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14613073 - 06/14/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't have generalized recommendations for people's safety which account for the fact that SOME individuals won't be able to handle it.




:thumbup:

But beats me what that would be.  How about "once a month at most"? 

And then how to say what a good dose is for infrequent tripping?  Something "safe" for everybody? 

I've always abused drugs and it's so beneficial for me in general that mushrooms have such a small down side compared to the up - made to order for a bipolar person trying to stay on the manic side of the street. :lol: :yinyang2:

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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14613088 - 06/14/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: BlindBat]
    #14613107 - 06/14/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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It also helps a lot if you can take 'em or leave 'em, and feel good either way.




Hey Primal, do you think this is a choice or does it just kind of happen to you?


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: joemolloy]
    #14613238 - 06/14/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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It also helps a lot if you can take 'em or leave 'em, and feel good either way.




Hey Primal, do you think this is a choice or does it just kind of happen to you?




It took a lot of work to get there.  I keep talking about neuroplasticity, the obvious thing to me for a long time was that the mushrooms enabled to make lasting changes in the way my brain worked.  This was no illusion, I had people I knew tell me how much better I was functioning - there was essential damage done by a brain concussion that left me with delusions, visions, voices in my head, and an inability to plan for the future.

I got back to where I was before that happened, and just kept going.  The potential is enormous, and I think only beginning to be recognized.

I had to get to where I was just in the moment all the time, without desire for something else.  At any moment at all you, me, anybody has the opportunity to enter the Way.  This is the Tao calling you.  Buddhism says the same thing, drop your desires by the side of the road and walk to freedom in an instant.  It's not constant with me, it never is for anybody SFAIK, but it's there whenever I look for it.

And BTW, this is me totally straight talking to you here.  But you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if I was tripping heavily, though my spelling gets worse. :lol:

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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: Highroad001]
    #14613283 - 06/14/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

its all up to you man when i found my first patch id go there every2 days get 20-30 gs wet shrooms take em all that night that went on for 2 weeks i suppose i tripped 6 times in those 2 weeks i didnt notice any strong tolerance build up or any negative psycological effect after that i trip once a week just because of tolerance if you can handle the dose that you are taking you should be fine


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #14613729 - 06/14/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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joemolloy said:
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It also helps a lot if you can take 'em or leave 'em, and feel good either way.




Hey Primal, do you think this is a choice or does it just kind of happen to you?




It took a lot of work to get there.  I keep talking about neuroplasticity, the obvious thing to me for a long time was that the mushrooms enabled to make lasting changes in the way my brain worked.  This was no illusion, I had people I knew tell me how much better I was functioning - there was essential damage done by a brain concussion that left me with delusions, visions, voices in my head, and an inability to plan for the future.

I got back to where I was before that happened, and just kept going.  The potential is enormous, and I think only beginning to be recognized.

I had to get to where I was just in the moment all the time, without desire for something else.  At any moment at all you, me, anybody has the opportunity to enter the Way.  This is the Tao calling you.  Buddhism says the same thing, drop your desires by the side of the road and walk to freedom in an instant.  It's not constant with me, it never is for anybody SFAIK, but it's there whenever I look for it.

And BTW, this is me totally straight talking to you here.  But you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if I was tripping heavily, though my spelling gets worse. :lol:

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Interesting stuff, Primalsoup.  When I think of neuroplasticity and psychedelics I just see it rewiring my brain to make me seek more psychedelics.  You lucked out that psychedelics didn't exacerbate the problems you faced after your concussion, but I'm glad that you healed and are still able to have a good and healthy time tripping.


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: mynameismud]
    #14613810 - 06/14/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

lol iv never been good with punctuation or spelling and im high so that doesnt help


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: jackus]
    #14613941 - 06/14/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

PrimalSoup, it also seems like you know a thing or two about Tao.  Maybe it isn't all neuroplasticity (though I believe it's part), but also personal effort.  Or would you say the psychedelics changed your mind without much input on your part?


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Re: How often would you trip on shrooms? What would you consider a safe amount of times to? [Re: mundane]
    #14617537 - 06/15/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe it isn't all neuroplasticity (though I believe it's part), but also personal effort.  Or would you say the psychedelics changed your mind without much input on your part?




That's tough to say for sure, the healing effects I mean.  I'd healed from the concussion over most of a year, though it had serious negative effects on my life, but was left with some verbal damage (some sort of aphasia) that didn't get better over about 5 years.  I'd started serious cultivation efforts and with the success of that did the first of a continuing series of runs at transcendental nirvana. :lol:

But what happened was that the residual brain damage got better!  Pretty much all by itself, just with the consumption.  And it was no coincidence, as I had any number of people comment on the changes without even knowing what was going on.

That clued me in to the power of the mushrooms, and I started working with them deliberately to improve various other aspects of brain function, experimentally.  Very interesting and rewarding thing to do.

Took a ten year break, and then came back at it, with even more to show for the effort. :scaryshroom::thumbup:

If you can put the work into it while tripping you can accomplish pretty much anything, and psychedelics can model you what you're trying to accomplish out in ordinary reality, and then help make it real.  YMMV. :grin:

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