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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
    #14596624 - 06/11/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ive been a tripper for 30 years ,and yes it does get boring sometimes,  but what ive found out is set and setting makes all the difference in the world,,,,,,go camping ,a day hike, museums, concerts a friends house for and hour or two,a walk,,, just a simple walk in nature, and my favorite remedy of all   
NEW DRUGS,,,,, different drugs are like getting a new girlfriend, or when you get a new car or guitar,, or whatever . i got tired of acid back in the 90s and haven't done any since 99, i do miss her though, but i also play a round with compounds that will potenciate a trip like datura seeds and combos like mescaline  with shrooms , but all in all as you get older you get jaded, in other words  i just dont  have the need to trip like i use too,, but i still enjoy it very much,, i think i always will ,its  like music,, i still  like and love some of the music i listen to 20 years ago but my pallet has changed
  but try to space out your trips,,  and  try and do or see something new the day of your trip,
                    and remember its only a drug experience and the strangest trip of all IS LIFE


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: ant61]
    #14596676 - 06/11/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe you just need to break throu to new ideas, so your trips dont turn into the smae stuff.

Get some interesting shit to think about dduring your next one, get a book on Zen and Taoism, quantum mechanics and Psychneuroimmunology.

Just start expanding your mind without the use of drugs, then see what happens


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
    #14596861 - 06/11/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Your questions are strange. Why did you try psychedelic drugs in the first place?


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: Rhizoid]
    #14597017 - 06/11/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly, I wanted to hallucinate and after my first dose my whole mindset changed. I never realized the tremoundous potential they had for getting past your own bullshit and unlocking new perspectives of life and how to approach it. Then it slowly evolved into locking me into reality tunnels instead of freeing me from them. That's when I decided I needed frequent breaks in between trips and for awhile that worked. Every 3-4 months I'd eat 200-300mg mescaline+ hit or two of lucy and meditate on my existence it was great. Then, while still fun, started to get more and more repetative untill I reached the point i'm at now.


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: ant61]
    #14597021 - 06/11/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you, ant61 and Azure Essence I will keep your ideas in mind when I decide to trip again.


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: ant61]
    #14597055 - 06/11/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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ive been a tripper for 30 years ,and yes it does get boring sometimes,  but what ive found out is set and setting makes all the difference in the world,,,,,,go camping ,a day hike, museums, concerts a friends house for and hour or two,a walk,,, just a simple walk in nature, and my favorite remedy of all   
NEW DRUGS,,,,, different drugs are like getting a new girlfriend, or when you get a new car or guitar,, or whatever . i got tired of acid back in the 90s and haven't done any since 99, i do miss her though, but i also play a round with compounds that will potenciate a trip like datura seeds and combos like mescaline  with shrooms , but all in all as you get older you get jaded, in other words  i just dont  have the need to trip like i use too,, but i still enjoy it very much,, i think i always will ,its  like music,, i still  like and love some of the music i listen to 20 years ago but my pallet has changed
  but try to space out your trips,,  and  try and do or see something new the day of your trip,
                    and remember its only a drug experience and the strangest trip of all IS LIFE





Pretty much this.

Exploring nature keeps things constantly new.


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: muirileD]
    #14597682 - 06/11/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Doing them too often really becomes a chore


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14598146 - 06/11/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Why does there have to point a point when you take psychedelics?

Maybe they are making a point out o your using them though.

Because for you to find the substance to be getting old or boring you are not having enough, or have just lost the magic.

Take a break, even though you said you have been taking 6 month breaks between doses, try a larger one, or sustain from any psychoactive you can.

To be honest I personally dont see the point in tripping if it gets to the point where it is repetitive, try mix it up and do things you dont normally do while intoxicated.

Try do some social activities on some low doses, or try really high doses with a trusted friend, I have found that when I feel repetition in my trips I either double the dose the next time I trip of take a low dose and go play some sports or just have a couple drinks with some friends out at a park, or go fishing or some other laid back easy going activity.




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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: joemolloy]
    #14599704 - 06/12/11 07:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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joemolloy said:
For me it eventually devolved into classic drug taking behavior.  Get high, feel fucking awesome, convince myself I was growing intellectually, emotionally, and spiritually.  No, the trips never got boring or old.  Ayahuasca would always outdo itself and take me a million times higher than my last trip and the ecstasy of the trip would match the increased intensity.  Each trip was always the best day of my life.  The reason why you are probably bored is because you haven't found the right drug yet.  If you find the right drug, be it psychedelic or otherwise, it fits like a lock and key and its difficult to look back or slow down. 

Consider it a gift that these drugs let you off the hook with their mundanity.  Imagine the alternative at the other end of the spectrum.  I have a feeling many of us on this forum skirt the extreme edges of the spectrum.




Great perspective.

Gotta watch the self - he'll get ya!

~OP:

I personally would say, "If you are bored, find something else to do". At times when I become bored with it, I simply switch things up - take (more) time off, consume large quantities of mind-blowing information, get out - gain some experiences to reflect on... nutrition, meditation, etc. These are all activities that have always armed me with plenty of "ammunition" for making my trips much more pleasurable... although primarily view my getting bored as an indicator that I need to focus more on balance (through these activities)... for overall health/well being, rather than simply to enhance my trips. Sort of just a way to gauge personal balance through these sessions of analysis I guess.

Now of course Joe would say that I am only telling myself that (which may even have been that case at some point in time)its all for health... but if it positively effects my behavior... what does it really matter? Regardless of my original intents - my experiences with psychedelics have been crucial in my increased interest in these healthy practices. Maybe at some point I was in it because they had a positive effect on my sessions... but since I have realized the vast benefits of ... well... living health and balance-focused (lol) - the drive is very real and permanent.


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
    #14623592 - 06/16/11 04:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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love2shpongleIRL said:
Not alot. Most of my trips are alone at home. With some social one's at my beach house and festivals.



This is the problem. I used to trip alone frequently when I started using psychedelics this is ok sometimes in my opinion but gets boring real fast. Tripping with other people is so much more fun, personally it's a little hard to imagine the trip getting boring cause there's still so many people I'd still like to trip with and so many places I'd like to trip at as well.

I've actually gotten to the point where I really can't stand tripping alone I just feel like the experience is so much better when with other people.


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: Mycjunky]
    #14623633 - 06/16/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't read this whole thread, but OP I think you're tripping too often, or you need to eat more when you do trip.

Mundane is the last word I'd use to describe a trip. Maybe a sub-threshold trip...


If you aren't enjoying it anymore at all then simply don't eat them. I think you should change up your environment. Go eat them in new places. Like some beautiful outdoor scenic area you are visiting for the first time. That is always an amazing way to trip - in a place you have never been before.

And I agree with the above for my purposes, about tripping with people being better. I want to take psychedelics and simultaneously make connections with other people. The big trip alone at home thing is something I could really only do probably once a year.
Put yourself in the right environment where you can trip with people you feel totally comfortable with. Festivals and such. Burning man ?! Of course. You know, a kingdom of freaks where everybody looks ten times as crazy as you do, and they all want to give you a hug. That is an amazing environment for reasonable doses of psychedelics. Guaranteed not to be the least bit mundane. Proceed at your own caution, know your body, know your substance, etc etc yadda yadda yadddda.


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
    #14623715 - 06/16/11 04:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, IME there comes a time when there is no point in taking psychedelics anymore...it's mundane & redundant as you said.  Tim Leary once said "Once you get the message it's OK to hang up the phone".  It's a journey, just like life.  I don't trip anymore, and don't have any need or desire to.....don't use any drugs anymore for that matter.

I got what I got out of psychedelics, and even though it's been a while since I closed that chapter in my life, those experiences are still close to my consciousness & probably always will be.

It's not a bad thing, just part of the flow my friend. :smile: 


There are plenty of other adventures to explore in life, and the experiences you had/lessons learned will be with you always.


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: Dark_Star]
    #14623807 - 06/16/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Actually Alan Watts said that.

In contrast...
A quote of Timothy Leary's, when asked if there was anything he regretted doing in life...
"I have a lot of regrets...two things I regret, I should have taken more psychedelic drugs, and I should have made love more."

In other words, I don't think Tim ever hung up the phone!


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: drr]
    #14623894 - 06/16/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Whoops, my bad.....anyway the quote still stands.  When it's time to move on, it's time to move on.  When that time comes is different for everyone...and for some it never comes.  Once tripping is like a broken record it's definitely time to move on.


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: Dark_Star]
    #14623910 - 06/16/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Bored with psychedelics? Smoke some salvia or DMT!


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: Connoisseur]
    #14624022 - 06/16/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

They can get old too my friend.


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: Dark_Star]
    #14624202 - 06/16/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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They can get old too my friend.




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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: Connoisseur]
    #14624206 - 06/16/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"When you get the message, hang up the phone."
-Alan Watts


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: raw-beets]
    #14624213 - 06/16/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Oops, someone beat me to the punch^^^


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Re: Psychedelic's becoming mundane. [Re: Dark_Star]
    #14624228 - 06/16/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Whoops, my bad.....anyway the quote still stands.  When it's time to move on, it's time to move on.  When that time comes is different for everyone...and for some it never comes.  Once tripping is like a broken record it's definitely time to move on.



No worries! And it is true, I agree.

Though I admit that I've got the message and I'm still talking. :shrug: It hasn't become dull for me whatsoever, though, either. And I know many people well into their 50s and 60s who continue using psychedelics.


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