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Lets save the world!
    #14610426 - 06/14/11 04:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

How many of you out there believe that there is actually hope for the human race to become a peaceful and blissful species some day, living in peace and harmony with mother nature and the Earth, and in oneness with each other and all other living beings, at least until the sun goes out, or we collide with another galaxy?

Anyone?

If so, I ask for you to come forth with your most brilliant idea that you have kept to yourself, that is until this very moment in time.  Come on, spit it out!  What do you think needs to be done to create peace on this Earth, as well as create liberty, equality, and justice for all?!?


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14610483 - 06/14/11 05:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'll start this off by playing the devil's advocate here and asking, does anyone perhaps feel that the New World Order might actually be the best thing for our planet and the continuation of the human race?

While I do think that their agenda is ultimately "evil," a word I rarely ever use unless I mean it, I sometimes think of its desired outcome as being comparable to the present United States.  I mean America was founded by murdering all the natives and stealing their land, but I did not do this personally, NO ONE alive today actually participated in this event.  But look at what it created for future generations, freedom, equality, the ability to follow and live out your dreams...etc.

While I do not support massive depopulation or extermination of the human race in any way shape or form, I seriously think that population control in some more advanced form should be implemented.  Where perhaps a citizen is to "earn" the rights to bear children and add to the population of a nation by meeting certain prerequisites, or by serving a term in the peace corps (as there are no armies in the future I imagine.)

Anyone else with me on this?


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14610486 - 06/14/11 05:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

id love to think we all could get along. realistically i think there are to many intolerant assholes and bigots in the place for it to be possible.:sorry:

this opinion comes with age.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14610521 - 06/14/11 05:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Shrooomtastic said:
How many of you out there believe that there is actually hope for the human race to become a peaceful and blissful species some day, living in peace and harmony with mother nature and the Earth, and in oneness with each other and all other living beings, at least until the sun goes out, or we collide with another galaxy?

Anyone?

If so, I ask for you to come forth with your most brilliant idea that you have kept to yourself, that is until this very moment in time.  Come on, spit it out!  What do you think needs to be done to create peace on this Earth, as well as create liberty, equality, and justice for all?!?





As stated it's an impossibility.  You are suggesting heaven could be created in an animal species and the laws of nature circumvented. You would have to state this much differently to get a yes out of me.:satansmoking:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14610524 - 06/14/11 05:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I mean America was founded by murdering all the natives and stealing their land, but I did not do this personally, NO ONE alive today actually participated in this event.  But look at what it created for future generations, freedom, equality, the ability to follow and live out your dreams...etc.


What utter nonsense.  Freedom and equality in America?  Never happened.  This thread is bunk.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14610649 - 06/14/11 06:38 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean America was founded by murdering all the natives and stealing their land, but I did not do this personally, NO ONE alive today actually participated in this event.  But look at what it created for future generations, freedom, equality, the ability to follow and live out your dreams...etc.


What utter nonsense.  Freedom and equality in America?  Never happened.  This thread is bunk.




Yo Ice head on back to the Crib.  Let's Kick It there.  I can't hang with these Fascists no more.  Save the Whales while you are fucking at it.  Cultural marxism.  I fucking hate it.  Seriously.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #14610662 - 06/14/11 06:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Didn't Kirk and Spock save the whales?


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14611236 - 06/14/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Before humans can learn from their mistake, they have to do them and smash their faces to the ground. This will be done by severely damaging our ecosystem. Then it will show if we will survive this and for what price, if at all.
There are and had been more people than we believe who do not care for what you propose.
And for me, I believe we already rolled the bowl over the top. 5 past 12, so nobody can stop this anymore.
Dark times ahead.
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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14611338 - 06/14/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That's why I don't recycle or conserve.  Yipee! life is good cause it's so bad.:satansmoking:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14611786 - 06/14/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I still prevent myself not to make it worse (at least in my close surroundings), but evidence shows that we (will) loose huge masses in biodiversity and on the other hand the poles are melting, ha. Ice age will come again anyways.
Our offspring will have to struggle with this. Earth will become a hell of a place.
But just before this, there will be the (more) wars for the resources and such...
Ah humanity is a mess, we had a good chance so far...
I hope some will survive to tell the story :wink:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14611969 - 06/14/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Not my offspring. I wasn't that foolish.  And I hope none will survive to tell the story, due to my compassionate nature. :satansmoking:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14612043 - 06/14/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Not mine offspring either. Even I talked to my body-cells some days before and they told me to just kill myself if I don't get offspring soon, ha

So, if nobody's there to tell the story, the errors will be done over and over again...

edit: umpf, ya ok, 'error' is relative... but I'm not compassionate enough to let everyone experience bad stuff, even if it seems to be the only method as I recognize, sigh... oh dilemma :hissyfit:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14612270 - 06/14/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I mean I hope the whole human race goes extinct.  Just think, no more human suffering.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14612345 - 06/14/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean I hope the whole human race goes extinct.  Just think, no more human suffering.




I don't think you need to worry about humans eventually going extinct. The only question is how long will it take?


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: 4896744]
    #14612348 - 06/14/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Right, I'm all for tomorrow with a days warning so I can get some chocolate donuts.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14612650 - 06/14/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I would at least like to make it through what is generally considered the "peak" of your life.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14612705 - 06/14/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean I hope the whole human race goes extinct.  Just think, no more human suffering.



I can't help but I am angry about the missed opportunity to make (/keep) this place a paradise [OP]...


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14613083 - 06/14/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean America was founded by murdering all the natives and stealing their land, but I did not do this personally, NO ONE alive today actually participated in this event.  But look at what it created for future generations, freedom, equality, the ability to follow and live out your dreams...etc.


What utter nonsense.  Freedom and equality in America?  Never happened.  This thread is bunk.




Take a look at some of the third world nations of our planet, in fact, why don't you go there and make some comparisons?

We are a lot more free and equal in many ways in comparison even to India, for instance.  Americans are free to travel throughout the world and it is very easy for us to get visas whereas many citizens of third world countries cannot.  We can relocate and acquire dual citizenship in many different countries.  We have strict laws in places supporting equality in the workplace...etc.

Come on, don't be so cynical.  Or if you're going to be, why don't you back up your argument with some evidence or reasoning before you refute my ideas and say this thread is bunk.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14613106 - 06/14/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have to back up my statement that America isn't freedom and equality? Seriously?  :rofl2:

And I have been to third world countries.  Saying we are more free than some of them is not saying the same thing at all now is it?  You make my case for me with that statement.

Btw can you freely take your shrooms at police headquarters.  Is that freedom?  Do you really think that justice is dispensed equally in our legal system?

Yeah it's bunk all right. Had you made a more realistic statement...


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14613113 - 06/14/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

BlueCoyote said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
I mean I hope the whole human race goes extinct.  Just think, no more human suffering.



I can't help but I am angry about the missed opportunity to make (/keep) this place a paradise [OP]...





I'm no longer angry now that I understand that it was never a possibility.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14613168 - 06/14/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I have to back up my statement that America isn't freedom and equality? Seriously?  :rofl2:

And I have been to third world countries.  Saying we are more free than some of them is not saying the same thing at all now is it?  You make my case for me with that statement.

Btw can you freely take your shrooms at police headquarters.  Is that freedom?  Do you really think that justice is dispensed equally in our legal system?

Yeah it's bunk all right. Had you made a more realistic statement...




Are you kidding me?  What a horrible argument :facepalm:

What do you expect with your idea of "freedom?"  Its not ever going to be completely and totally free, anywhere on our planet.  In your idea of a free nation would you be free to murder someone if you wish?  Rob a bank cause you're low on money?

I think justice is dispensed more equally in our country than most, that's for sure.  Most cases that are opened in other countries never even make it to court, its just a waste of time to even start one.  Yet here, while it may take some time, most if not all cases go through the court system as it pursues the idea of justice this nation was founded on.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14613277 - 06/14/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Anyone?





Just me then? :sad:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14613302 - 06/14/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What's horrible is you making a claim that you in no way can back up.  Saying we are more free than some other country is in no way the same as saying this country has full freedom and equality.  Do you really mean to tell all of us that the American justice system treats everyone equally no matter what?  OJ Simpson comes to mind.  Think some poor black kid that nobody knew would have gotten that kind of a trial?

  Most cases that are opened in other countries never even make it to court, its just a waste of time to even start one.

Prove this blanket statement please. Try England or  other European countries.
And it very well could be there are countries with more equality and freedoms in various areas than us.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14613612 - 06/14/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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What's horrible is you making a claim that you in no way can back up.  Saying we are more free than some other country is in no way the same as saying this country has full freedom and equality.  Do you really mean to tell all of us that the American justice system treats everyone equally no matter what?  OJ Simpson comes to mind.  Think some poor black kid that nobody knew would have gotten that kind of a trial?

  Most cases that are opened in other countries never even make it to court, its just a waste of time to even start one.

Prove this blanket statement please. Try England or  other European countries.
And it very well could be there are countries with more equality and freedoms in various areas than us.




lol true, blanket statement.  What I meant was "most cases that are opened in other third world countries never even make it to court.  Such is the case in Nepal and India, and I know this from experience.

And again, I am not talking about "full" equality or "full" freedom, if such a thing even exists or could be defined.  I'm saying its all relative, that no country's system is perfect and probably never will be, and that America happens to not be just a little, but MUCH more equal and free than majority of the countries of our planet.  I'm not talking about England, France, or Australia...etc, but third world countries with very corrupt systems such as Ethiopia, Liberia, Nepal, Somalia, Yemen, Afghanistan...and so on and so forth.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14613842 - 06/14/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm saying its all relative, that no country's system is perfect and probably never will be, and that America happens to not be just a little, but MUCH more equal and free than majority of the countries of our planet.

I have no problems with this statement as imo it's realistic. :lol:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14613960 - 06/14/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm saying its all relative, that no country's system is perfect and probably never will be, and that America happens to not be just a little, but MUCH more equal and free than majority of the countries of our planet.

I have no problems with this statement as imo it's realistic. :lol:




super, we agree on something  :mrburns:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14614072 - 06/14/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

excellent


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14614107 - 06/14/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have a feeling that when/if we find an alien species to beat up, we will be alot more peacefull to eachother.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14614537 - 06/14/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean I hope the whole human race goes extinct.  Just think, no more human suffering.





... but, no more chocolate donuts. :confused:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Rahz]
    #14614552 - 06/14/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That's why I want a couple days notice.  I'll eat so fucking many that I'll be praying to die.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14614978 - 06/14/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What happened to a nice cucumber and tofu salad?


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14615937 - 06/15/11 06:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Try to stay away from soy.  Estorgenic effects not good for old men like us.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14616048 - 06/15/11 07:04 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14616733 - 06/15/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Do you prefer to wear a  Bro or the Manzier?


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14617264 - 06/15/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean I hope the whole human race goes extinct.  Just think, no more human suffering.



I can't help but I am angry about the missed opportunity to make (/keep) this place a paradise [OP]...





I'm no longer angry now that I understand that it was never a possibility.



Our ancestors would have been able to keep this place a habitable and nice environment. Instead they fucked up everything and now it's hard to loose those habits.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14617354 - 06/15/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Our ancestors raised children who didn't.  Don't think for  a minute nurture didn't have anything to do with the present situation.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14617470 - 06/15/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Even those generations before became more and more capable of a choice, and I talk only for about 100 years ago...
They were incapable because they always struggled with their own shit and lost the grand connections to nature out of sight.
I will not forgive them :hellfire:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14617710 - 06/15/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I don't either.  Neither do I ultimately blame them.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14618036 - 06/15/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yah, maybe the cockroaches will do better :thumbup:

The ancient song of the OP might hall through their caves.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14618043 - 06/15/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Our ancestors would have been able to keep this place a habitable and nice environment. Instead they fucked up everything and now it's hard to loose(sic) those habits.




Various primitive peoples around the world used (and some still do) poison as a fishing method. Very eco-friendly.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14618096 - 06/15/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

[(for the sic:)sorry, germane tongue slipped out. 'get rid of' I meant]

Yah, I've seen such documentations on tv, too. The poison is relatively harmless and doesn't damage the environment, as it's some plant extract. Those paralyzed fishes, the natives don't catch, will reawake, as far as I remember from it.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14618116 - 06/15/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What about the fires started to drive game on the plains?


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14618125 - 06/15/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What about the Hindus dropping nuclear weapons from their flying machines (vimana) 5000 years ago?


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14618171 - 06/15/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

forgot about that.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14618247 - 06/15/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

For the indians on the planes, I think the fire is not such a huge impact on environment, as it happens naturally too...(?)
I just got a hint on that topic here:
"Hunting ‑ The burning of large areas was useful to divert big game (deer, elk, bison) into small unburned areas for easier hunting and provide open prairies/meadows (rather than brush and tall trees) where animals (including ducks and geese) like to dine on fresh, new grass sprouts. Fire was also used to drive game into impoundments, narrow chutes, into rivers or lakes, or over cliffs where the animals could be killed easily. Some tribes used a surround or circle fire to force rabbits and game into small areas. The Seminoles even practiced hunting alligators with fire. Torches were used to spot deer and attract fish. Smoke was used to drive/dislodge raccoons and bears from hiding"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_use_of_fire

As for the hindus, yah, some do massive devastation also on intent to power too...


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14618394 - 06/15/11 04:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nothing weve done has a huge impact on the environment, what are you a bleeding heart liberal type.

If all the terrible things predicted had happened to any degree we'd have been gone long ago.

I say let's party.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14618416 - 06/15/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Nothing weve done has a huge impact on the environment, what are you a bleeding heart liberal type.

If all the terrible things predicted had happened to any degree we'd have been gone long ago.

I say let's party.




Foreal, I will fuck up the environment as much as I damn well please. That is as long as the possible repercussions wouldn't affect me too negatively. I think I'm all good for my limited window of time ahead.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: 4896744]
    #14618439 - 06/15/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Right, I have no children and any truly negative impact would  happen after I'm gone.  Not my problem.:shrug:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: 4896744]
    #14618558 - 06/15/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Nothing weve done has a huge impact on the environment, what are you a bleeding heart liberal type.

If all the terrible things predicted had happened to any degree we'd have been gone long ago.

I say let's party.




Foreal, I will fuck up the environment as much as I damn well please. That is as long as the possible repercussions wouldn't affect me too negatively. I think I'm all good for my limited window of time ahead.



Yah, that's the old thinking model.

As for Ice:
The old predictions couldn't happen because we didn't have the power to influence the environment much. The content of the predictions stays the same, now our influence rises to make it happen. The damage became acute.
It doesn't matter for what my heart is bleeding for. There can not be the one without the other (liberal/conservative) :heart:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14618595 - 06/15/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well I am old so I can think that way. :thumbup: 

Fuck the environment and the horse it rode in on.


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14619245 - 06/15/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Right, I have no children and any truly negative impact would  happen after I'm gone.  Not my problem.:shrug:




and what happens when you reincarnate back into the hell you didn't help prevent?

how do you know reincarnation is not the truth?


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14619277 - 06/15/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Then I'll reincarnate as the warlord king of hell and still not care.

could happen.:ass:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14619311 - 06/15/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Then I'll reincarnate as the warlord king of hell and still not care.

could happen.:ass:




you should change your location to "hellbound."  we all should thanks to people like yourself ice  :congrats:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Satyapriya]
    #14619324 - 06/15/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

My pleasure little guy.  You can be one of my slaves in hell.  Clean the shitters and such.:heart:


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Icelander]
    #14619392 - 06/15/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hey, quit giving away the good jobs!


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Re: Lets save the world! [Re: Rahz]
    #14619420 - 06/15/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have something special in mind for you.  I'm not going to waste real talent in a shitter.:satansmoking:


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