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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14601660 - 06/12/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Please point out where I wrote that. Interpretation/meaning is at the macro level. Chemical interactions at the micro level do NOT change. This is really not too hard to grasp.




So you don't think there is interpretation/meaning with the experience of a trip?


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #14601676 - 06/12/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Please point out where I wrote that.


It seems to be implied by your OP:

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Interestingly, the trip was not qualitatively different than when I took shrooms to gain spiritual insight.




You're saying here that one who has the mindset of getting fucked up will not have a qualitatively different trip than one who has the mindset of gaining spiritual insight..this is in direct contradiction to what is known today about how a person's mindset effects the quality of their psychedelic trips.


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: Poid]
    #14601699 - 06/12/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If all other conditions are the same except for telling yourself the message "I am fo' sho gonna get fucked up!" or "I will learn The Secrets of the Ages", I contend the difference will be negligible.


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14601723 - 06/12/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Is this contention based on any evidence? A state of mind is more than a mere one-sentence-long message..if one is dedicated to maintaining a certain state of mind throughout the duration of a psychedelic trip, it will definitely have a significant effect.


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14601724 - 06/12/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If all other conditions are the same except for telling yourself the message "I am fo' sho gonna get fucked up!" or "I will learn The Secrets of the Ages", I contend the difference will be negligible.




Congratulations, you realized that one spoken sentence is likely to have little effect on a trip. :thumbup:


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: Poid]
    #14601727 - 06/12/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

How many shroomers here that tell everyone they are more spiritual actually demonstrate such? Case closed! :razz:


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: 4896744]
    #14601741 - 06/12/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If all other conditions are the same except for telling yourself the message "I am fo' sho gonna get fucked up!" or "I will learn The Secrets of the Ages", I contend the difference will be negligible.




Congratulations, you realized that one spoken sentence is likely to have little effect on a trip. :thumbup:




FINALLY, someone groks the obvious. Check your new rating...


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14601765 - 06/12/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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How many shroomers here that tell everyone they are more spiritual actually demonstrate such? Case closed! :razz:


That doesn't mean that they don't have "spiritual" experiences on mushrooms when they intentionally cultivate a "spiritual" state of mind beforehand..whether or not they remain "spiritual" afterwards is irrelevant.


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: Poid]
    #14601834 - 06/12/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Is it irrelevant?

If I diet and work out to lose weight to become fitter and remain a fat slob, doesn't that negate the whole point of my regimen?


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14601852 - 06/12/11 04:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That one doesn't remain spiritual after having a spiritual psychedelic experience resulting from an intent to have one doesn't negate the fact that the spiritual psychedelic experience occurred as a result of a spiritually-inclined intent..what happens afterwards is wholly irrelevant, yes, and can't negate what happened beforehand.

I don't think your analogy fits too well (pun slightly intended:tongue:). :fatbastard:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: Poid]
    #14601869 - 06/12/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What is a spiritual experience that doesn't make one more spiritual? Sure sounds like a delusion.


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14601885 - 06/12/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Many bi-curious people have gay experiences that don't make them more gay, but rather make them realize that the gay thing is not for them. :shrug:

That their experience didn't make them more gay doesn't negate the fact that it was a pretty gay-ass experience.


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: Poid]
    #14601914 - 06/12/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, you need to get out of the GBay Area.


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14601923 - 06/12/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

And move to where? Las Gaygas? :smirk:


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: Poid]
    #14602013 - 06/12/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We are the new Silicone Valley!



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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14602036 - 06/12/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What topic does not devolve in sex?




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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14602037 - 06/12/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If all other conditions are the same except for telling yourself the message "I am fo' sho gonna get fucked up!" or "I will learn The Secrets of the Ages", I contend the difference will be negligible.




Congratulations, you realized that one spoken sentence is likely to have little effect on a trip. :thumbup:




FINALLY, someone groks the obvious. Check your new rating...




I don't see it. :sad:


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: Poid]
    #14602185 - 06/12/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As least we have a clear indicator when a thread is officially dead.


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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14602517 - 06/12/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:rofl::crazy2::foreveralone::maximumtrolling:

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Re: I took shrooms just to get fucked up! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14603591 - 06/12/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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We are the new Silicone Valley!







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