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What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream?
#14598104 - 06/11/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Of course I think it's an absurdity and in no way justified that people are thrown in prison for smoking, eating, dropping, or in some other way consuming something, but I'm not sure if I would like it if psychedelics became mainstream. And that's probably what would happen if drugs were legalized, wouldn't you think? If mushrooms were legalized, for instance, they would gain publicity, more people would know about them, and more people would be willing to try them. And I know what you're thinking - Salvia isn't like that. Datura isn't like that. But these drugs aren't as well known as others like mushrooms and LSD. And since these haven't been in the spotlight of federal politics yet they haven't gained any publicity and won't until they are banned (which knowing our government and society, is bound to happen eventually.)
In short, I definitely don't want drugs banned, but I'm also afraid that if they are, they will become more mainstream and people will just casually use it like they do alcohol. I'm afraid more people might try psychedelics to "get fucked up" then to actually gain any insight from it or use it in a more dignified manner. I think people should have the right to do this, but I mourn the day when they start to do so.
What do you think?
Edited by Celestial Traveler (06/11/11 09:45 PM)
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#14598153 - 06/11/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Celestial Traveler said: Of course I think it's an absurdity and in no way justified that people are thrown in prison for smoking, eating, dropping, or in some other way consuming something, but I'm not sure if I would like it if psychedelics became mainstream.
Why wouldn't you like it? What business is it of yours if other people decide to use drugs? Why do you even give a fuck?
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Celestial Traveler said: I think people should have the right to do this, but I mourn the day when they start to do so.
Why?
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Celestial Traveler said: What do you think?
I think it's buttfucking retarded that you actually give so much of a shit about how people decide to use their drugs.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Poid]
#14598192 - 06/11/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think it's buttfucking retarded that you actually give so much of a shit about how people decide to use their drugs.
Poid, in this forum it is OK to say what you really think.
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Poid]
#14598202 - 06/11/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Celestial Traveler said: Of course I think it's an absurdity and in no way justified that people are thrown in prison for smoking, eating, dropping, or in some other way consuming something, but I'm not sure if I would like it if psychedelics became mainstream.
Why wouldn't you like it? What business is it of yours if other people decide to use drugs? Why do you even give a fuck?
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Celestial Traveler said: I think people should have the right to do this, but I mourn the day when they start to do so.
Why?
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Celestial Traveler said: What do you think?
I think it's buttfucking retarded that you actually give so much of a shit about how people decide to use their drugs.
I think it's buttfucking retarded that you're being such a stuck-up ass over how I view other peoples' drug use.
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#14598211 - 06/11/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think it's buttfucking retarded that you think it's buttfucking retarded that I'm being such a stuck-up ass over how you view other people's drug use.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Poid]
#14598229 - 06/11/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes yes 
But can we all agree that butt fucking is not in and of itself retarded?
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Poid]
#14598231 - 06/11/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said: I think it's buttfucking retarded that you think it's buttfucking retarded that I'm being such a stuck-up ass over how you view other people's drug use.
I don't really give a shit. It was a tad annoying at first read, but I don't really care. I used to be a lot like you when I was younger (and I'm not even that old)when I thought I could sound REALLY, REALLY, over-the-top angry at NOTHING and appear wiser and more intelligent as a result.
You want to burst an artery over such a tiny, insignificant matter, go ahead. Please.
From now on you are ignored.
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#14598242 - 06/11/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cups said: Yes yes 
But can we all agree that butt fucking is not in and of itself retarded?
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Yeah, buttfucking definitely has its perks. 
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Celestial Traveler said: From now on you are ignored.

And I thought I was overly sensitive.
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#14598251 - 06/11/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, since you can still see me let me assure you he doesn't care. 
To answer your original post it wouldn't concern me. It'd be just like it is now. Out of 100% of user maybe a few percentage points do the work....or are able to do the work is perhaps more accurate. 
At any rate, I'm not sure there is a dignified manner in which to use salvia.
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Cups]
#14598259 - 06/11/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cups said: Well, since you can still see me let me assure you he doesn't care. 
To answer your original post it wouldn't concern me. It'd be just like it is now. Out of 100% of user maybe a few percentage points do the work....or are able to do the work is perhaps more accurate. 
At any rate, I'm not sure there is a dignified manner in which to use salvia. 
I can still see what he's saying I'm just not going to reply to him, not worth my time. And what do you mean "Out of 100% of user maybe a few percentage points"
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Cups]
#14598261 - 06/11/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cups said: Well, since you can still see me let me assure you he doesn't care. 
I was just totally fucking around, and he took it majorly seriously..I totally fucked up his mood, it's hilarious.

-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#14598385 - 06/11/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Celestial Traveler said: And what do you mean "Out of 100% of user maybe a few percentage points"
Just based on my observations. As an old timer once hinted at to me-
"If the drugs work so well...then where are all the older members?"
Why isn't the shroomery full of thousands of enlightened dudes in their 30s instead of thousands of tripped out kids 18-24 and a few older guys who've stood the test of time?
Just something to think about.
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Edited by Cups (06/11/11 10:59 PM)
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Poid]
#14598390 - 06/11/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't get it! Is this really the OTD?
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Poid]
#14598425 - 06/11/11 11:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The shroomy 1 said: I don't get it! Is this really the OTD? 
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Poid]
#14598446 - 06/11/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said: I was just totally fucking around, and he took it majorly seriously..I totally fucked up his mood, it's hilarious.
 
You know how sometimes when someone wants to talk to you they will stand around looking busy shuffling papers or something and then as soon as you walk by the look up and pretend like they just saw you? "Oh hey there!"

As I've said I run a lawn care business and earlier this week I had a lady who desperately wanted to update me on the status of her ill mothers health. I saw her on the back porch looking up at the ceiling like an idiot and then glancing at me repeat etc. So, to fuck with her I kept bringing my mower close and slowing it down like I was about to stop and open the gate.
5 fucking time I got her to turn around before I slammed the throttle and whipped a u-turn.

Later on in the day I told the story to my brother and the pure excellence of what I had done hit me like a ton of bricks...I had a legitimate cheese moment. Almost passed out from a lack of oxygen. 
Then I felt a little ashamed of myself for manipulating a poor old lady. 
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Cups]
#14598484 - 06/11/11 11:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said: I was just totally fucking around, and he took it majorly seriously..I totally fucked up his mood, it's hilarious.
 
You know how sometimes when someone wants to talk to you they will stand around looking busy shuffling papers or something and then as soon as you walk by the look up and pretend like they just saw you? "Oh hey there!"

, yeah. 
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Cups said: As I've said I run a lawn care business...
You're a beaner? 

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Cups said: Then I felt a little ashamed of myself for manipulating a poor old lady. 

Poor old ladies are off-limits.
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Cups]
#14598507 - 06/11/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just based on my observations. As an old timer once hinted at to me-
"If the drugs work so well...then where are all the older members?"
Why isn't the shroomery full of thousands of enlightened dudes in their 30s instead of thousands of tripped out kids 18-24 and a few older guys who've stood the test of time?
Just something to think about.
I like to trip hard but I don't see myself ever tripping out, I see having to many bad trips or letting the psychedelic experience get to your head will really fuck your mental state over though.
Edited by Harri (06/11/11 11:22 PM)
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Poid]
#14598522 - 06/11/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said: You're a beaner?
Nah, Mick w/red beard and all. All the good psychedelic guys are Irish man! It's in the DNA or something.
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Poid said:Poor old ladies are off-limits. 
No one is off limits when I need a laugh. Especially not someone who spends 10 minutes a week talking to me about the same shit over and over and over again.
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Harri]
#14598541 - 06/11/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Harri said: I like to trip hard but I don't see myself ever tripping out, I see having to many bad trips or letting the psychedelic experience get to your head will really fuck your mental state over though.
Problem is, if you don't let it get to your head then nothing ever changes. 
At that point is purely recreational which is fine if that's your goal...but most newbies harp the mind expansion aspect and few can handle it or want to once they get a taste.
I definitely was the typical newbie...then I got a taste...but I've got this sickness you see. A sickness of the soul which I feel compelled to chase down and kick in the balls.
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Re: What would you think if psychedelics became mainstream? [Re: Cups]
#14598547 - 06/11/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said:Poor old ladies are off-limits. 
No one is off limits when I need a laugh. Especially not someone who spends 10 minutes a week talking to me about the same shit over and over and over again. 
That's the spirit! 
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