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How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ?
    #14600218 - 06/12/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I want to find out whether the extra investment of half pints is worth the time.


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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: Seanfu]
    #14600234 - 06/12/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It will only cut a wk or so off the time.  Last time I did 500ml cakes they took like 5-6 wks.  A half pint usually took 4-5 wks for me.  I havent grown cakes in years but this is what I remember

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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: Seanfu]
    #14600242 - 06/12/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I assume your talking about PF cakes,if so I wouldn't use pint jars as they can cause all sorst of problems colonizing.Go with half pints


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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14600245 - 06/12/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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It will only cut a wk or so off the time.  Last time I did 500ml cakes they took like 5-6 wks.  A half pint usually took 4-5 wks for me.  I havent grown cakes in years but this is what I remember




I think hes talking about grain? not positive though...

anyways yeah 1/2 pints may be a few days faster, but IMO (if you are talking about grains), I would just work with pints or quarts, much less work.

If youre working with cakes, 1/2 pints are the way to go.  Cake 1/2 pints colonize a lot quicker than pints because you cant shake them like grains


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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14600249 - 06/12/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I assume your talking about PF cakes,if so I wouldn't use pint jars as they can cause all sorst of problems colonizing.Go with half pints



Id only use LC for a 500ml cake.  Lots of time that i used spores the jar would stall, but i dont think it ever happened with LC

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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: Seanfu]
    #14600430 - 06/12/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I was talking about pf tek. I didnt know it was too fragile for a pint. Guess I'll learn grain.


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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: Seanfu]
    #14600435 - 06/12/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea there are issues with using pints for cakes.  Learn how to prep grain it totaly brings your grow to a whole new level you need a pressure cooker tho and I dont know how easily obtainable that will be for you:shrug:

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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14600468 - 06/12/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Grain ain't that hard. But read up on moisture content before you try

And you can get and 8qt pc at walmart for 39.99 that'll fit 4 quart jars at a time

Make lids self healing injection ports and gas exchange holes with built in filters, they're very easy to make, and reduce contam risk, there is a tek on the search engine.

Also get tyvek for filtration. Go get some free tyvek envelopes at the post office, works perfect and is 100% autoclavable


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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14600550 - 06/12/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I assume your talking about PF cakes,if so I wouldn't use pint jars as they can cause all sorst of problems colonizing.Go with half pints



Id only use LC for a 500ml cake.  Lots of time that i used spores the jar would stall, but i dont think it ever happened with LC




I also assumed he was using MS :shrug:


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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14600569 - 06/12/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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steelmonkey said:
I assume your talking about PF cakes,if so I wouldn't use pint jars as they can cause all sorst of problems colonizing.Go with half pints



Id only use LC for a 500ml cake.  Lots of time that i used spores the jar would stall, but i dont think it ever happened with LC




I also assumed he was using MS :shrug:



Yea i just seen another post by the OP saying that he has LC so thats wat I was thinking:shrug:

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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14600575 - 06/12/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

And im :fried: and i think i might have gotten threads mixed up

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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14600595 - 06/12/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14600633 - 06/12/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14600638 - 06/12/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

fact; everything these guys are saying about pint pf's is not true. Jars stall because something is wrong with them. The cakes are not fragile. It is true that they take 30-40% longer than 1/2 pints. They gat a bad rep., but they don't deserve it

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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14600663 - 06/12/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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fact; everything these guys are saying about pint pf's is not true. Jars stall because something is wrong with them. The cakes are not fragile. It is true that they take 30-40% longer than 1/2 pints. They gat a bad rep., but they don't deserve it




Im just stating my experience.  Ive never had a half pint stall on me the only time ive had cakes stall is in 500ml jars from an MS syringe:shrug2:

Its never happened to me from LC

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Re: How much longer to colonize 1 pint vs 1/2 ? [Re: UnnamedGrower]
    #14600829 - 06/12/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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fact; everything these guys are saying about pint pf's is not true. Jars stall because something is wrong with them. The cakes are not fragile. It is true that they take 30-40% longer than 1/2 pints. They gat a bad rep., but they don't deserve it




Im just stating my experience.  Ive never had a half pint stall on me the only time ive had cakes stall is in 500ml jars from an MS syringe:shrug2:

Its never happened to me from LC




My first round of cakes stalled because water content was too high, it's a common problem, I used the standard recipe with verm that was too coarse and thus couldn't hold as much water, I corrected the issue next time around


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