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Humility
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14587017 - 06/09/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Humility said: Pris I have the feeling that if someone you cared about got shot you'd quit your collateral damage rationalizing.
no relevance what so ever to the discussion
How is it not relevant? I'm saying that if you were personally involved in a conflict and you suffered as a result of someone else's "mistake" I highly doubt you'd be willing to be as non-chalant about things as you are when it's some story about some people some place thousands of miles away.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts]
#14587077 - 06/09/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've never watched the O'Reilly factor and the total time I have spent watching Fox News probably does not amount to one hour. Everyday the NY Times is dropped on my doorstep and I read it almost entire. This debate has been made over and over again in the proper forum in which both sides have weighed in FOR YEARS. Why do people insist on posting this shit in the Pub? Why don't the mods immediately move them out?
If thats the case then the pub's name should be changed to something else.
This is where most of the people of the site choose to spend their time and thus their posts are seen by more people. Duhhh!
Why have forums at all, then?
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DeadHearts


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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: zappaisgod]
#14587094 - 06/09/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've never watched the O'Reilly factor and the total time I have spent watching Fox News probably does not amount to one hour. Everyday the NY Times is dropped on my doorstep and I read it almost entire. This debate has been made over and over again in the proper forum in which both sides have weighed in FOR YEARS. Why do people insist on posting this shit in the Pub? Why don't the mods immediately move them out?
If thats the case then the pub's name should be changed to something else.
This is where most of the people of the site choose to spend their time and thus their posts are seen by more people. Duhhh!
Why have forums at all, then?
Ohhh the horror!!!
Truth is no matter where this is posted the facts remain the same. War is bullshit. Especially when it is being carried out by our current American system.
I will never understand why some people hate on others for hating on war. Its just terrible all around.
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pfxtc
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts] 2
#14587165 - 06/09/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Hey buddy, my daddy died for that flag."
"Really? I bought mine. Yeah, they sell 'em at K-Mart."
"He died in Korea!"
"Wow, what a coincidence. Mine was made in Korea."
No one—and I repeat, no one—has ever died for a flag. See, a flag is just a piece of cloth. They may have died for freedom, which is also the freedom to burn the f*ckin' flag.
-------------------- koods said: Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus. Life-long trip report
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zappaisgod
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts] 2
#14587174 - 06/09/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said:
Ohhh the horror!!!
Truth is no matter where this is posted the facts remain the same. War is bullshit. Especially when it is being carried out by our current American system.
I will never understand why some people hate on others for hating on war. Its just terrible all around.
I hate war too, honey. It really sucks. You know what else sucks? Police and prisons. That doesn't mean we should stop having them. There are really really shitty people out there and it aint us. Sometimes an obligation is thrust upon you. Adults know this.
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DeadHearts


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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: zappaisgod]
#14587185 - 06/09/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ohhh the horror!!!
Truth is no matter where this is posted the facts remain the same. War is bullshit. Especially when it is being carried out by our current American system.
I will never understand why some people hate on others for hating on war. Its just terrible all around.
I hate war too, honey. It really sucks. You know what else sucks? Police and prisons. That doesn't mean we should stop having them. There are really really shitty people out there and it aint us. Sometimes an obligation is thrust upon you. Adults know this.
We need police yes. We do not need as many prisons as we have thats for damn sure. The numbers of non violent criminals in this country is insane! Thanks mainly to the current war at home.
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DieCommie

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: pfxtc]
#14587197 - 06/09/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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pfxtc said: "Hey buddy, my daddy died for that flag."
"Really? I bought mine. Yeah, they sell 'em at K-Mart."
"He died in Korea!"
"Wow, what a coincidence. Mine was made in Korea."
No one—and I repeat, no one—has ever died for a flag. See, a flag is just a piece of cloth. They may have died for freedom, which is also the freedom to burn the f*ckin' flag.
You dont get symbolism do you?
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DeadHearts


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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DieCommie]
#14587198 - 06/09/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DieCommie said:
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pfxtc said: "Hey buddy, my daddy died for that flag."
"Really? I bought mine. Yeah, they sell 'em at K-Mart."
"He died in Korea!"
"Wow, what a coincidence. Mine was made in Korea."
No one—and I repeat, no one—has ever died for a flag. See, a flag is just a piece of cloth. They may have died for freedom, which is also the freedom to burn the f*ckin' flag.
You dont get symbolism do you?

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Prisoner#1
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Humility]
#14587491 - 06/09/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Humility said: Pris I have the feeling that if someone you cared about got shot you'd quit your collateral damage rationalizing.
no relevance what so ever to the discussion
How is it not relevant? I'm saying that if you were personally involved in a conflict and you suffered as a result of someone else's "mistake" I highly doubt you'd be willing to be as non-chalant about things as you are when it's some story about some people some place thousands of miles away.
I really dont grasp the point you're trying to make as it's out in left field in regard to the topic, I've lost friends to a sniper's bullet, seen people I cared about killed by artillery, I've seen children go through some of the most horrific treatment humans can devise and most were civilians. do you think this had no effect on me? these people were not collateral, they were targets. it wasnt a case when a few bullets went astray, or shelling coordinates were a little off, these were people targeted deliberately by the JNA
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thescientist
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14588238 - 06/09/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think your full of it. I think 95% of everything you write is made up on the spot.
If I'm wrong, your either omniscient or plainly, the harbinger of all truth.
Your welcome.
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Kada
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: thescientist]
#14588249 - 06/09/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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thescientist said: I think your full of it. I think 95% of everything you write is made up on the spot.
If I'm wrong, your either omniscient or plainly, the harbinger of all truth.
Your welcome.
His facts are usually 100% right on. You just don't like his view points.
I don't most of the time either, but it's fun to watch him argue himself the winner.
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Newlord
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: pfxtc] 1
#14588260 - 06/09/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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pfxtc said:
"Hey buddy, my daddy died for that flag."
"Really? I bought mine. Yeah, they sell 'em at K-Mart."
"He died in Korea!"
"Wow, what a coincidence. Mine was made in Korea."
No one—and I repeat, no one—has ever died for a flag. See, a flag is just a piece of cloth. They may have died for freedom, which is also the freedom to burn the f*ckin' flag.
Oh wow, some guy quoting Bill Hicks in an attempt to sound intelligent. Too bad Bill Hicks was a fucking moron
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thescientist
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Kada] 2
#14588291 - 06/09/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I respectfully disagree with your 1st point, and fully agree with the last 2. He consistently reduces the overall quality of this site for myself and certainly many others through his relentlessness and domineering presence.
I'm getting quite tired of it. Coaster wouldn't even be this bad as a mod.
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DeadHearts


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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Newlord]
#14588308 - 06/09/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Newlord said:
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pfxtc said:
"Hey buddy, my daddy died for that flag."
"Really? I bought mine. Yeah, they sell 'em at K-Mart."
"He died in Korea!"
"Wow, what a coincidence. Mine was made in Korea."
No one—and I repeat, no one—has ever died for a flag. See, a flag is just a piece of cloth. They may have died for freedom, which is also the freedom to burn the f*ckin' flag.
Oh wow, some guy quoting Bill Hicks in an attempt to sound intelligent. Too bad Bill Hicks was a fucking moron 
What an epic failure of a post.
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AlphaFalfa
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#14588549 - 06/10/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said: WHY WERE THEY USING DEPLETED URANIUM
WHY IS IT USED IN CONCRETE IN THE US?
In VERY FEW applications does it get used in concrete.
Why did my brother need creams for a disease that he healed with a dietary change???
Because the doctors don't know any better.
We've been through this Prisoner.
No need to get into or all over it again.
Let it be.
Okay, bud.
Anything else though?
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EntheogenicPeace
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14590522 - 06/10/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14590741 - 06/10/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said: WHY WERE THEY USING DEPLETED URANIUM
WHY IS IT USED IN CONCRETE IN THE US?
In VERY FEW applications does it get used in concrete.
I worked with it, thousands of cubic yards, that's hundreds of thousands of tons of DUcrete, no adverse health problems
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Why did my brother need creams for a disease that he healed with a dietary change???
Because the doctors don't know any better.
ok, so doctards dont know any better, what's that tell you about the count of casualties in the lancet survey and their claims about depleted uranium
now what's it got to do with iraq vets wanting the US out of iraq
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Prisoner#1
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EntheogenicPeace said: If we support it (i.e. fund, arm, & even train the forces carrying it out) when it suits our political & economic interests, how are we better than the Serbs who were committing similar crimes?
what are the crimes the US is committing
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DeadHearts


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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14590862 - 06/10/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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EntheogenicPeace said: If we support it (i.e. fund, arm, & even train the forces carrying it out) when it suits our political & economic interests, how are we better than the Serbs who were committing similar crimes?
what are the crimes the US is committing
Im sure there are plenty. And there are a lot of people who would agree. Heres one.
MPs Call for Arrests of Kissinger, Cheney, Bush at 2011 Bilderberg Conference (Suedostschweiz, Switzerland)
According to this article from Switzerland’s Suedostschweiz, which includes a letter from Swiss MP Dominique Baettig calling for the arrest of U.S. officials, the group is rumored to be meeting in St. Moritz, Switzerland – starting today.
According to a letter on the Bilderberg conference addressed to Simonetta Sommaruga, a National Council member and head of the Jura Police Department, Jura representative Dominique Baettig is calling for the arrest of conference participants who are internationally wanted for war crimes (George W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, Dick Cheney, and Richard Perle). Based on the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, such action is called for when a country makes a referral or response to an initiative by the U.N. Security Council, or by its own prosecuting authority.
The following is an excerpt from an e-mail sent on May 9th by National Council Representative Dominique Baettig to Justice Minister Barbara Janom-Steiner:
Dear Mrs. Janom-Steiner,
I write to you as a citizen in a democracy to inform you, as the responsible government representative, of my concerns referenced above.
Therefore, it would be good if you would first familiarize yourself with my letter to Federal Counselor Simonetta Sommaruga, and then, after appropriate consultation with Federal Prosecutor Erwin Beyeler, take all necessary measures, should certain Bilderberg participants – at least Messieurs Bush, Kissinger, Cheney, Perle, etc. – seek to avoid a “Bush-Cointrin” or a “Polansky-Kloten” scenario, to arrest these individuals at Samedan or St. Moritz Airports for potential delivery into the hands of the various courts of jurisdiction (The Hague, etc.).
Edited by DeadHearts (06/10/11 02:22 PM)
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EntheogenicPeace
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14591923 - 06/10/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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