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Is spirituality a fad these days?
#14592790 - 06/10/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Whaddaya think?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Poid]
#14592830 - 06/10/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What do you look at spirituality to be?
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Poid]
#14592857 - 06/10/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Spirituality takes dedication and loyalty IMHO. Most people aren't dedicated
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Poid]
#14592859 - 06/10/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said: Whaddaya think? 
I think it's the result of the breakdown of Christianity. That god was/is dying and not good as a shield from death anxiety anymore. so he had to morph into something more encompassing like a new age belief that everything is god and god is all love. While these beliefs have been around for a long time on the fringe but have moved into the mainstream.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Icelander]
#14592913 - 06/10/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OneU said: What do you look at spirituality to be?
I don't really know what it is..everyone seems to have their own idiosyncratic interpretation of what it is. 
Does this prevent you from answering the question, though?
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Poid said: Whaddaya think? 
I think it's the result of the breakdown of Christianity. That god was/is dying and not good as a shield from death anxiety anymore. so he had to morph into something more encompassing like a new age belief that everything is god and god is all love. While these beliefs have been around for a long time on the fringe but have moved into the mainstream.
I totally agree..that pretty much wraps the thread up.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Poid]
#14593646 - 06/10/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think people need a framework to put their experiences into. The contemporary Western materialistic framework is not sufficient for meditators and others who have "mystical", for lack of a better word, experiences. So people end up looking to the wisdom traditions which have survived history, to New Age channels and other places to put their experiences in perspective.
I think for a lot of people it starts out as an obscure interest, until results are achieved through practice. Others are thrown into strange situations and seek out ways to understand it.
I believe we are living in exciting times where, out of necessity, people will become more aware of higher aspects of themselves.
And Spirituality is just a word.
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14593683 - 06/11/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said: I think people need a framework to put their experiences into. The contemporary Western materialistic framework is not sufficient for meditators and others who have "mystical", for lack of a better word, experiences.
I think it has more to do with ignorance regarding the materialistic frameworks..most mystically-inclined individuals I've interacted with here at the Shroomery don't seem to know shit about science. 
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c0sm0nautt said: So people end up looking to the wisdom traditions which have survived history, to New Age channels and other places to put their experiences in perspective.
I think these traditions quell their anxieties, and this is what makes them gravitate towards them..they then try to fit their experiences within the framework of their favorite anxiety-quelling traditions/beliefs.
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c0sm0nautt said: I think for a lot of people it starts out as an obscure interest, until results are achieved through practice. Others are thrown into strange situations and seek out ways to understand it.
What kind of results are you speaking of?
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c0sm0nautt said: I believe we are living in exciting times where, out of necessity, people will become more aware of higher aspects of themselves.
Why is it necessary in these times IYO for people to become more aware of higher aspects of themselves? Which higher aspects are you referring to? Why is it exciting to you that people are becoming more aware (if, in fact, they are)?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Poid]
#14594493 - 06/11/11 05:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It may have taken different forms but if anything has lasted throughout mans history it is spirituality because man can ask the question of what existence is/who am i? Which is the most enduring question we can ask.
Bar sex & food everything else has been a fad
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Chronic7]
#14594551 - 06/11/11 06:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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culture has not been a fad by a long shot.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Chronic7]
#14594574 - 06/11/11 06:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is sad that Western people reject christianity when they stumble upon articles regarding 2012 and the `spiritual evolution` that meant to happen this year and so on.
Actually,when we,say we because I am a westerner too and I have gone through this since I was 8 years old,read the surface of other religions,especially when we have a underlieing rejection of our current religious orientation,we tend to just see the results,the good things. Like when we think of hinduism,we just think about liberation,levitation,achieving a godstate and unity,or when we think of natives we just think that yea they are shamans they work with the spirit world they are cool.
Indeed there is such a rising number of the people intrested in other religious or esoteric practics.But this has been going on since a long time here,in the western civilisation.Yet the occult subject was only studied by advanced scolars,who had studied psychology and religion in-depth before,not by the average internet-surfing guy who finds a article about meditation or occultism practices.
It is not a game to be played by everyone,there is the risk of delusion. However,living in love and devotion to God and the world is a practice for everyone.
It`s good because there will be less lockedminded people,it is bad because many of those who choose the spiritual path end up in just another illusion.
Also,if you like meditation and occult practices,why not study gnosticism.Christianity has it`s occult side,just like every single religion in the world.
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Icelander]
#14594935 - 06/11/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Icelander said: culture has not been a fad by a long shot.
...yet.
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Tony]
#14595060 - 06/11/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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brilliant response
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Poid]
#14595119 - 06/11/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I tend to think religion just fills the void that moving away from tribal life left within humanity. Most people just want to be part of something. It's like football, but your children get molested if you pick the wrong team.
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: blewmeanie]
#14595126 - 06/11/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: I tend to think religion just fills the void that moving away from tribal life left within humanity.
But don't you think many tribal people had their own religions?
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: blewmeanie]
#14595143 - 06/11/11 09:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: It's like football, but your children get molested if you pick the wrong team.
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Poid]
#14595159 - 06/11/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, though I think it was likely far different. It seems to me that religion expanded to fill in all the gaps left behind when people stopped living in such an interdependent way.
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: Poid] 1
#14595179 - 06/11/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, in a lot of cases particularly with young people it is. They dabble in it, never really doing much more but acting like they are master gurus or something.
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: MLDSMDA]
#14595283 - 06/11/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think that's what we all do, "young" or not.

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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: blewmeanie]
#14595763 - 06/11/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think spirituality has a lot do about the mainstream media.
My premise is that the mind cannot tell the difference from what it see's on TV to what it see's in real life 100%
There is essentially a part of our brain that does not understand that the events in tv shows/movies are not based in reality.
Now keep in mind that in movies/tv shows, there is always a spiritual/Moral aspect. One of the major themes that is played out throghout TV/movies is that they generally involve some sort of morality and less evident is the spiritual themes such as Karma/we reap what we soe/miracles.
Take main characters for example; in movies main characters almost always have two qualities; one is that they are moral and the second is that they re unique. Why is this important to spirituality and how it comes about? Well haven't you ever noticed how the main characters always seem to be protected by some force, almost always nearly and miraculously escaping as if protected by a 'higher power'? Isn't it always funny that the hero always seems 'selfless' and interested in the welfare of others? Or dare I say that the hero almost always wants a simple life but ends up being the center of attentions?
To me these themes and my hypothesis that there is a part of the mind that cannot tell the difference between reality and fiction makes these themes become a part of our subconcious....and hence why spirituality always makes more sense over materialism is because a mind inundated with these themes will subconciously be uneasy with moving in a direction of materialism.
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Re: Is spirituality a fad these days? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14595814 - 06/11/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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But morality existed before TV.
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