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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: kmfdm]
    #14592050 - 06/10/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Therefore the basic units of life for the intake of light in the organism of homosapien is N,N-DMT. And the basic units of life for regulating your input of darkness is Melatonin.



You be tripping. What evidence do you have to support this bizarre conclusion? You can't even properly spell homo sapiens. Nothing you just said makes any sense.



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Thank you for admitting your lack of will to discover the knowledge necessary to have a full fledged scientific debate on the speculated function of DMT.



What level of school did you finish mr. scientist? Did you complete secondary/high school? Do you have a bachelor (of science), masters or PhD? Are you performing graduate level scientific research at a university? What are your credentials (and evidence) to claim that your insane ramblings are scientific?

You haven't debated with anyone. When confronted with the nature of your unbased conjecture, you fail to comprehend the reply and provide some new incomprehensible rant as retort. When you learn the basics of science, rational argument, logic and English perhaps you can engage in discussion on DMT.


I never even had the chance to finish grade 10 in high school due to a host of environmental factors such as physical sickness and parental negligence. I do not have a bachelors, masters, or PhD. Nor am I performing graduate level scientific research at a university. I have no credentials besides my inherent human identity and the evidence is the research in which mankind has partaken in up until this point.

If you could please explain and justify your accusation of my ramblings  not being scientific with scientific reasoning as to why my ramblings are unscientific, I would be glad to listen.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14592064 - 06/10/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hopefully he can jam five years worth of education into a single post. :yesnod:


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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14592073 - 06/10/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"I never even had the chance to finish grade 10 in high school due to a host of environmental factors such as physical sickness and parental negligence. I do not have a bachelors, masters, or PhD. Nor am I performing graduate level scientific research at a university. I have no credentials besides my inherent human identity and the evidence is the research in which mankind has partaken in up until this point.

If you could please explain and justify your accusation of my ramblings  not being scientific with scientific reasoning as to why my ramblings are unscientific, I would be glad to listen." 

It's because they aren't based on actual observations of the brain.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx] * 1
    #14592081 - 06/10/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

But they ARE actual ramblings. :yesnod2:


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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14592092 - 06/10/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What did this person ever do to you? These posts never hurt anyone. At least this person is trying, which is more than you can say most of the time.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx]
    #14592101 - 06/10/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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But they ARE actual ramblings. :yesnod2:



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"I never even had the chance to finish grade 10 in high school due to a host of environmental factors such as physical sickness and parental negligence. I do not have a bachelors, masters, or PhD. Nor am I performing graduate level scientific research at a university. I have no credentials besides my inherent human identity and the evidence is the research in which mankind has partaken in up until this point.

If you could please explain and justify your accusation of my ramblings  not being scientific with scientific reasoning as to why my ramblings are unscientific, I would be glad to listen." 

It's because they aren't based on actual observations of the brain.




They are based on scientific observations of the brain as well as correlation of all events of human history.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx]
    #14592102 - 06/10/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

There is no try; only do! :yoda:


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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14592124 - 06/10/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"They are based on scientific observations of the brain as well as correlation of all events of human history. "

Let's start with this part. What studies?

"They are based on scientific observations of the brain as well as correlation of all events of human history. "

Now for this part. What can correlation teach you about relations between things in reality? What if a meteor strikes when you brush your teeth three days in a row? Does that mean brushing your teeth makes meteors strike?

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14592133 - 06/10/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well this person has gone out and done shit for this idea of theirs. What ideas of yours have you pursued enough to have the guts to talk to strangers about them in person?

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK] * 1
    #14593035 - 06/10/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If you could please explain and justify your accusation of my ramblings  not being scientific with scientific reasoning as to why my ramblings are unscientific, I would be glad to listen.





They strike me as pretty speculative without much direct evidence and attempting to incorporate some known facts in an ad hoc fashion.


I didn't read your post that carefully, so I apologize if this was covered, but what exactly is your thesis here in like one sentence?  What observable consequences to your hypothesis are there that while presently unobserved could be tested and confirmed to support or disproved to reject your hypothesis?

I'm trying to see what the actual relevance of this idea of yours being true is and whether its more than simply a conceptual ideas more akin to a philosophy than a scientific hypothesis.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: andrewss]
    #14593209 - 06/10/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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she shouldnt huv smoked dat ish, we all know what happens when ya do ya get all  :wtfsonic:  :dizope:




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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: johnm214]
    #14593681 - 06/11/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If you could please explain and justify your accusation of my ramblings  not being scientific with scientific reasoning as to why my ramblings are unscientific, I would be glad to listen.





They strike me as pretty speculative without much direct evidence and attempting to incorporate some known facts in an ad hoc fashion.


I didn't read your post that carefully, so I apologize if this was covered, but what exactly is your thesis here in like one sentence?  What observable consequences to your hypothesis are there that while presently unobserved could be tested and confirmed to support or disproved to reject your hypothesis?

I'm trying to see what the actual relevance of this idea of yours being true is and whether its more than simply a conceptual ideas more akin to a philosophy than a scientific hypothesis.


It is using the current information we know on Neuroscience, spirituality, and the roles of DMT and Melatonin.

It is an extrapolation that DMT is the hormone of light. This would give us a physiological reason for DMT being within the pineal gland. That when melatonin is excreted from the pineal gland, it is due to DMT entering the pineal gland.

Also understanding lights true role in biology.

What does light stimulate prior to physical form?

Light stimulates Dualism. The relationship between sound and vibration.

It does this through activating two identical geomtric shapes and two simple mathematical equations. The identical shape being the triangle. Each triangle requires to be nested to itself in order to be conscious. When on their own, they are statically omniprescent, or unconscious. These unconscious shapes combined create the blueprint for a three dimensional universe.

Which mathematical equations are attached to them? 0 and 18. Growth and Protection.

Zero: The Fibonacci Sequence; The Right Brain; Sound; Unconscious; Conscious; Light; Gravity
Illogical, Intuitive, Random Data
0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89, etc

These are the resonate values in which growth chose to map it's purpose. To interrupt protection through influence of sound. The string of values extends infinitely unless with it's partner equation Protection. Due to the infinite nature of this pattern, light can be represented with this pattern.

Protection: The Response Sequence; The Left Brain; Vibration; Conscious; Unconscious; Dark; Stars
Sequential, Logical, Analytical Data

0,18,18,36,54,90,144,234,378,612,990

These are the static values in which protection chose to map it's purpose. To limit sound through the influence of vibration. The adding of two values to limit sound to resonate between. Due to the infinite nature of this pattern, light can be represented with this pattern.

These two holy numbers religiously represent far too much for me to go into detail at the very moment. Though mathematically they are the only two numbers which the sum of itself is half it's decimal digits.

0+0=0
1+8=9

This shows the crucifixion of christ and the symbolism of jesus dying for our sins is referring to the dualism of biology and math. A cross was stuck inbetween the two concepts and himself, and he left his physical body upon the cross and shed light all throughout the universe. The mathematical forumals and their correlation are what create the information for a triangle to gain the ability to nest with itself. Or kill it's old self.  When a triangle leaves two dimensional awareness to attain third dimensional awareness, god said let there be light. It killed it's self (which is half of it's self), and formed a circle of light around the triangle.

This sets the precent for the creation of sacred geometry, as well as the biological functions of Time Mass and Density.

This set of images shows the math and shape of Zero and Protection apart from each other. As well as the result of them interacting, creating the information for two triangles to nest and realize they are one.

Growth realized it needed to create stars to protect itself.
Protection realized it needed to host stars to grow.

Stars are what the universe uses as a biological tool of resonance. These stars statically resonate with themselves and cause growth. Influencing itself to influence the continuation of the growth cycle of ONE universe.

Before Sound and Vibration:



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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14593739 - 06/11/11 12:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What about blind people?

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx]
    #14593749 - 06/11/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've been curious about this myself. My girlfriend has had Ocular Melanoma and as a result has lost the vision in her left eye.

Wish I knew.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14593800 - 06/11/11 12:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What about people without eyes? How would their DMT stuff work according to you?

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx]
    #14593856 - 06/11/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx]
    #14601013 - 06/12/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What about people without eyes? How would their DMT stuff work according to you?


I don't know I have my eyes.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14602546 - 06/12/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well according to you they would be missing a lot of shit, right? So are people without eyes mentally deficient?

Edited by xFrockx (06/12/11 07:54 PM)

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: johnm214]
    #14602640 - 06/12/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What observable consequences to your hypothesis are there that while presently unobserved could be tested and confirmed to support or disproved to reject your hypothesis?




I don't believe you've addressed this.  If you could answer it would be appreciated.  I'm having trouble understanding what the observable consequences of this idea are, or if its just a philosophy or metaphysical perspective.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: johnm214]
    #14606470 - 06/13/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What observable consequences to your hypothesis are there that while presently unobserved could be tested and confirmed to support or disproved to reject your hypothesis?




I don't believe you've addressed this.  If you could answer it would be appreciated.  I'm having trouble understanding what the observable consequences of this idea are, or if its just a philosophy or metaphysical perspective.




There are several things within the lab that can be tested to prove or disprove this hypothesis.


Cease the production of DMT within an organism in these ways:

Genetically prior to birth -> Observe Growth and Collect Data
MAOI therapy during gestation -> Observe Growth and Collect Data
MAOI therapy after birth -> Observe Growth and Collect Data
Cease production imminently -> Observe Growth and Collect Data

Measure how environmental conditions such as light effect the levels of DMT and Melatonin.

Measure how nutritional conditions such as lack of or abundance of L-tryptophan attribute to DMT levels within the organism.

Organism left within:

High light conditions/high stress (High levels of DMT, Migraine, Schizotypical)

Low light conditions/ (High levels of Melatonin, lethargy, depression)


The observable consequence is to prove that DMT is actively transported from the Pineal in the opposite fashion as Melatonin as a part of an organisms regulation of light. 

This can be done by comparing data from the observations above, and drawing conclusions based off the tested organisms and their untested counterparts.

Edited by NikoK (06/13/11 02:18 PM)

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