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Chad1
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Re: Green Energy and Conservation in Mushroom Growing [Re: mister]
#14621019 - 06/16/11 04:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was wanting to know about harvesting the grain as well. Is there any special conditions you have to follow when using a combine to keep them organic? Also what are the organic requirements of the land?
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Green Energy and Conservation in Mushroom Growing [Re: Chad1]
#14622050 - 06/16/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I only have this small patch, way too little for a combine. I'll end up harvesting with a scythe or brush hog. After it field dries, I'll rake it up and shred with my shredder. To maintain organic, you have to ensure your bearings are sealed so no petroleum grease gets into the straw, in addition of course to the other requirements for certification. I'll separate the grains in some future year. Last year and this, I waited until most of the grains had seeded, or the deer had consumed them. I felt the natural spreading was worth more in the long run than last year's harvest. RR
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mister
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Re: Green Energy and Conservation in Mushroom Growing [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14623393 - 06/16/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would advise against a bush hog. It would spread your seed everywhere. Sickle mower would be almost ideal for the job.
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Chad1
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Re: Green Energy and Conservation in Mushroom Growing [Re: mister]
#14623790 - 06/16/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would think brush hog would destroy the straw. I thought you were harvesting for rye grain. sickle would work great.
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Re: Green Energy and Conservation in Mushroom Growing [Re: Chad1]
#14625092 - 06/16/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mostly, I'm going to harvest it for the straw. I'll leave the grain attached to supplement substrates.(What the deer leave, that is) It will run through a shredder after drying. I'm not sure I'm patient enough to sort through and separate all the grains. Not when I can buy 50 pound sacks of organic rye berries for $20. RR
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lipa

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Re: Green Energy and Conservation in Mushroom Growing [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14626347 - 06/17/11 01:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said: Not when I can buy 50 pound sacks of organic rye berries for $20. RR
I just wanted to say thanks for the rye berry hookup. I have a steady supply now without breaking the bank. What a relief!
Lipa
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Chad1
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Re: Green Energy and Conservation in Mushroom Growing [Re: lipa]
#14626684 - 06/17/11 05:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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What stipulations are there for using sawdust organically?
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Green Energy and Conservation in Mushroom Growing [Re: Chad1]
#14626906 - 06/17/11 07:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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The sawdust must be certified to come from trees which have not been sprayed for things like bark beetle, plus they can not have been sprayed at the mill, which is common.
I no longer have a source for organic straw, so planted some of my own organic rye berries as seed. We did this last year, and just left it all for the deer and birds to spread. This year, we have about ten times the acreage in rye, so I'll be cutting it later this summer. RR
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Chad1
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Re: Green Energy and Conservation in Mushroom Growing [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14629052 - 06/17/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Where are you finding your rye berries at? Also, what is sprayed on the sawdust at a mill?
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