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OfflineLiquidSmoke
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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #14615700 - 06/15/11 02:51 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:



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"soy is the most mucus-forming plant food on the planet. The form of mucus it creates is called mucoid matter—not to be confused with mucus membrane. This mucus is a sticky, sludge-like substance that holds up the body’s flow and productivity. It accumulates and creates respiratory distress in asthmatics, creates common digestive problems like IBS (irritable bowel syndrome), and, by slowing down the body’s digestion and circulation systems, ultimately triggers weight gain and premature aging." natalie rose the raw food detox diet




this is a load of crap






The whole theory of "mucoid plaque" was originally developed by Richard Anderson, a naturpath and entreprenuer who was trying to sell his own line of supplements and colon cleansing products.

It's how they made money doing colon cleansing.  They stated that the oily substance which was being cleaned out was mucoid plaques.  Yet when actually placed under scopes it was seen as nothing more than loose fecal matter.


Anderson initially claimed to have scientific proof behind the existence and impact of mucoid plaques.  Yet when pressed further he admitted it was all anecdotal. 


In fact, there hasn't been a SINGLE MODERN STUDY that has EVER visually confirmed the existence of these mucoid plaques.  And the funny thing is, the pictures that these websites use as visual evidence, was identified as nothing more than incidental blood clots.

Gastroenterologists throughout the entire country, who see THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of colons scoped annually,  have NEVER EVER CONFIRMED a single visual existence of such mucoid plaques. 



And the best part about it all, is that these websites are all pseudo-scientific.  Amazingly convincing towards people who are completely biologically uneducated.  Yet for someone who just takes the time to learn the most basic concepts of digestive physiology and biochemistry,  it's rediculously easy to see how absurd these theories are.


Basically, it's a giant hoax without any real scientific backing at all.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: linkamathingy] * 1
    #14615719 - 06/15/11 03:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:


if you want a real substitute for milk to avoid GMO soy and incredibly hard to digest cow milk(takes a cow four stomachs to do it)






MILK IS NOT DIGESTED IN THE STOMACH YOU FUCKING IDIOT.



Okay, i'm just done with this thread.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #14615786 - 06/15/11 03:51 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Once again, this thread seems to revolve around the validity of a particular bit of 'knowledge', and the fact that several bits of 'knowledge' can seem to be conflicting. The concept of knowledge has been defined as 'justified true belief' (Chisholm, 1982). I like this definition, because it attempts to make explicit the implicit meaning of a difficult to define concept. The Chisholm definition captures three aspects of knowledge (or of the act of knowing): justification, truth and belief. Truth seems the central concept, and the most difficult one. It betrays a foundation in a positivist view on the world: there is one truth, and that truth can be captured and described. Justification in the context of truth can be interpreted as the possibility of finding objective support for the truth of a particular bit of information. Finally, the term 'belief' says something about the person who holds the knowledge: (s)he not only possesses it, but the knowledge possesses the person: it is a belief that has become part of the overall world view of the person.

As a consequence of this definition, which appears to hold quite well in practice, a positivist will generally argue that out of two contrary bits of knowledge, only one can be true. After all, there is only one, singular truth, and if two bits of information suggest the existence of two different truths, then only one bit of information can be actually true (and can therefore become knowledge), while the other will automatically become misinformation. However, I think that the inclusion of 'truth' in a definition of knowledge opens the way for constructivists or even anti-positivists to allow conflicting bits of information to become knowledge: after all, they will argue that there is no single, describable truth. And if truth becomes an empty concept, any interpretation or representation could be described as 'true'; it would be the same as calling a both a true statement and a false one 'besognag' (besognag being an undefined, meaningless adjective).

Now, what does this philosophical rambling have to do with this topic? linkamathingy has indicated a couple of times that he relies on knowledge that is obtained from sources that are refuted by his opponents. Indeed, those opponents, LiquidSmoke being perhaps the most fierce, argues that it is not knowledge at all; his view appears to be that linkamathingy's knowledge may be a belief, and it may be to some extent justifiable by him, but it certainly isn't true. Which leads me to believe that LiquidSmoke is possibly a positivist in the end: at least when it comes to physiology and metabolism, there is one single truth, and linkamathingy's 'knowledge' is at odds with that truth. Note that logical positivism still seems the de facto standard for people in the exact sciences; I spend a lot of time around such people, and constructivists are very few and far between in that population.

Linkamathingy seems to hold a different view, and argues that the knowledge imparted by formal educational systems is actually 'misinformation'. That is an interesting statement, as it still leaves the possibility that linkamathingy is also a positivist, but one with a different definition (or belief) of what the nature of truth is. Alternatively, he is a constructivist, accepting that the truth as defended by LiquidSmoke and Pris may be as much true as his own beliefs, but certainly not more true than that.

In sum, I come to the following, tentative conclusion: LiquidSmoke, and I suspect Pris as well, are ultimately logical positivists when it comes to physiology. Regarding linkamathingy, there seem to be two possibilities.
1. he's a positivist, but believes in a different truth than Pris and LiquidSmoke. In that case, I wish him the best of luck defending his statements. The odds seem to be against him, but there is (hypothetical) a possibility that he somehow manages to add something to 'the truth'. The biggest chance though is that the other positivists grow tired of linkamathingy and people get frustrated on both sides.
2. he's a constructivist, and ultimately agrees that LiquidSmoke's and Pris' views are as much true as his own, and both sets of information can be knowledge. In that case, linkamathingy may 'agree to disagree' (and not as an end-all, but in a sincere and heartfelt way), while LiquidSmoke and Pris are in my opinion likely to stick with the knowledge base that fits with their view of 'the truth'.

So either you guys have fundamentally different belief systems (positivist vs. constructivist), or one of both camps is just being plain stupid (both positivists, and therefore one camp is dead wrong). You decide.

In relation to the actual content of the topic:
- Milk and most milk products contain lactose. A large portion of the world population is mildly to severely lactose-intolerant: they are unable to fully digest lactose.
- Soy and nut milk do not contain lactose and are not milk at all, although they can be a whitish, water-based suspension.
- I have never experienced any discomfort as a result of consuming (vast quantities) of mucus-containing foodstuffs, such as okra, coconut or soy. I have also never heard of any plausible mechanism that would produce any sort of significant problems in relation to mucus-containing foodstuffs.
- Humans are one of the species that are capable of living off just about the most diverse collection of food stuffs imaginable.
- Every human is free to decide what (s)he eats.
- Combining the statements above, the logical conclusion is that diet is a personal choice, that most likely there is no single, best diet to fit all people, and that therefore universal statements regarding the detrimental health effects of foodstuffs that have been consumed without ill effects for thousands of years are rather implausible.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: linkamathingy] * 1
    #14616015 - 06/15/11 06:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
cow milk is designed to take a baby cow and make it gain weight. apparently it coagulates in the first stomach compartment, and humans only have the one compartment before intestines, thanks for the knowledge.

nut butter that i have found usually has stuff i can't identify in it. that was more aimed toward the soy milk i guess. cows don't drink cow milk, lol. never huh?



It's true, cows do not drink cow milk. Cow referring to the fully grown adult of the bovine. Calves or a calf drink cow milk, but the anatomy of their stomach is has evolved to process plant material.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: daussaulit]
    #14617792 - 06/15/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: orison]
    #14618276 - 06/15/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Oh man, I knew this was gonna be a science VS hippies thread when I clicked it.

GO TEAM SCIENCE.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14618610 - 06/15/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

When I saw the thread title I expected I had to move it to the Sexuality forum.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14618800 - 06/15/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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LiquidSmoke said:
Quote:

linkamathingy said:


if you want a real substitute for milk to avoid GMO soy and incredibly hard to digest cow milk(takes a cow four stomachs to do it)






MILK IS NOT DIGESTED IN THE STOMACH YOU FUCKING IDIOT.



Okay, i'm just done with this thread.




the stomach isn't part of the digestive system! i'm pissed off! flame much?

thanks for the info about mucoid plaque. i was under the impression that mucus was used in the body to suspend things that are hard to digest while digested. idk about plaque though. i should have just found a better original citation so the flames about selling a product wouldn't be as bad.

that was a very thought provoking post koraks. thank you very much. not all knowledge attained through formal education is misinformation, i didn't mean to imply that.

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guywiththegun said:
Oh man, I knew this was gonna be a science VS hippies thread when I clicked it.

GO TEAM SCIENCE.




black and white world you live in.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: linkamathingy] * 1
    #14619266 - 06/15/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
caucasus mountains there is a culture that drinks kefir only. use the search engine, me lazy




after searching for an hour I've turned up nothing so I have no reason to believe this band of people even exists, since you've heard of them surely it would be easier for you to locate them since you have read about them


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nice rebuttal to my citation of a professional diet book: "this is a load of crap"




yeah, a professional diet book writer wrote it, matalia rose graduated
from new york university with a BA in Art and Culture, not a BS and claims
to be a clinical nutritionist which requires a BS degree as well as a lot
of other crap, she studied nutrition at the Natural Healing institute of
Naturopathy in San Diego, a massage school that gives a certificate of
completion and offers home study programs... what's scarry is that she's
not even a member of the American Association of Nutritional Consultants
so she cant  display the C.N.C after her name because she didnt want the
take home test at a cost of $250 with a $60 annual membership fee or maybe
she couldnt afford to take the entire year to finish that 90 page test to
be awarded the Certified Nutritional Consultant title, not to be confused
with the actual degree of Certified Clinical Nutritionist which is a state
licensed medical practitioner

http://www.naturalhealinginst.com/residential/ccn.html
the CCN program they have requires a mere 200 classroom hours, to be a
licensed CCN, the real deal, in addition to the BS in nutrition at an
credited university they need a post graduate course in clinical nutrition
and biochemistry and 900 clinical hours in residency before they're even
allowed to take the exam

Natalia Rose bought a certificate of completion from some school of witch
doctory  with a CN at the end of her name... simply put, she's a fraud
selling crackpot diet plans and stuff to make you poop rubber ropes


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: koraks] * 1
    #14619360 - 06/15/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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koraks said:
In sum, I come to the following, tentative conclusion: LiquidSmoke, and I suspect Pris as well, are ultimately logical positivists when it comes to physiology.





actually LiquidSmoke is a real life Doctard, there have been many lulzy
discussions involving his fingers being in the rectums of old men


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A large portion of the world population is mildly to severely lactose-intolerant: they are unable to fully digest lactose.




it varies by race apparently, native americans are claimed to all be lactose intolerant, italians around 70% are while europeans are around
4-6% lactose intolerant



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most likely there is no single, best diet to fit all people




it's also best to look into whom ever is pushing a diet plan claiming it
to be the most healthy detoxification diet system in the world... your
body is designed to shed those 'toxins' on it's own, if it's not doing so
then there's an underlying medical issue and you should be seeing a doctor
not a website or a book on eating raw foods


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14620103 - 06/15/11 10:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
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guywiththegun said:
Oh man, I knew this was gonna be a science VS hippies thread when I clicked it.

GO TEAM SCIENCE.




black and white world you live in.




It's not about black and white, it's about correct and incorrect. Science attempts to rule out the incorrect and give us an idea what IS correct.
Pseudoscience attempts to bullshit us and sell us a product or lifestyle that could very well be unhealthy. I know which one I'd rather put my money on.

There's no black and white in science. There's a process of endless revision of what is known and what isn't known. In fact, you could argue that science IS that process. The figures and facts you're claiming don't fit into that process and aren't born from it, and therefore have no validity. Don't take it personal, lots of people fall for pseudoscience because it uses lots of big words and concepts that seem like they make perfect sense, but the sad truth is it hasn't gone through the process of experimentation and revision that real science has, and therefore is nothing more than the assumption that something is correct for no other reason than someone said it was.

Check out "Demon Haunted World" by Carl Sagan. It really opened my eyes as to the nature of the scientific method. And Sagan is just an amazing writer in general.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14621050 - 06/16/11 05:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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stuff to make you poop rubber ropes




You make it sound hawt :naughty:


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14621343 - 06/16/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:it varies by race apparently, native americans are claimed to all be lactose intolerant, italians around 70% are while europeans are around 4-6% lactose intolerant



It does vary by race. Back in the day, like a few thousand years ago, the only time lactose was ever consumed in food was when infants were feeding on human milk. The need to break down lactose was only really needed for the first few years in life. With the invention of animal husbandry and agriculture, lactose in the diet became more common for some cultures, especially if they consumed milk and milk products after infancy. The reason why the lactose intolerance has changed by race, but more importantly culture, is due to the domestication of animals. Europeans have evolved over hundreds of years to continue to produce lactose throughout their lives, while Native Americans, Asians, Africans did not raise livestock to consume their milk. The percentage of lactose intolerance across the board has been dropping due the evolution of humans to adapt to the modern widespread consumption of milk products past the years of infancy.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: guywiththegun]
    #14621586 - 06/16/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

http://dprogram.net/2011/05/21/experts-speak-out-lynn-margulis-phd-–-scientist/

there's an awesome view of science right there. i meant black and white as in you boiled down complex people into an assertion that they can only be either scientists or hippies. degrading to say the least. thanks for the book recommendations.

pris:
that woman was selling nothing other than a book and the way she eats herself, apparently, and helps clients. there was no poop rope.

i fail to see how lack of degree or certification negates a persons techniques. that amounts to if they haven't done a specific thing, they must be entirely fraudulent. how about all the eastern medicine that requires no degree but has helped people for thousands of years? the establishment doesn't approve, must not be valid in any way? objectivity is not all there is in the search for knowledge. subjectivity arises from objectivity. they are both equally important.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14621600 - 06/16/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
it's also best to look into whom ever is pushing a diet plan claiming it
to be the most healthy detoxification diet system in the world... your
body is designed to shed those 'toxins' on it's own, if it's not doing so
then there's an underlying medical issue and you should be seeing a doctor
not a website or a book on eating raw foods




it can shed toxins on it's own. but eating poorly creates a backlog where your body is always trying to catch up with the latest combination of food you have input, focusing less on more important healing.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: linkamathingy]
    #14621618 - 06/16/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Then the remedy is eating right, and not a magic fix, no?

Its actually true, my overall wellbeing greatly improved when I started eating proper foods.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: Asante]
    #14621677 - 06/16/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

exactly, no magic fixes. i too feel way better with eating with some sort of knowledge, rather than just when hungry like before.

i dont know what magic works without trying to do things for yourself as well. that'd be like using a sigil to be healthy without actually trying to be healthy, or using a sigil to win the lottery without buying a lotto ticket.

magic is pretty strange, looks impossible to those working in the newtonian paradigm.

i wish these wouldn't embed automatically. makes posts weird. they're pretty awesome though. you might want to watch them in the order i have posted them.

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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: linkamathingy] * 2
    #14621957 - 06/16/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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linkamathingy said:
Quote:

LiquidSmoke said:
Quote:

linkamathingy said:


if you want a real substitute for milk to avoid GMO soy and incredibly hard to digest cow milk(takes a cow four stomachs to do it)






MILK IS NOT DIGESTED IN THE STOMACH YOU FUCKING IDIOT.



Okay, i'm just done with this thread.




the stomach isn't part of the digestive system! i'm pissed off! flame much?

thanks for the info about mucoid plaque. i was under the impression that mucus was used in the body to suspend things that are hard to digest while digested. idk about plaque though. i should have just found a better original citation so the flames about selling a product wouldn't be as bad.





Well it's nice to know you atleast did a quick wikipedia search on mucus in digestion before returning to this thread.


But the whole point you're getting flamed is because you don't know jack shit about how digestion works in the body.  Yet you're claiming that these fucking retarded theories which were disproven decades ago are the reasons people should be following a dietary recommendation that you just happened to stumble upon on the internet.


The stomach is obviously part of the digestive system.  But what you initially said was how it takes 4 stomachs for a cow to digest milk.

Which is absolutely fucking ignorant, and shows just how uneducated you are.




And the WORST part about it is how you're still pridefully trying to justify your total lack of knowledge about the most basic concepts of science. 

Being taught by a teacher is generally a far more effective way of learning things than just going off reading on your own.  Because most people are too fucking lazy to learn things on their own.  Case in point:  you.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #14622081 - 06/16/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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LiquidSmoke said:
Quote:

linkamathingy said:
Quote:

LiquidSmoke said:
Quote:

linkamathingy said:


if you want a real substitute for milk to avoid GMO soy and incredibly hard to digest cow milk(takes a cow four stomachs to do it)






MILK IS NOT DIGESTED IN THE STOMACH YOU FUCKING IDIOT.



Okay, i'm just done with this thread.




the stomach isn't part of the digestive system! i'm pissed off! flame much?

thanks for the info about mucoid plaque. i was under the impression that mucus was used in the body to suspend things that are hard to digest while digested. idk about plaque though. i should have just found a better original citation so the flames about selling a product wouldn't be as bad.





Well it's nice to know you atleast did a quick wikipedia search on mucus in digestion before returning to this thread.


But the whole point you're getting flamed is because you don't know jack shit about how digestion works in the body.  Yet you're claiming that these fucking retarded theories which were disproven decades ago are the reasons people should be following a dietary recommendation that you just happened to stumble upon on the internet.


The stomach is obviously part of the digestive system.  But what you initially said was how it takes 4 stomachs for a cow to digest milk.

Which is absolutely fucking ignorant, and shows just how uneducated you are.




And the WORST part about it is how you're still pridefully trying to justify your total lack of knowledge about the most basic concepts of science. 

Being taught by a teacher is generally a far more effective way of learning things than just going off reading on your own.  Because most people are too fucking lazy to learn things on their own.  Case in point:  you.




:lolsy: you are making blind assertions and flaming.


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Re: Drink Nut Milk Instead of SoyMilk, you'll be healthier [Re: linkamathingy] * 2
    #14622137 - 06/16/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Speaking of blind assertions, milk being digested in the stomach.

And mucoid plaques existing based on links found on a naturopath's own website.


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