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Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta)
    #14604500 - 06/13/11 03:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hi everyone,
I am investigating feasibility of morchella esculenta cultivation indoors and have found your amazing forum. Having searched it on the surface, I located primary morel cultivation thread (as well as secondary one), and number of online supplementary resources (The Farm and The Great Morel)

The Mills Lab has been running the experimental production facility, however it has been closed due to lack of funding, and so I am interested in researching how people on these forums managed to grow their black or while morel from either sclerotum or spores, using  patented method or their own unique approach.

One last thing I wanted to check is if there are any australian people on these forums that possess morel culture and are willing to trade it.

Thanks!


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: dprpg]
    #14604511 - 06/13/11 03:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

hello and welcome and :goodluck:


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: shroomzi8]
    #14604651 - 06/13/11 05:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hi shroomzi8 and thanks!


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: dprpg]
    #14604657 - 06/13/11 05:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

sorry i cant offer you any wonderful morel info and help, ive never grown edibles. :sorry::dancer::sunny:


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: shroomzi8]
    #14610363 - 06/14/11 03:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

For those who have some useful info, please PM and we will be able to negotiate something.


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: dprpg]
    #14614047 - 06/14/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Iam underway of the white morel grow. Getting ready to spawn to trays this weekend. check out my journal


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: mister]
    #14615306 - 06/15/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Great news, mister, I'll be sure to add it to favourites, thanks!


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: dprpg]
    #14615313 - 06/15/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

why indoor? why don't u make an outdoor patch?


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: broken]
    #14618697 - 06/15/11 05:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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why indoor? why don't u make an outdoor patch?



Why not. Outdoors you only can get fruits in the spring. Indoors opens that up to year round if youcan get them to fruit. And with all outdoor patches, there are others waiting to get into them... human and slug alike.


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: mister]
    #14621187 - 06/16/11 06:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Indoors is best, as mister pointed out, because its independent of season, thereby resulting in larger quantities.


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: dprpg]
    #14623361 - 06/16/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Indoors is best, as mister pointed out, because its independent of season, thereby resulting in larger quantities.



IF you can get them to fruit. That is the tricky part.


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: mister]
    #14624948 - 06/16/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Heheh, yeah, that's the most cumbersome part, especially for mycorrhizal mushrooms. Any luck so far, mister?


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: mister]
    #14627165 - 06/17/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Indoors is best, as mister pointed out, because its independent of season, thereby resulting in larger quantities.



IF you can get them to fruit. That is the tricky part.






that's the point i was driving at!


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: dprpg]
    #14631126 - 06/17/11 11:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Heheh, yeah, that's the most cumbersome part, especially for mycorrhizal mushrooms. Any luck so far, mister?




Use a species that isn't mycorrhizal. :wink:


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #14636611 - 06/19/11 07:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Heheh, yeah, that's the most cumbersome part, especially for mycorrhizal mushrooms. Any luck so far, mister?




Use a species that isn't mycorrhizal. :wink:




I have planted some outdoors under a maple. This is conrary to where morels are supposed to grow. From what I have been reading on new information is that yes morels will share a relationship with plants, but it is not needed. Wiki has noted as well as many texts that morels are being more thought of as read here, quote from wiki,

"Classification
Taxonomy

The fruit bodies of the Morchella are highly polymorphic in appearance, exhibiting variations in shape, color and size; this has contributed to uncertainties regarding taxonomy.[1] Discriminating between the various species is complicated by uncertainty regarding which species are truly biologically distinct. Some authors suggest that the genus only contains as few as 3 to 6 species,[2][3] while others place up to 50 species in the genus.[4][5] Mushroom hunters refer to them by their color (e.g., gray, yellow, black) as the species are very similar in appearance and vary considerably within species and age of individual. The best known morels are the "yellow morel" or "common morel" (M. esculenta); the "white morel" (M. deliciosa); and the "black morel" (M. elata). Other species of true morels include M. conica, M. vulgaris, and the half-free morel (M. semilibera).

Phylogeny
  Early phylogenetic analyses supported the hypothesis that the genus comprises only a few species with considerable phenotypic variation.[6][7] More recent DNA work has suggested more than a dozen distinct groups of morels in North America.[8] An extensive DNA study showed three discrete clades, or genetic groups, consisting of Morchella rufobrunnea, the yellow morels (M. esculenta and others), and the black morels (M. elata and others). Within the yellow and black clades, there are dozens of individual species, most endemic to individual continents or regions.[9] This species-rich view is supported by studies in Western Europe[10], Turkey[11], Israel[12], and the Himalayas[13].

Morchella tomentosa, a fire-associated species described from western North America, commonly known as the "gray morel", may also deserve its own clade based on DNA evidence. M. tomentosa is easily identified by its post-fire occurrence, fine hairs on the surface of young fruiting bodies, and unique sclerotia-like underground parts.[14][15][16]

Habitat and ecology
Yellow morels in West Virginia, USA[edit] Habitats favorable to fruition Morchella species appear to have either symbiotic mycorrhizal relationships or act as saprotrophs.[17][14] Yellow morels (Morchella esculenta) are more commonly found under deciduous trees rather than conifers, and black morels (Morchella elata) can be found in deciduous forests, oak and poplar.[18] Deciduous trees commonly associated with morels in the northern hemisphere include ash, sycamore, tulip tree, dead and dying elms, cottonwoods and old apple trees (remnants of orchards). The fruiting of yellow morels in Missouri, USA, was found to correlate with warm weather, precipitation, and tree species, and most usually in the springtime (April-May time frame).[19]

Morels in western North America are often found in coniferous forests, including trees in the genera Pinus, Abies, Larix, and Pseudotsuga, as well as in cottonwood riparian forests,".


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: mister]
    #14636633 - 06/19/11 07:27 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Also the Morchella esculenta is the white morel. Morchella elata is the black morel.


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Re: Black Morel cultivation (Morchella esculenta) [Re: mister]
    #14657046 - 06/22/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Going to start growing black morel this weekend using dried mushroom' spores, there's a nice guide somewhere around the forum.


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