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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: NetDiver]
    #14580654 - 06/08/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Samurai Drifter said:
Someday, I am almost certainly going to kill myself.

Not for a lack of loving life, or any nihilistic world view.  I just want to know, conclusively, what it feels like to die. "Curiosity killed the cat," as they say.





I'd love to watch. :cool:


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: Icelander]
    #14580666 - 06/08/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

June 2011 - Russian who buried himself alive dies by mistake. The victim phoned from the coffin to say he was fine, but the next morning he was found dead.

A Russian man has died after persuading a friend to bury him alive for a night, hoping it would bring him "good luck".

The victim dug a hole in a garden in the eastern city of Blagoveshchensk and climbed into an improvised coffin, with holes for air pipes, taking a mobile phone and a bottle of water with him.

His friend covered the coffin with earth and then left, after the buried man phoned to say he was fine.

The next morning, he returned to find his friend dead, investigators said.

The 35-year-old victim had believed that burying himself alive for a night would bring him luck the rest of his life.

"According to his friend, the man wanted to test his endurance and insistently asked his friend to help him spend the night buried," said Alexei Lubinsky, a senior aide to the region's chief investigator.

"We know that the victim was a computer programmer and that he has a small child."

The coffin was covered with soil to a depth of about 20cm (eight inches), Mr Lubinsky said.

He speculated that heavy rainfall overnight could have blocked the air supply to the man trapped inside.

The superstitious victim was probably influenced by reading stories about self-burial on the internet, investigators said.

In a bizarre trend, numerous Russian bloggers write of undergoing supervised self-burial. State newspaper Rossiiskaya Gazeta has even run a feature on the practice.

The BBC's Steve Rosenberg, in Moscow, says it is not the first time this has happened in Russia.

Last summer a man in the north-western Vologda region persuaded his friend to bury him in the ground - to help him overcome his fear of death.

He was found dead an hour and a half later, crushed by the weight of the earth.


One way to deal with DA. :shrug:


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: Icelander]
    #14585738 - 06/09/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I'd love to watch. :cool:



Never inviting you to my house. :aweman:


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: NetDiver]
    #14587424 - 06/09/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Samurai Drifter said:
Someday, I am almost certainly going to kill myself.

Not for a lack of loving life, or any nihilistic world view.  I just want to know, conclusively, what it feels like to die. "Curiosity killed the cat," as they say.




News Flash you dont have to kill your self to feel what its like to die.


We all die.:minigun:


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14587620 - 06/09/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

News Flash you dont have to kill your self to feel what its like to die.


No but you do have to die to feel what it's like to die.


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: Icelander]
    #14589515 - 06/10/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Icelander said:
News Flash you dont have to kill your self to feel what its like to die.


No but you do have to die to feel what it's like to die.




Yea so why end the game so fast when there are so many more levels before you have to die?


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14589718 - 06/10/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Icelander said:
News Flash you dont have to kill your self to feel what its like to die.


No but you do have to die to feel what it's like to die.




Yea so why end the game so fast when there are so many more levels before you have to die?




It's all personal preference. However, once you start to experience the pain often associated with approaching your time of death, I have a feeling you may not be so eager to continue the experience of these different "levels".


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14589793 - 06/10/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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ChronicSmoke said:
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Icelander said:
News Flash you dont have to kill your self to feel what its like to die.


No but you do have to die to feel what it's like to die.




Yea so why end the game so fast when there are so many more levels before you have to die?





Better explain that better and with examples as I don't know wtf you are saying.


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: 4896744]
    #14590857 - 06/10/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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iThink said:
Quote:

ChronicSmoke said:
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Icelander said:
News Flash you dont have to kill your self to feel what its like to die.


No but you do have to die to feel what it's like to die.




Yea so why end the game so fast when there are so many more levels before you have to die?




It's all personal preference. However, once you start to experience the pain often associated with approaching your time of death...


Many get over that, and approach their time with humility.


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: Poid]
    #14593247 - 06/10/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Poid said:
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iThink said:
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ChronicSmoke said:
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Icelander said:
News Flash you dont have to kill your self to feel what its like to die.


No but you do have to die to feel what it's like to die.




Yea so why end the game so fast when there are so many more levels before you have to die?




It's all personal preference. However, once you start to experience the pain often associated with approaching your time of death...


Many get over that, and approach their time with humility.




Why should you put yourself through this unnecessary suffering?


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: 4896744]
    #14593266 - 06/10/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It's called depression..some get over it much easier than others, and people experience it for varying reasons.


"There is a light in the end of the tunnel.", "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.", and all that jazz.


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: Poid]
    #14593309 - 06/10/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Poid said:
It's called depression..some get over it much easier than others, and people experience it for varying reasons.


"There is a light in the end of the tunnel.", "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.", and all that jazz.




When you are close to death there isn't anything but complete darkness at the end of the tunnel.


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: 4896744]
    #14593339 - 06/10/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

And I'm saying some people learn to enjoy their final moments as much as possible, and do so humbly. Not everybody is in a rush to die as soon as shit gets awry. :eatingout:


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: 4896744]
    #14593348 - 06/10/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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iThink said:
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Poid said:
It's called depression..some get over it much easier than others, and people experience it for varying reasons.


"There is a light in the end of the tunnel.", "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.", and all that jazz.




When you are close to death there isn't anything but complete darkness at the end of the tunnel.




Darkness is such a trip man.

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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: deranger]
    #14593362 - 06/10/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:chillin:


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: Poid]
    #14593377 - 06/10/11 10:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:trippnballs:

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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: deranger]
    #14593390 - 06/10/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That would work, too. :thumbup:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: Poid]
    #14594877 - 06/11/11 08:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Poid said:
It's called depression..some get over it much easier than others, and people experience it for varying reasons.


"There is a light in the end of the tunnel.", "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.", and all that jazz.





Nonsense poid, you are making a black and white blanket statement. Many suffer depression their whole lives or live as zombies under meds. Sometimes the tunnel just gets darker.


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: Poid]
    #14594882 - 06/11/11 08:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Poid said:
And I'm saying some people learn to enjoy their final moments as much as possible, and do so humbly. Not everybody is in a rush to die as soon as shit gets awry. :eatingout:





Right, "some people".  For the rest suicide is the solution.  If I'm enjoying the dying process all well and good and if not I'll opt out.

'If you have many ideas(options) you will have good ideas" - Moshe Feldenkrais


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Re: Suicide compared to a natural death. [Re: Icelander]
    #14594916 - 06/11/11 08:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Icelander said:
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Poid said:
It's called depression..some get over it much easier than others, and people experience it for varying reasons.


"There is a light in the end of the tunnel.", "Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.", and all that jazz.





Nonsense poid, you are making a black and white blanket statement. Many suffer depression their whole lives or live as zombies under meds. Sometimes the tunnel just gets darker.


I know, I said that some get over it much easier than others..I meant to add that some never do. Those two quoted sayings only apply to people who have a chance at overcoming their depression, I didn't mean to imply that they apply to all people.


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And I'm saying some people learn to enjoy their final moments as much as possible, and do so humbly. Not everybody is in a rush to die as soon as shit gets awry. :eatingout:





Right, "some people".  For the rest suicide is the solution.


Yup, I meant to add in the previous post that some don't get over their depression at all..I guess I excluded it because the point of the post was mainly to show that there is hope for some people who are experiencing suicidal depression.

I was just trying to play devil's advocate against iThink's grim position on the matter. :shrug:


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