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Prisoner#1
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EntheogenicPeace said: Pretending that millions have not been killed (& millions more maimed & burned) in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, & SE Asia from U.S. militarism, what crimes did bin Laden & other al Qaeda leaders commit? They themselves didn't commit them, but rather financed, provided arms & training, moral & ideological support & so forth for terrorist acts, exactly the same as the U.S. government did/does.
are we going with a running total? maybe we should arrest the world because you're financing the murder of these people, your parents and grand parents did as well and no country isnt financing it so we're all war criminals, let's all head to The Hague for our trials
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DeadHearts


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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14592242 - 06/10/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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EntheogenicPeace said: Pretending that millions have not been killed (& millions more maimed & burned) in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, & SE Asia from U.S. militarism, what crimes did bin Laden & other al Qaeda leaders commit? They themselves didn't commit them, but rather financed, provided arms & training, moral & ideological support & so forth for terrorist acts, exactly the same as the U.S. government did/does.
are we going with a running total? maybe we should arrest the world because you're financing the murder of these people, your parents and grand parents did as well and no country isnt financing it so we're all war criminals, let's all head to The Hague for our trials
Shit has to stop somewhere. Instead of funding wars and outspending all other counties on defense we should focus on the positive. There are clear and obvious problems with our way of life and government and bla blah we all know blah blah.
Other countries are no better off but damn.
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#14592342 - 06/10/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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EntheogenicPeace said: Pretending that millions have not been killed (& millions more maimed & burned) in places like Iraq, Afghanistan, & SE Asia from U.S. militarism, what crimes did bin Laden & other al Qaeda leaders commit? They themselves didn't commit them, but rather financed, provided arms & training, moral & ideological support & so forth for terrorist acts, exactly the same as the U.S. government did/does.
are we going with a running total? maybe we should arrest the world because you're financing the murder of these people, your parents and grand parents did as well and no country isnt financing it so we're all war criminals, let's all head to The Hague for our trials
We are "financing it" at the barrel of a gun.
Try not paying taxes/resisting.
I can't believe the ends you go to to defend these mobsters.
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Two_Swarm
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14592386 - 06/10/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not saying I agree with the war plans to invade Iraq.. but normally, historically, and empirically, it takes the post war planning commission TWICE the time to plan the after war, than the war itself... Did anyone notice this giant american fallacy around the war in IRaq? Sun Tzu woulda been pissed
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Two_Swarm]
#14592768 - 06/10/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thankfully people like Pris and whoever else made thread not one-sided. Even Iraq veterans aren't gonna be the ones always right.
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DeadHearts


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SprewellSleeve said: Thankfully people like Pris and whoever else made thread not one-sided. Even Iraq veterans aren't gonna be the ones always right.
Including the ones who support the war
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts]
#14592861 - 06/10/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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SprewellSleeve said: Thankfully people like Pris and whoever else made thread not one-sided. Even Iraq veterans aren't gonna be the ones always right.
Including the ones who support the war 
Yes. I'm just tired of seeing America being twisted around as one of the most evil countries in the world.
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SprewellSleeve said: Thankfully people like Pris and whoever else made thread not one-sided. Even Iraq veterans aren't gonna be the ones always right.
Including the ones who support the war 
Yes. I'm just tired of seeing America being twisted around as one of the most evil countries in the world.
Come on man. You need to be asking yourself some serious questions here. Anyone who really sits down and ponders what good this country actually does for the world or even or own people now days you should be able to realize that this country is indeed one of the most "evil" in the world. Although I myself would not use the term evil.
The thing its thats ok. We have been making mistakes for a long time but we can still turn it around for the better if we just take responsibility for the past and for the future.
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DeadHearts


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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts]
#14592949 - 06/10/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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But at the same time its fucking stupid. Its seems to me that we are a long way off from turning things around and Im afraid that we do not have time to be "a long way off" 
Very frustrating.
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts]
#14592966 - 06/10/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said:
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SprewellSleeve said: Thankfully people like Pris and whoever else made thread not one-sided. Even Iraq veterans aren't gonna be the ones always right.
Including the ones who support the war 
Yes. I'm just tired of seeing America being twisted around as one of the most evil countries in the world.
Come on man. You need to be asking yourself some serious questions here. Anyone who really sits down and ponders what good this country actually does for the world or even or own people now days you should be able to realize that this country is indeed one of the most "evil" in the world. Although I myself would not use the term evil.
The thing its thats ok. We have been making mistakes for a long time but we can still turn it around for the better if we just take responsibility for the past and for the future.
I don't see why people jump on America as if this world would be so much better with a different country being the most powerful. There's a lot of shit going on because of America, but it just comes off as "in" to bash it, just like it's "in" to bash Bush for the way he talks and whatever else he did as President even though obama is a moron (not saying I like Bush, I don't follow politicians much at all).
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Two_Swarm
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SprewellSleeve said: Thankfully people like Pris and whoever else made thread not one-sided. Even Iraq veterans aren't gonna be the ones always right.
Including the ones who support the war 
Yes. I'm just tired of seeing America being twisted around as one of the most evil countries in the world.
check your media source... Does being overweight and nuclear armed and ready to burst make America evil? How many other IGO's are involved.....
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts]
#14592979 - 06/10/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said: But at the same time its fucking stupid. Its seems to me that we are a long way off from turning things around and Im afraid that we do not have time to be "a long way off" 
Very frustrating.
Hopefully people start thinking outside of a box. Enough of just two parties running things.
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DeadHearts


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SprewellSleeve said: Thankfully people like Pris and whoever else made thread not one-sided. Even Iraq veterans aren't gonna be the ones always right.
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DeadHearts said: Including the ones who support the war 
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SprewellSleeve said: Yes. I'm just tired of seeing America being twisted around as one of the most evil countries in the world.
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DeadHearts said: Come on man. You need to be asking yourself some serious questions here. Anyone who really sits down and ponders what good this country actually does for the world or even or own people now days you should be able to realize that this country is indeed one of the most "evil" in the world. Although I myself would not use the term evil.
The thing its thats ok. We have been making mistakes for a long time but we can still turn it around for the better if we just take responsibility for the past and for the future.
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SprewellSleeve said: I don't see why people jump on America as if this world would be so much better with a different country being the most powerful. There's a lot of shit going on because of America, but it just comes off as "in" to bash it, just like it's "in" to bash Bush for the way he talks and whatever else he did as President even though obama is a moron (not saying I like Bush, I don't follow politicians much at all).
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DeadHearts said: You say you do not follow politicians. You should try and invest some time in that a little bit if you are interested in whats going on in the world. America is a bad country for many reasons. Sure you can live a somewhat nice peaceful life but that is slowly coming to an end. Invest some of your time in this man. Its worth it, and after that just live that life man.
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts]
#14593217 - 06/10/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey, you may be right on me needing to invest time in it. One of the turn-offs (although I'm not blaming it on this, because this isn't the majority of the reason) is there's so many lies out there that I don't want to waste so much time reading them not knowing if they are or not.
And I know the American government is corrupt, but I'm not gonna say America sucks because of the government. The fact that us knowing this and being against it (and having the freedom to let it be known) shows that the government ISN'T America. Unfortunately for a long time Americans voted in goons, hopefully that changes soon.
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DeadHearts


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SprewellSleeve said: Hey, you may be right on me needing to invest time in it. One of the turn-offs (although I'm not blaming it on this, because this isn't the majority of the reason) is there's so many lies out there that I don't want to waste so much time reading them not knowing if they are or not.
And I know the American government is corrupt, but I'm not gonna say America sucks because of the government. The fact that us knowing this and being against it (and having the freedom to let it be known) shows that the government ISN'T America. Unfortunately for a long time Americans voted in goons, hopefully that changes soon.
Yes, for the most part we can thank our parents and grand parents for some some of it Im sad to say. Even most of us are part of the blame. We let the shit continue over and over again and I suppose you cannot blame the government for taking advantage. But thats why I feel talking with others about this stuff is the only to get some change going.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts]
#14593697 - 06/11/11 12:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said: Shit has to stop somewhere. Instead of funding wars and outspending all other counties on defense we should focus on the positive. There are clear and obvious problems with our way of life and government and bla blah we all know blah blah.
Other countries are no better off but damn.
great talking points, especially the blahblahblah
did you realize that your posts are superficial, there's virtually no substance to them, it's like ordering a dinner and being served a large plate with a few peas on it
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Shins]
#14593706 - 06/11/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shins said: I can't believe the ends you go to to defend these mobsters.
I really wish you guys had some depth to your thought processes, seems that anything I say that contradicts you is defense of some other bullshit, can you show me where I have ever said we needed to be in these wars?
please, show me where I'm defending military action in the middle east
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Two_Swarm
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14593735 - 06/11/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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there's virtually no substance to them, it's like ordering a dinner and being served a large plate with a few peas on it
The bigger the plate, the larger the portion, inless you're a contortionist and know how to distribute portions and sizes of appetite. Oh come on, if only *we(h)* could see the truth.... I mena dang, add some micro-nutrients to your posts.. you need some Vitamin C and multi..
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