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Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ...
    #14590813 - 06/10/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Tell me that is not true?

Let us discuss this? What is this forum for; if not to debate a topic? ...


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp]
    #14590976 - 06/10/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Primal Glitch]
    #14591009 - 06/10/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp]
    #14591015 - 06/10/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp]
    #14591094 - 06/10/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Tell me that is not true?


Not only is it not true, it doesn't make a lick of fucking sense.


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Poid]
    #14591216 - 06/10/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

No one here makes less sense than Gomp. He's the champ.:thumbup:


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Primal Glitch]
    #14591305 - 06/10/11 04:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Just sad .. Sad justice ...


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Poid]
    #14591316 - 06/10/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Gomp said:
Tell me that is not true?


Not only is it not true, it doesn't make a lick of fucking sense.




No; it does really not make sense.. We humans, tend to "make sense" of things.. You 'DIG'!? .. . . . . :crazy2:


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp]
    #14591325 - 06/10/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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We humans, tend to "make sense" of things.


Some of us tend to not "make sense" at all. :wink:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp]
    #14592397 - 06/10/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Gomp said:
Tell me that is not true?

Let us discuss this? What is this forum for; if not to debate a topic? ...




If it trully is nothing then it's realisation would be wrong.

However in order for it to have a realisation, or for us to talk about it, it still must be something.

NEvertheless, it might be the sort of thing that is not captured by any coherent concept.

Thus there might be 'something' (in the loose, vague sense of an existance) which is in fact 'nothing' (in the concrete, definable sense). It realises its vague existance yet still has no conceptual essence.

What still makes no sense to me is why the nothing 'starts out' at its point of realisation.

Unless, Its vague realisation is itself the act of realising something.

That kinda makes sense. In this interpretation, the proto-universe 'starts to be' the existant-universe when it realises its existance, but its existance is never a 'thing' because 'thing' only ever refers to perceptual patterns that exist within its total vague existance.

the total existance is vague because there is nothing to compare it/contrast it/ define it against. No realisation within the universe would ever access the realm that the proto-universe stems from

but really this is quite heavy, hard to define, and perhaps not the sort of thing you were originally thinking of at all


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Noteworthy] * 1
    #14592415 - 06/10/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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but really this is quite heavy, hard to define, and perhaps not the sort of thing you were originally thinking of at all


:thumbup:

I personally can't believe you got anything whatsoever from that. :shrug2:


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Icelander]
    #14592476 - 06/10/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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No one here makes less sense than Gomp. He's the champ.:thumbup:







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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: andrewss]
    #14592485 - 06/10/11 08:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:ilold:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Poid]
    #14599537 - 06/12/11 05:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Gomp said:
We humans, tend to "make sense" of things.


Some of us tend to not "make sense" at all. :wink:




Some make sense of what other say..

Some crave that other people shall make sense for them..

"Some make sense with other people, others do not.."
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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Noteworthy]
    #14599548 - 06/12/11 05:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Gomp said:
Tell me that is not true?

Let us discuss this? What is this forum for; if not to debate a topic? ...




If it trully is nothing then it's realisation would be wrong.

However in order for it to have a realisation, or for us to talk about it, it still must be something.

NEvertheless, it might be the sort of thing that is not captured by any coherent concept.

Thus there might be 'something' (in the loose, vague sense of an existance) which is in fact 'nothing' (in the concrete, definable sense). It realises its vague existance yet still has no conceptual essence.

What still makes no sense to me is why the nothing 'starts out' at its point of realisation.

Unless, Its vague realisation is itself the act of realising something.

That kinda makes sense. In this interpretation, the proto-universe 'starts to be' the existant-universe when it realises its existance, but its existance is never a 'thing' because 'thing' only ever refers to perceptual patterns that exist within its total vague existance.

the total existance is vague because there is nothing to compare it/contrast it/ define it against. No realisation within the universe would ever access the realm that the proto-universe stems from

but really this is quite heavy, hard to define, and perhaps not the sort of thing you were originally thinking of at all






Nothing is not a thing.. Nothing is a constant that does not exist. That constant however can by simply not being anything; be everything.

So nothing ends; where nothing starts...

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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp]
    #14599553 - 06/12/11 05:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Oh yeah, this thread. :stoned:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp]
    #14599561 - 06/12/11 05:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:paperbag: Gomp, you're a HUGE genius:whoa:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Edited by Icelander (06/12/11 05:42 AM)


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Poid]
    #14599665 - 06/12/11 06:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Oh yeah, this thread. :stoned:




Why you choose that nick?

Poid?

That is part of my wireless router password.. :laugh:


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp]
    #14599681 - 06/12/11 06:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It was the name of that parrot in my sig..I've been using it as a screen name (for things like e-mail, AIM, MySpace, etc.) for a while now.





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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Poid]
    #14600616 - 06/12/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I like Gomp's posts.

I think here he's saying that everything we do is totally random yet we take it SUPER SRSLY.

:wtfsonic:


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp] * 1
    #14602656 - 06/12/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:gompthread:


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: NetDiver]
    #14610804 - 06/14/11 08:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Samurai Drifter said:
I like Gomp's posts.

I think here he's saying that everything we do is totally random yet we take it SUPER SRSLY.

:wtfsonic:




I said what I said.. Nothing more, nothing less..

What people are allowed to read in to it, is what makes this my style of posting..

There is a topic, but most ignore it.. ;p


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp] * 1
    #14610831 - 06/14/11 08:27 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So you are trollin'?

By that I mean, you post these things with the intention of catching people trying to argue for or against them?


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: xFrockx]
    #14615667 - 06/15/11 02:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

isnt that what this forum is all about


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Noteworthy]
    #14617017 - 06/15/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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isnt that what this forum is all about




I post to converse with people about a given topic. :laugh:


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp]
    #14619535 - 06/15/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

well youre meant to be debating and arguing and fighting and shit. possibly discussing. get to it!


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Noteworthy] * 2
    #14619716 - 06/15/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Gomp?:rofl2:


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Noteworthy]
    #14627822 - 06/17/11 12:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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well youre meant to be debating and arguing and fighting and shit. possibly discussing. get to it!




Why?


(And by that; I did!?) :monkeydance:


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: johnm214] * 1
    #14627851 - 06/17/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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:gompthread:




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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: Gomp]
    #14627891 - 06/17/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Tell me that is not true?

Let us discuss this? What is this forum for; if not to debate a topic? ...




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Re: Where the end of nothing realizes that it is something; is where the nothing starts out! ... [Re: 4896744]
    #14659673 - 06/23/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

Gomp said:
Tell me that is not true?

Let us discuss this? What is this forum for; if not to debate a topic? ...




:yuno:






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