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WTF my lophs are shriveled!?!
    #14608771 - 06/13/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My  lophs have been outside for about a month now. They have been under a large tree and have not been getting any direct sun. I want them to flower again. So I did a dumbass thing. Today I moved them to a location where they got about 3 or 4 hours of direct sun. When I check on them by the end of the day today and my heart sank. They have shriveled up and parts of them have gone from green to whitish green. Please help! What do you guys think happened? Sunburn? They are not red at all. Could it be lack of water? I have not watered them in 3 and half weeks. What should I do? Should I water them now? Should I reduce the amount of light that they get? Take them inside? Put them back under the tree?

Sorry about the picture quality. All I have is a cell phone camera.



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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: overstand]
    #14609358 - 06/13/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have no idea, but did you mean 3-4 hours of sun, just once? Or 3-4 hours/day for a period of time?


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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: Doc_T]
    #14609546 - 06/13/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

3-4 hours just once today then shriveled :sad:


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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: overstand]
    #14609569 - 06/13/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'd say lack of water. A few hours in the sun isn't going to kill your plants, they live in the hot sunny desert, buddy.

Leave them be for a day or two and see what happens. If they are soft I'd give em a drink. Don't worry dude it'll be ok :thumbup:

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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: turtle_hermit]
    #14609717 - 06/13/11 11:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

When I introduced my baby Pedros to sun they lost all pigment, and started to turn pink. A couple days under a fluoro and out of direct light and they're dark green again. Could have just been a shock to them.


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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: fngbronco]
    #14609958 - 06/14/11 12:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

alas i am back. they shrivel. cultivated peyotes are very weird like that.

i have had mine uder shade cloth for years now. but when i water them with regular tap water they shrivel. believer it or not.

i say let them get acclimated and used to that direct light. it can only help the alkies manifest.

:shrug: holp that helps and :goodluck:

ps. they will be fine. trust me.


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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #14610118 - 06/14/11 02:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid: They really do love getting ignored, i know many people who have killed them by caring too much, anytime i get shrivling I just treat as normal and they always right themselves .... well except this one time but that was a defusa and they are pussies and yes i killed it and no i was not happy and yes i have lost the plot

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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: GGTBod]
    #14611277 - 06/14/11 10:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

mine are actually starting to recede to ground level right now.

its been hot as hell over here and thats really what they will do. they just await the rains.

tap water does little if any good for them. they just don't seem to grow when i water them.


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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #14613634 - 06/14/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah i agree, tap water is alright for me but my lopho's get bottled shit, or i distill tap water if i am skint

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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: GGTBod]
    #14613895 - 06/14/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the info guys. I gave them a good drink of water and put them back in the shade of a tree. Hopefully they will plump out again


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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: GGTBod]
    #14614827 - 06/14/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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yeah i agree, tap water is alright for me but my lopho's get bottled shit, or i distill tap water if i am skint




What about rain water?


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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: Doc_T]
    #14614877 - 06/14/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Suppose it will depend on local airbourne pollution, where i live i think the rain might be heavily contaminated with heavy metals due to the coal and steal industries around here

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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: overstand]
    #14615557 - 06/15/11 01:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

@overstand: You're lucky they only got a few hours of sun. Any more and you could of lost them.

I'm surprised no one has said that they've been sun burnt, the White colouration and shrivelled appearance are dead give aways that this is the case. I know because I've put unacclimatised cactus out in the hot Australian sun and watched them melt before my eyes, just for science of course.

Keep them in the shade until they heal. Withhold water until they recover to avoid secondary infections and then you can acclimate them slowly. One hour in full sun is enough to start with, from here you increase the hours over 2/3 weeks.

Lophs like semi shade with some direct light. If the light's too intense they'll let you know by turning red. White is bad news.


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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: karode13]
    #14617332 - 06/15/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

/\/\/\  exactly that (karode).  Your plants are sunburnt, they look fine as for water, thats not an issue.

also, like karode said, Lophophora are typically not sun loving plants.  they can handle a lto of sun, but in the wild they tend to be under plants.  those plants may die later one and they are stuck in the open, but i doubt many, if any, are able to start from seed in the open.  there is a paper in spanish about how L. diffusa are in a way semi-tropical plants.


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Re: WTF my lophs are shriveled!?! [Re: kadakuda]
    #16448842 - 06/28/12 12:37 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

This is very interesting stuff ive got a loph grafted to a peruvian which has started to turn reddish and scab and shrivel slightly...

I figured I sunburnt it and am now leaving it in the shade till I see some good changes. Only thing is it doesnt seem to be getting much better...

Im wondering if my watering schedules are wrong? Should I be watering this cactus once a week it its been grafted?

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