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LayinUp
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: total]
#14611746 - 06/14/11 12:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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this thread has a lot of good info, props to the OP
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total
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: TranscendingLife]
#14611760 - 06/14/11 12:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Blueflowers
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: TranscendingLife]
#14614241 - 06/14/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ah wait so now its better to have all holes sealed? After removing the ductape from 1 hole and stuffing the whole with polyfil (without removing the lid)last night the substrate has shown major myc growth. But early pinning would really be a let down! What should i do?
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: Blueflowers]
#14614423 - 06/14/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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reapply tape. kick back and relax.
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: total]
#14614891 - 06/14/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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total said:
Thanks TL... About time people started preaching this... For the past few years, i have been "hand mixing" my spawn into my bulk subs evenly... No more layering... I found that i got better/faster colonization by even mixing... Layering and putting a coir layer ontop w/o grains mixed in it, is a bad idea 
That's what I do.
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TranscendingLife
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: Blueflowers]
#14614925 - 06/14/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Blueflowers said: Ah wait so now its better to have all holes sealed? After removing the ductape from 1 hole and stuffing the whole with polyfil (without removing the lid)last night the substrate has shown major myc growth. But early pinning would really be a let down! What should i do? 
It depends on your lids. If you have lids that are 100% air tight, do Polyfil or EZ-felt or SFDs over the holes for GE.
If your lids aren't air tight, then just use the lid for GE.
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Blueflowers
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: TranscendingLife]
#14615032 - 06/14/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mmm they are pretty tight fitting lids ,i wouldn't say anything near loose but im not 100 percent on them being completely air tight . i might keep the polyfil in place due to seeing the myc do so well with it. or maybe even tape up half of the hole so to have minimal co2 escape.
Btw layering your spawn why would anyone do that? Mixing it up makes extremely fast colonization of the sub thus less chance of getting a contam.
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: Blueflowers]
#14616712 - 06/15/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Blueflowers said: Btw layering your spawn why would anyone do that? Mixing it up makes extremely fast colonization of the sub thus less chance of getting a contam.
There are many trusted cultivators, (including RogerRabbit, if my memory serves) that recommend that you do not allow grain to be exposed on the upper layer of a bulk. I've tried layering, layering with "frosting," mixing, and mixing with "frosting." All have worked, but I just mix well now.
EDIT: Typed 'misting' instead of mixing... wow.
Edited by Sillicybin (06/17/11 07:09 AM)
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Blueflowers
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: Sillicybin]
#14624240 - 06/16/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fair enough i guess its a better step to ensure no contams , although one could just mix the spawn with the sub and have a thin layer of extra coir to cover the exposed grain.
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penhed
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: Blueflowers]
#14624923 - 06/16/11 08:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I layer.....i am 100% sure that every grain is touching another.... the 1/2inch bulk between the layers and on top to cover the exposed... if you use poo.....fast colonization is not a issue.....my myc eats a bulk sub in about 5 days....allways into fruiting by 10-11 days...pick'n by day 17-18 at most... now you can choke off the tub..with stale air ....if you saw better growth with poly...use the poly....the myc makes co2 all the time.....the levels will go back up daily ....outside the conditions are what they are....pack them holes tight as you can do not open the lid for 5 - 6 days.....then burp it i just lift the lid...done. not try'n to give advice...just how i do it you will find a happy zone that works for you
these were made 6/2 - 6/4 they are fruiting NOW
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Blueflowers
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: penhed]
#14625479 - 06/16/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Kept the polyfil in still lotsa condensation in the tub . Tomorrow will be exactly 1 week since spawn was administered to bulk sub, myc is really starting to shoot off now ill keep you all updated
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TranscendingLife
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Re: GE during monotub colonization? All advice welcome! [Re: Blueflowers]
#14625559 - 06/16/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's always lots of condensation in colonizing bulk tubs.

That's after 4 days of colonization.
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