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Invisiblesilversoul7
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Vietnam War
    #1458900 - 04/15/03 12:47 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I know it was a long time ago, so it's not that relevant, but I just watched a movie about this war, and I was wondering if anyone here feels that that war was justified, and if so, why?


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: silversoul7]
    #1459002 - 04/15/03 01:35 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think anyone feels that war was justified, but I'm sure if we had won, it would have been justified. That's the way war works.

The wars we win are the right wars.
The wars we lose are the wrong wars...


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: silversoul7]
    #1459233 - 04/15/03 03:41 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Check out what history has to say about the Gulf of Tonkin incident. It was used to justify the war but has proven to have been falsified. It proves the war was unjustified.


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1459278 - 04/15/03 04:03 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

That's interesting. It often starts with a lie.
First gulf war - satellites pictures of iraqui troops on the border with Saudi Arabia prepared to attack, WMD of the last war, military airport runway built by Cuban workers in Granada, ...


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: silversoul7]
    #1459292 - 04/15/03 04:12 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

You've heard it all before, stopping the spread of Communism, etc...

Maybe someone else, someone a little more honest would say it helped to put a fucking ton of money into the military, which ensures the safety of America or some such nonsense.


A military does wonders to further a ruling class's world agenda...

Blah...Blah...Blah...


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: carbonhoots]
    #1460234 - 04/15/03 02:17 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

What movie did you watch?

My favorite is Platoon.


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: pattern]
    #1460240 - 04/15/03 02:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

We Were Soldiers

I liked it because of the way they portrayed both sides of the conflict.


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: silversoul7]
    #1460253 - 04/15/03 02:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It had some good elements. I also liked how they showed the Americans using outdated tactics, firing into the jungle when they showed up.

I will never watch that movie again tho. I kept falling asleep during the overplayed wife subplot.


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: pattern]
    #1461662 - 04/15/03 09:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

no, it was just bullshit american imperialism, the war only did damage to the human race....alot of fuckin damage. it did produce alot of kickass films though....hmmmm...so maybe it was all worth it.


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1462046 - 04/15/03 11:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

yup, we lost the war.

"we" meaning humanity...


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: pattern]
    #1462811 - 04/16/03 03:26 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

My favorite is Platoon.




My favorite is Apocalypse Now. It shows the total nonsense of the war. Escpecially the scene where they attack a village because the beach there has nice waves for surfing.
Quote: (as napalm is dropped on the beautiful rain forest) "I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like... victory!"


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: zeronio]
    #1462908 - 04/16/03 05:05 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

americans dropped napalm in iraq, that is a confirmed yet unreported fact


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1463330 - 04/16/03 11:38 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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americans dropped napalm in iraq, that is a confirmed yet unreported fact



If it's unreported, how did you come to know about it?


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: Evolving]
    #1463566 - 04/16/03 01:32 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Because it was reported. It just isn't a big enough deal to report over and over and over.


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: z@z.com]
    #1463579 - 04/16/03 01:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Because it was reported. It just isn't a big enough deal to report over and over and over.



Then saying it's an unreported fact is foolish.


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Re: Vietnam War [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1464076 - 04/16/03 04:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

What a whitty and insightful conclusion! im glad your here to piece these things together for me. :cool:


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