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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14583196 - 06/09/11 02:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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physicist said:
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Silversoul said:
I suspect most Americans are more intelligent than the vocal minority would have you believe.  If you watch the news, you'd think that Americans are all a bunch of angry, loud-mouthed Tea Partiers.  Just like if you spend all your time in internet forums you'd think Ron Paul would be a shoe-in for the presidency.

No, I don't think that voter stupidity is a sufficient explanation for the problems we have in our country(I'm not saying it doesn't play a role).  I think our stem much more from an election system which involves corporate fundraising.  I mean, it used to be that Democrats raised money from unions while Republicans raised money from corporations, so at least you had two real competing interest groups.  But then the unions got dismantled under Reagan, and now both sides rely on the corporations for money.  And after Citizens United, it's only going to get worse.  I think it's time we had publicly financed elections. Or at the very least, we should limit campaign financing to only small donations from individuals and ban collective entities from donating.





QFT Said very well.




paul wants the federal government out of state laws..

who else is for that? no one.

him getting elected it is too good to be true however

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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: the human abstract] * 1
    #14583215 - 06/09/11 02:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Americans are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.

The elites conspire to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.

You have been lied to since the day you were born for this very reason.




... A prison for you mind.


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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
    #14583218 - 06/09/11 02:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:waits:


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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
    #14585269 - 06/09/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Shins said:
Americans are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.

The elites conspire to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.

You have been lied to since the day you were born for this very reason.




... A prison for you mind.



QFT

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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
    #14585342 - 06/09/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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weedist said:
ok people, im going to share a story here. take it as you will.

6 months ago, i got in a horriffic car accident and ended up breaking my back. L1 disk to be exact. I had insurance and was able to get the best doctor available to operate on me. one week after the crash i was already walking. Now skip forward a few weeks to when the bills start coming in. $400,000 roughly. thats a lot of god damn cash money. but i only paid $7,000 because i had insurance. the system works dude.





Here's how I took it.

If you didn't have insurance like a lot of Americans, you'd be either 400,000 in debt or have a broken back


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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shroomism]
    #14588576 - 06/10/11 12:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
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weedist said:
ok people, im going to share a story here. take it as you will.

6 months ago, i got in a horriffic car accident and ended up breaking my back. L1 disk to be exact. I had insurance and was able to get the best doctor available to operate on me. one week after the crash i was already walking. Now skip forward a few weeks to when the bills start coming in. $400,000 roughly. thats a lot of god damn cash money. but i only paid $7,000 because i had insurance. the system works dude.





Here's how I took it.

If you didn't have insurance like a lot of Americans, you'd be either 400,000 in debt or have a broken back



just like to point out that less than a sixth of americans dont have health insurance. besides is that not what obama is trying to fix?


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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
    #14588588 - 06/10/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Shins said:
Americans are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.

The elites conspire to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.

You have been lied to since the day you were born for this very reason.




... A prison for you mind.




Conspiracy theorists are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.

Alex Jones conspires to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.

You have been lied to since the day you tuned in to Alex Jones for this very reason.


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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Newlord]
    #14588612 - 06/10/11 12:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Newlord said:
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Shins said:
Americans are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.

The elites conspire to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.

You have been lied to since the day you were born for this very reason.




... A prison for you mind.




Conspiracy theorists are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.

Alex Jones conspires to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.

You have been lied to since the day you tuned in to Alex Jones for this very reason.




I don't listen to Alex Jones.

Many well respected, professional conspiracy theorists are involved with the judicial system.

hint; prosecutors are conspiracy theorists.


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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
    #14588615 - 06/10/11 12:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I do agree however, that Alex jones is designed to keep "conspiracy theorists" stupid.


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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
    #14588627 - 06/10/11 01:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Shins said:

I don't listen to Alex Jones.

Many well respected, professional conspiracy theorists are involved with the judicial system.

hint; prosecutors are conspiracy theorists.




Then how is it that you end up parroting his exact rhetoric?

Who?

No, they aren't.

Conspiracy Theory - A conspiracy theory is a fringe theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by exceptionally powerful and cunning conspirators to achieve a malevolent end.


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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: skatealex2]
    #14588649 - 06/10/11 01:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Anyone ever realize most of american society is stupid as hell?


:hypnotic:





yeah... they voted democrat in 2008

they also voted republican

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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist] * 2
    #14588664 - 06/10/11 01:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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the best Most expensive health care...



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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Silversoul]
    #14588665 - 06/10/11 01:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I mean, it used to be that Democrats raised money from unions
But then the unions got dismantled under Reagan,





UAW, Teamsters, SEIU, etc... obviously the unions are alive and well and donating to the democratic party

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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Newlord] * 1
    #14588671 - 06/10/11 01:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Shins said:

I don't listen to Alex Jones.

Many well respected, professional conspiracy theorists are involved with the judicial system.

hint; prosecutors are conspiracy theorists.




Then how is it that you end up parroting his exact rhetoric?

Who?

No, they aren't.

Conspiracy Theory - A conspiracy theory is a fringe theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by exceptionally powerful and cunning conspirators to achieve a malevolent end.





You are such a troll.


con·spir·a·cy

1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
2. A group of conspirators.
3. Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
4. A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design

If you do not think the above definition never takes place in this world then
you are the one that should be wearing a tinfoil hat broseph.

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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14588685 - 06/10/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I just think that if Shins spent less time berating the stupidity of the "sheeple" masses and more time explaining why he talks the way he does, it would be easier to listen to and take seriously his positions.

Not trying to flame here, just some (hopefully) constructive criticism.


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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Newlord]
    #14588686 - 06/10/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Newlord said:
Quote:

Shins said:

I don't listen to Alex Jones.

Many well respected, professional conspiracy theorists are involved with the judicial system.

hint; prosecutors are conspiracy theorists.




Then how is it that you end up parroting his exact rhetoric?

Who?

No, they aren't.

Conspiracy Theory - A conspiracy theory is a fringe theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by exceptionally powerful and cunning conspirators to achieve a malevolent end.




I have never seen so many negative connotations crammed into a single paragraph. A conspiracy theory Is actually a theoretical explanation of a situation which conspiracy is completely within the realm of possibility. Conspiracy, which is by definition a back door deal made between two or more people that affects your life.

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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14588694 - 06/10/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Tchan909 said:
I just think that if Shins spent less time berating the stupidity of the "sheeple" masses and more time explaining why he talks the way he does, it would be easier to listen to and take seriously his positions.





Doesnt matter. Our homeboy Newlord's comment was stupid :shrug:
Posting a "definition" that someone made up from Wikipedia to
make shins look bad.

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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14588696 - 06/10/11 01:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Why is "definition" in quotes? It seems like a perfectly serviceable definition to me. No doubt conspiracies are real and happen all the time, but this does not make every conspiracy theory true. Many of them are contradictory and most of them are bulllshit.

:2cents:


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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14588697 - 06/10/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Conspiratists = CIa,Nsa,fbi,fox channel,Cnn,Exxon,chevron,British petroleum,microsoft,Federal reserve,etc....

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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Vsnares.Zappa]
    #14588702 - 06/10/11 01:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

IMO they're not really conspirators, they're just "elites." They don't hide their "conspiracy," it's all above the table. It works because they nurture our passivity.

There, I summed it up perfectly without resorting to name-calling or bullshit rhetoric.


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