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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: mellowparty]
    #14600458 - 06/12/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You a biochem major?


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
    #14600463 - 06/12/11 11:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: mellowparty]
    #14600477 - 06/12/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

whats your opinion on Rife's work?


im kind of :slow: with some of this stuff.

cancer is awesome for companies that collect money for people dying.  they actually have estimates of death percentages in the company every year.


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: the human abstract]
    #14600495 - 06/12/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I read about Rife's microscope 6 years ago and I thought it was really cool :awejeez:

I cant say anything conclusive because I haven't read anything really objective and scientifically documented (with data, controls etc) but I its very intriguing I'll tell you that.

I'm frequently looking for microscope parts (my hobby) on ebay and once I saw his microscope being sold for quarter of a million by some guy in LA. Wonder if it was fake.


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: mellowparty]
    #14600505 - 06/12/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i would love to have a nice microscope. I remember your crystal pictures on the growery, those were bad ass.


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: Legend]
    #14600611 - 06/12/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You can build one designed for creating :raveface: colours when you trip. :pm: me if you're interested in a list of items.


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: mellowparty]
    #14602107 - 06/12/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I watched the first 30 minutes...that's awesome! The cure is out there...and it's really disheartening to know that even with effective methods of treatment out there, we are still using the most destructive forms of treatment available :mad2:


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: mellowparty]
    #14602196 - 06/12/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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What they want is a therapy that you would need continuously rather than a one hit cure. I'm sure you can figure out why. Its ridiculous, I know :facepalm:




Why?  A one hit cancer cure would be worth billions.

Why wouldn't someone want a billion dollars?


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: badchad]
    #14602232 - 06/12/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
What they want is a therapy that you would need continuously rather than a one hit cure. I'm sure you can figure out why. Its ridiculous, I know :facepalm:




Why?  A one hit cancer cure would be worth billions.

Why wouldn't someone want a billion dollars?



Continuous therapy would generate substantially higher income for the pharmaceutical companies compared to 1 hit cure. Why make a billion dollars when you can make 1 billion dollars times 20 or so.


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: mellowparty]
    #14602256 - 06/12/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
What they want is a therapy that you would need continuously rather than a one hit cure. I'm sure you can figure out why. Its ridiculous, I know :facepalm:




Why?  A one hit cancer cure would be worth billions.

Why wouldn't someone want a billion dollars?



Continuous therapy would generate substantially higher income for the pharmaceutical companies compared to 1 hit cure. Why make a billion dollars when you can make 1 billion dollars times 20 or so.




If an easy billion was sitting around, I think someone would develop it, regardless of what they thought they could make in the future.

There are tons of small startup companies with few or no products.  If you had nothing, I think a billion would be a good incentive.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: badchad]
    #14602287 - 06/12/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If you cured a bunch of people with your product you make the income generating therapy of larger companies obsolete. They wont be very happy and will try to eliminate you as they tried with the doctor guy from the video. No one gives a shit whether you die in horrible pains, being eaten by the cancer or no. Its all about what shit they could sell you that would suck out the largest amount of money before you die.


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: mellowparty]
    #14602316 - 06/12/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe.  But Capitalistic companies compete against each other all the time, and screw each other out of millions while doing so.

Nobody has killed Steve Jobs because the iphone is beating out google for billions.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: badchad]
    #14602321 - 06/12/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The pharmaceutical business is worth trillions of dollars. Thats a lot of money.


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: badchad]
    #14602336 - 06/12/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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There are tons of small startup companies with few or no products.  If you had nothing, I think a billion would be a good incentive.




It's not that nobody has an incentive to market or create these products - it's that big-time pharmaceutical companies have the sort of influence that makes it a lifelong struggle just to get simple FDA approval and funding for studies.


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: badchad]
    #14602356 - 06/12/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Perhaps, but according to Wiki, the single most profitable Cancer drug grossed 2.2 billion in sales.

It just seems that if a magical cure were just waiting inside a youtube video, it would be developed.  In every aspect of pharmaceutical development, the goal is to outdo your competition. I find little reason to think Cancer is an exception.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: badchad]
    #14602539 - 06/12/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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In every aspect of pharmaceutical development, the goal is to outdo your competition. I find little reason to think Cancer is an exception.




Outdoing your competition includes playing dirty. It'd be a different story if the pharmaceutical business were a level playing field but, like most endeavors in America, the business that makes the most money, and not the best product, usually controls the game.

It's the same situation with GM. They were getting beat out by competitors and were starting to go bankrupt as a result. Instead of saying "that's the game" and letting GM go under or making them massively downsize, thus letting the competition fill the niche, the government bailed them out.


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: Muufokfok]
    #14603478 - 06/12/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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i am completely against chemotherapy, people that support it are uneducated and lazy. thanks for this, gonna watch it to sleep tonight :rainyday:



:shrug: saved my dads life.



at what cost?



:shrug: hes still in quite good physical shape for being 61 and having had fairly serious cancer twice in his life... and still has hair (2nd time he got it treated through proton therapy)


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: twighead]
    #14604182 - 06/13/11 01:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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i am completely against chemotherapy, people that support it are uneducated and lazy. thanks for this, gonna watch it to sleep tonight :rainyday:



:shrug: saved my dads life.



at what cost?



:shrug: hes still in quite good physical shape for being 61 and having had fairly serious cancer twice in his life... and still has hair (2nd time he got it treated through proton therapy)



not bad, i myself would never do chemo, i dont care if you do it, its just a personal thing like with my mostly veg diet.

if i had cancer, id go live on the beach for 3 months or more, with a very healthy nutritious diet, exercise and good vibes, and i guess some antineoplastons


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Re: The cure for cancer? watch before the 13th. [Re: Legend]
    #14604284 - 06/13/11 02:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

wow man. this documentary really hit home for me. unfortunately my dad recently passed on from a malignant brain tumour. if only i had see this video or heard of this information maybe a year or two ago....maybe things could have been different. :sad: it makes me really sad to know that things like this are going on in the world....how the FDA/NCI botched those trials and essentially just let patients die on purpose with unsatisfactory treatment, all in the pursuit of this fucking diabolic pharmacutical conspiracy. Shit like this is deplorable, disgusting and intollerable. what the fuck is wrong with these people. :crankey:


that was such a great documentary though. thanks alot for posting. +5!!!!


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