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Ziggy-Shr00mdust
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FishOilTheKid said:
The projection of reality can be controlled by the astral beings. There is a realm of imagery of the imagination that can interact with the physical world and appear superimposed over external reality. An intense amount of psychic disharmony can be created and directed. In my opinion one can be 'held' there. Much like the perpetual schizophrenia idea mentioned. ...whether dead or alive. Word is: the astral beings that have the opportunity to 'harvest' desirable energy and personality traits also have the power to arrange synchronicity, choice, and afterlife particulars.
Also... When awakening, one can get caught 'in front of the community' and with the system as is, one is seen in the imagination of others. The judgmental nature of 'them' can create a continual projection of who you are that competes with your sincere portrayal from within. This can gain some control over your emotions and mental responses then force its understanding of who 'it/they' think you are at you and on to you turning your body into a device to imprison the spirit. It is felt as layers of consciousness that have the effect of wrapping you in limitation. This is hellish.
Speculative!
Life after death may exist in one form or another but we have no means of coming to any rational conclusion concerning its nature, let alone the specific details of it.
-------------------- He who attains his ideal by that very fact transcends it To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders
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don_vedo
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: Icelander]
#14621875 - 06/16/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Giving advice is risky business especially when it's laid down without stating it's just an opinion and the poster might be assumed to have expertize in that particular area. (this is why I often add "imo" to my advice ) Advice can be wrong and even do damage and imo it's valid to question it for clarification or evidence of validity. If my disbelief offends you then convince me.
Good way to put that ice. Not saying your wrong in your statement klopi but he does have a point: it's better to state things as your own opinion instead of making a general statement, that way it does seem to cone off factual but merely opinion based.
Either way ice is a hard one to crack, in my opinion it seems as if he has a lot of years (age) on many of the members here which in turn provides a lot more life experience, or maybe he's just a grumpy old man . I would beg to differ that on him not having much to add, while sarcastic sometimes I would say that many of the posts I have read have been short but meaningful, well at least for me.
Oh well here I am again being a damn mediator; I enjoy everyone's opinions just always need to remember that for the most part they are merely opinions.
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-------------------- Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us all. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: don_vedo]
#14621965 - 06/16/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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which in turn provides a lot more life experience, or maybe he's just a grumpy old man
Both of course.
I've experienced first hand what offhand comments about sexual conduct can do to those raised in families where there is a lot of guilt and shame being handed out around sex and sexual activity. I have friends who agree so I know it's not just myself that had to deal with this. There is nothing wrong with casual sex, at least in most instances. If you like and are attracted to someone then why not enjoy it to the fullest. As long as honesty is maintained there is rarely a problem. I had no idea why that was included in that posters recommendations and without some explanation someone could easily assume that casual sex itself was somehow wrong.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: Icelander]
#14622252 - 06/16/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would have to agree that casual sex is not a big deal although some may not think so due to various reasons; personally I do not partake in the fun due to the fact that I am in a committed relationship. I believe you make a great point by saying that honesty needs to be kept, I would say respect is also very key in that kind of situation.
In my opinion, humans are emotional beings, we are feeling based. Sexual experiences are just another way to express those feelings and emotions, regardless if it is casual sex or committed.
Lah'Kesh
-------------------- Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us all. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: don_vedo]
#14622292 - 06/16/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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The problem is most the vast majority of human's don't have the emotional maturity to handle it and deal too much with attachment, which leads to pain amongst other things.
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14622353 - 06/16/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Great point c0sm0 I definitely agree with that as well.
Lah'Kesh
-------------------- Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us all. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: klopi123]
#14622566 - 06/16/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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FishOilTheKid said: ^These are things that I am experiencing now and have been part of what I have found myself a part of. I don't know where one might read more. If you all know anything more I would appreciate hearing it. Especially you Klopi claiming to know that hell is real and what not...
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klopi123 said: Well for starters if you got the boogies you need to stop creating fear, they live off your energy. Stop hanging around people that are energetically draining or negative. Spend time outdoors, pray, eat well, stay off hard drugs and no random sex parters.
Love yourself and practice forgiveness, do good - they feed off negativity.
Get out of your house whenever possible, exercise and just try to surround yourself with good, positive people.
If you feel like there is a build up of energy that seems to be stuck try positive visualizations releasing attachments, energy. Visualize it leaving you. Remember we are connected. How is your energy flowing do you feel like energy is flowing to you or from you? If its flowing to you then, stop. Your energy needs to flow out. Make sure when you practice this do this with the attitude of forgiveness and love or whatever "positive" energy you can send out. Love of course is the best!
This information was for FishOilTheKid and his situation. If you want to screw everything that walks be my guest.
Take what you want and leave the rest.
From what I have seen most of Icelander posts seem to have little to any substance and at times confrontational without an explanation. If you disagree with something why not explain yourself? The whole I'm right your wrong, back and forth is so fucking kindergarten.
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: klopi123] 2
#14622581 - 06/16/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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This thread's total posts/new posts count came up in My Threads as 66(6). Spooky!
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: Lion]
#14622670 - 06/16/11 01:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's a sign you need to take it easy with the orgies.
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: klopi123]
#14623497 - 06/16/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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" If you disagree with something why not explain yourself? The whole I'm right your wrong, back and forth is so fucking kindergarten." You're right. There's the debate forum for that.
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14623547 - 06/16/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said: The problem is most the vast majority of human's don't have the emotional maturity to handle it and deal too much with attachment, which leads to pain amongst other things.
Pain is one way we learn. Avoiding pain is not always the best path.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: klopi123]
#14623571 - 06/16/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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This information was for FishOilTheKid and his situation. If you want to screw everything that walks be my guest.
This is an open forum and other people read this advice. We all discuss the posts here.
Casual sex does not have to mean "screwing everything that walks".
And if one is giving advice and explanation of why that advice was in order would be a good idea I would think.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: Icelander]
#14623701 - 06/16/11 04:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Icelander said:
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c0sm0nautt said: The problem is most the vast majority of human's don't have the emotional maturity to handle it and deal too much with attachment, which leads to pain amongst other things.
Pain is one way we learn. Avoiding pain is not always the best path.
Touché, good point ice I would have to agree with that too. In my opinion however the pain could turn into something else which could ultimately overshadow the learning experience involve in the event. Something such as obsession or anger; from my experiene the emotionally immature do not like to take responsibilities for there actions.
Lah'Kesh
-------------------- Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us all. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: klopi123]
#14624520 - 06/16/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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and at times confrontational without an explanation.
Yes I'm guilty of this myself. It's good for me to have this pointed out.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: Icelander]
#14624651 - 06/16/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Icelander, I felt you had been attacking my posts in a passive aggressive manner. My apologies.
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: klopi123] 1
#14624778 - 06/16/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's my style of posting and everyone gets it. I've been trying to change that but it's a long slow process unfortunately. Lots of anger from a really religious and repressive childhood. Not an excuse but a reason.
It was good you called me on my bs and I actually do listen occasionally.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: Icelander]
#14625393 - 06/16/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ziggy-Shr00mdust said: I find the christian concept of heaven to be infinitely more unsettling than their concept of eternal punishment. And I know i'm not alone.
You have no idea. If you went to heaven you'd have to spend time with my dad.
Did he die recently?
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No worries. Much love.
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MarkostheGnostic said:
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Icelander said:
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Ziggy-Shr00mdust said: I find the christian concept of heaven to be infinitely more unsettling than their concept of eternal punishment. And I know i'm not alone.
You have no idea. If you went to heaven you'd have to spend time with my dad.
Did he die recently?
No but I'm still praying about it. I stand to inherit a large sum of fun.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: was thinking about Hell [Re: Icelander]
#14627194 - 06/17/11 09:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Did he die recently?
No but I'm still praying about it. I stand to inherit a large sum of fun.
You're praying for your father to die?
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