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Nature Boy said:
Thoughts??? Yes.  You went about it all wrong.  As already has been pointed out, your oral DMT dosage was too low - you need a MINIMUM of 80mg orally.  Also, there's a reason DMT freebase burns the tongue...its freeBASE. Duh.
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Noitartst said:
Incidentally...they say it takes ten grams of powered MHRB for a strong dose of potency, but if DMT's 0.5% of the bark weight, that would mean that you're chugging a whole bunch of tannins and stff for 50 mgs, but it's still more potent than DMT in a purified form?

Something curious is going on, here.  It may not be orally active alone, but it sounds like something in the bark's still making the DMT more potent than just by its lonesome.

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That makes sense; all the more reason to saltify, then.

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If freebase durns the mouth, then en how much more the shnozz?

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Well, sometimes it takes a while with the obvious to become apparent.  Given a personal encounter, I now truly see why it's called "freebase."  Names don't always reflect meaning, but now I clearly see that in this case it does.

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Noitartst said:
If freebase durns the mouth, then en how much more the shnozz?

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Put down the bottle and retype that.

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Well, sometimes it takes a while with the obvious to become apparent.  Given a personal encounter, I now truly see why it's called "freebase."  Names don't always reflect meaning, but now I clearly see that in this case it does.

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Well, words used in chemistry, physics, math, botany etcetera are very, VERY specific and not randomly assigned.  I always felt that was self-evident, but I can see how you might not get that straight-off if you're not a chemist or into science.

In this instance, the term "freebase" is quite an accurate and apt description of the actual chemical property of the extracted compound, as your tongue accurately detected.

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Noitartst said:
My tongue's pretty sharp, but it needs instruction, often through experience, which befits someone who could talk at sixteen months, but got sent to a therapist because no one understood. 

Learning, ever learning, and not the appearance (AKA Sarah Palin's glasses) is the key point, and thanks for furthering mine.

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Nature Boy said:
Next time suspend your DMT in water, not lemon juice.  This is NOT mushrooms you're dealing with here, its DMT freebase, there's no "potentiating" of DMT with lemon tek.  In fact, it no doubt hurt rather than enhanced things.  (Jeez...where do people GET these ideas????)    Of all the things you did, this was the worst!!!

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Noitartst said:
That makes sense; all the more reason to saltify, then, but even so, if fifty mgs of DMT salt is considered a strong dose in ayahuasca, that still does not explain why it's an amount on the weak side on its lonesome, does it?  It seems a partial answer, but not the whole.

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Pharmahuasca dosages vary IMMENSELY person to person. No one is quite sure why.... Some people get unbelievable effects from 30mg of fumarate salt, while others cannot get noticeable effects from up to 100mg salt or freebase.

It's a mystery