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allaroundhunter
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Boletus edulis
#14587119 - 06/09/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Habitat: in the woods under pine trees white firs 4000ft serria mountians california Gills: pores Stem: white thick Cap: red brown cap, uneven shape Spore print color: no print pores damanged in transfer Bruising: no brusing
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elprawn
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Not B. edulis. One of the blue staining Boletes.
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allaroundhunter
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Re: Boletus edulis [Re: elprawn]
#14587172 - 06/09/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Does not stain blue at all no bruising at all stayed white even when cut
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elprawn
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Dude, I can see the blue staining on the pores.
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Re: Boletus edulis [Re: elprawn]
#14587194 - 06/09/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Elprawn, I don't think that's blue bruising. Boletus edulis gets that colour when old and battered. I do believe this is B. edulis or something very similar, I'm not very familiar with all American boletes.
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Re: Boletus edulis [Re: elprawn]
#14587199 - 06/09/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yellow green not blue i wont eat but want a TI opinon before pretty positive i know what blue bruising looks like.
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Re: Boletus edulis [Re: Tangich]
#14587200 - 06/09/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tangich said: Elprawn, I don't think that's blue bruising. Boletus edulis gets that colour when old and battered. I do believe this is B. edulis or something very similar, I'm not very familiar with all American boletes.
Fair enough, mate. I need my eyes tested.
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allaroundhunter said: yellow green not blue i wont eat but want a TI opinon before pretty positive i know what blue bruising looks like.
I'd eat them. I hope the TI agrees with you so that you have what you want.
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Re: Boletus edulis [Re: elprawn]
#14587217 - 06/09/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's allright. But blue bruising in boletes is not like with Psilocybes, it's unmistakeably blue, almost never 'blue-ish'. OP, I'd say there's pretty slim chance your find is inedible, you should dry that old feller, and then use it in your favorite dish!
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Re: Boletus edulis [Re: Tangich]
#14587227 - 06/09/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tangich said: That's allright. But blue bruising in boletes is not like with Psilocybes, it's unmistakeably blue, almost never 'blue-ish'.
I've picked blue-staining boletes, I know what they look like.
I think I'd call these marks bluish...
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Re: Boletus edulis [Re: elprawn]
#14587237 - 06/09/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just saying, you can mistake blue bruising in boletes for anything else!  But I've noticed that old B. edulis often look like they have a bluish tint in photos, while in person that colour always looks brownish/greenish/rotten, nowhere close to blue. How long before the picture was taken has it been picked? The bruising does fade with time. It's still blue, not like in the OP's picture.
Edited by Tangich (06/09/11 07:28 PM)
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Re: Boletus edulis [Re: Tangich]
#14587245 - 06/09/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I see what I'd call clear bluing in the photographs, but the OP said that they didn't blue, so it must be either shit photos or shit eyesight.
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Re: Boletus edulis [Re: elprawn]
#14587275 - 06/09/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is Boletus rex-veris.
Boletus rex-veris rarely stains slightly blue on the stem. I have found thousands of them and only a few stained blue.
OP, what elevation did you find them at?
I will be spending all day Saturday looking for Boletus rex-veris in the PIPI Valley of the Eldorado national forest. And all weekend next week looking for them.
Butter boletes grow in the same habitat. If anyone finds any butter boletes please dry one and let me know. My friend is describing them as a new species and needs collections.
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Re: Boletus edulis [Re: elprawn]
#14587292 - 06/09/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd give 'er a taste test before you decide to cook it. There are a few inedible boletes that taste very bitter. They were very common in the Czech Republic, I'd often find them in parks in piles, because people would pick them, taste them, and put them off to the side. If it's edible, enjoy that bad boy in a soup or with some eggs =D Or just by itself.
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Alan Rockefeller
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The bitter bolete in his area is Boletus calopus. It stains blue heavily.
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Thanks guys didnt mean to start a fight over bluing on bolete. so the rex-veris is ediable but whats the best way to cook or a good pairingas far as flavor.
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I love making soup out of boletes. Onion rue, cream of mushroom soup.
-------------------- In ancient times, when demons roamed with man, They hunted, loved and lost, hand in hand, As time went on, the difference between them faded. You couldn't tell anymore, demons and man were related, and some would say the same, but who would like to claim? In time, Gods had even forgot, Demons, too, once love had sought. In times recent I remember, Once I was a man, In my heart I had an ember, I'll relate the best I can but it was snuffed, one distant December. And yet here I stand, no flesh, no bones, no seed or semen, All that's left is this Demon.
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Alan Rockefeller
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allaroundhunter said: Thanks guys didnt mean to start a fight over bluing on bolete. so the rex-veris is ediable but whats the best way to cook or a good pairingas far as flavor.
They are good fried in butter, or in soup.
Many people say they are even better dried.
Some people dry them and powder them and use the powder as a spice and soup thickener.
One time I made lasagne with B. rex-veris instead of pasta.
At home I have a book that lists which other ingredients porcini pairs well with.
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