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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Patlal]
    #14604752 - 06/13/11 06:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If it wasn't for that 'we can't surpass the speed of light' theory, we could go see ourselves

Fuck you Einstein




LOL Einstein expected his theories to be re-written or thrown out sooner or later.  He was a REAL scientist and admitted this.  I doubt he ever expected some modern day scientists to take everything he says as gospel unquestioned truth. 

"Faster than speed of light travel is impossible" I hear so called "scientists" saying this today. 

Einstein himself disagrees.  He expected that theories to be surpassed in the future because he understands the scientific method and was not ignorant.  Unfortunately a lot of modern day self-proclaimed scientists fail to understand what science actually is.  A tool for figuring out likelyness.  Theres no abolutes, no impossibles and no theory that might be over turned eventually.

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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Shroomism]
    #14604768 - 06/13/11 06:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The meaning of the universe is to continually evolve over time through experience, otherwise it wouldn't exist.





that's a process, not a meaning

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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14605142 - 06/13/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

at the end of almost every period of the earths history their has been mass extintion. Any planet that came into existence and developed simarily to earth, and had been lucky enough to not have any mass extintions (stable techtonics/few asteriods around or whatever), could possibly host more advanced lifeforms due to having more time to evolve.
However there are so many variables its impossible to prove. We could be the most or least advanced( or in between).

Personally when I look at the human race I see a relatively primative race. Weve only in the last 100years developed technology as we know it, theres so much more out there.

However if you asked me I would say we are not the most advanced, its a more optomistic veiw anyway imo.

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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: spazmodog]
    #14605183 - 06/13/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)



bermuda triangle hmmm?


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Envix]
    #14605204 - 06/13/11 09:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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maybe all other stars in the universe are reflections of our own star

the universe as a cosmic hall of mirrors of sorts



Mhmm. It has been observed that two images of the same star can occur on two different parts of the sky. If various beams of light all took different paths, most of them would reach their destination at different times.


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Devlish2]
    #14605218 - 06/13/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Two words, astronomy and astrophysics. Look them up.



Some of what we do know becomes inaccurate when we don't know what types of filters occur on the large scale.


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Envix]
    #14605227 - 06/13/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Giant mirr
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oh youve been out that far and checkd it out thats good to know




Yes, we have been. With our eyeballs.


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Moo456]
    #14605238 - 06/13/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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maybe all other stars in the universe are reflections of our own star

the universe as a cosmic hall of mirrors of sorts



Mhmm. It has been observed that two images of the same star can occur on two different parts of the sky. If various beams of light all took different paths, most of them would reach their destination at different times.



AFAIK, thats becuase the light travels throught the spacetime warped by massive objects. not cosmic reptilian mirrors.


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Envix]
    #14605241 - 06/13/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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the universe doesn't revolve it intertwines

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Two words, astronomy and astrophysics. Look them up.



quantumphysics. look that up

also luxons and the higgs field




Astronomy and Astrophysics are fields that are much less speculative than Quantum-Anything, and Quantum theories would not validate your speculation regardless.


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: blujay]
    #14605249 - 06/13/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

With our eyeballs? That's about as timely and accurate as when settlers went back and forth by ship giving updates to the king.


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
    #14605248 - 06/13/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm starting to believe that it is very likely that artificial intelligence dominates the universe. That intelligent species are likely to create an artificial intelligence that is superior to their own which comes to dominate them or merge with them or whatever it would do.


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: nice1]
    #14605262 - 06/13/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If it wasn't for that 'we can't surpass the speed of light' theory, we could go see ourselves

Fuck you Einstein




Not quite true, the speed of light is a reflexive speed limit, meaning you can travel infinitely faster than it but in that case it becomes the minimum extreme. Kind of like "once you go black you don't go back" but with physics :lol:

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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #14605277 - 06/13/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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AFAIK, thats becuase the light travels throught the spacetime warped by massive objects. not cosmic reptilian mirrors.




You don't have to mock it by comparing it to something more mystical. There's just a strong possibility that a straight lines aren't straight lines when they go far enough. I'm not saying anything for sure, except that we don't truly know the rules, because electromagnetic spectrum is not a sufficient tool for this.


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Moo456]
    #14605285 - 06/13/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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AFAIK, thats becuase the light travels throught the spacetime warped by massive objects. not cosmic reptilian mirrors.



You don't have to mock it by comparing it to something more mystical. There's just a strong possibility that a straight lines aren't straight lines when they go far enough. I'm not saying anything for sure, except that we don't truly know the rules, because electromagnetic spectrum is not a sufficient tool for this.





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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Vsnares.Zappa]
    #14605292 - 06/13/11 10:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Lol Vsnares I started to call you Zappa cause its easier but then I remembered Zappa_is_God and that I specifically don't like the way he posts/the content he posts and decided to not dishonor you so.

Care to explain that photo?  I happen to agree with Greenthumb.  I don't understand how humans figure that they can measure the length of time till the beginning of the Universe.


Really it seems like a bunch of bullshit to me, that a scientist would stand there and claim to *know* When the UNIVERSE BEGAN lol.

But maybe you measure light waves or something I don't know; I just don't see how its possible and would love an explanation.





It explains why the universe had a beginning and why it is estimate to be 13 billion years.Basicallly, the universe was a very hot place a long long time ago,no life forms could of existed.Life can only appeared after it has expanded enough(the main consequence is the cooling off of the universe)
Also, the relations within matter itself were not complex enough.

Stars are burning tons of helium and coverting it into another molecules (nothing disappears, everything changes constantly, remember)
Since the beginning, stars have changed matter to the point where it can be conscient of itself.  :thousandisland:

(me no like ZappaisGod  :stalin:  )




Okay, I'm in agreement with your little chart. It's how I've always imagined it must be. Anyway, here's a fun hypothetical: From what we know about physics and stuff, would it be possible for a race of intelligent life to get so organized and just happen to have the right access to the right resources to actually manage to escape the collapsing universe and subsequent release of energy? Like by managing to escape velocity the universe itself on a planet carefully designed to be as close to perfectly efficient as possible? Or probably more practically, to simply store their consciousness somehow inanimate and then wake the thing back up when there's a universe to hang out in again? In light of the fact that the universe is rearranging itself constantly, could it be possible for the inanimate matter to actually store a consciousness regardless of that?

Furthermore, does it take all the matter in the universe to bang, or is it just a matter of creating enough of a singularity- meaning each time it happens the universe propels some of it's matter away creating a smaller and smaller universe until there's an unimaginably long period of darkness because there isn't enough matter left to kick the system in gear again? What's the physical mechanism behind a "big bang"?


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #14605315 - 06/13/11 10:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Moo456]
    #14605325 - 06/13/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

@ OP. It's astronomically absurd that earth could have the most advanced lifeforms in the universe. Given 14 billion years  there's a LOT of time for species to develop and refine what they are. We arose in less than 14 million I do believe. The math stands, we are cosmic peons of no awesome legacy.

At least 100 - 400 billion stars in the milky way alone. We orbit only 1 or them.

It's estimated that there are 500 billion galaxies in the known universe.

400,000,000,000      X      500,000,000,000          ...of which, we are only 1.


You do the math...


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Humility]
    #14605331 - 06/13/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Humility we fully use our brains :tongue2:

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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: Beanhead]
    #14605347 - 06/13/11 10:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't see why it's so unlikely that Earth is the most advanced planet in the universe. It could be. It is for all we know. Yes, the universe is huge, but the chance of life, let alone intelligent life, is probably smaller than the universe is large.


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Re: Are We The Most Advanced Planet In The Universe? [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #14605359 - 06/13/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

Bare in mind this doesn't even apply to the whole universe!  Its just for our galaxy.

In terms of likelyness there should be races thousands, if not millions of years more advanced than us existing in the entire universe.


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It is for all we know.




For all YOU know maybe.  Don't include ME or Shroomism :wink: in your we.

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