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stuntmanmike


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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14585318 - 06/09/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If ghost were as real as you or me id be going out to lunch with one right now
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nice1
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14585320 - 06/09/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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He has a belief; he calls it science
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nice1
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: stuntmanmike]
#14585323 - 06/09/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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stuntmanmike said: If ghost were as real as you or me id be going out to lunch with one right now
Do you also punch farts?
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Anthony917
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: nice1]
#14585325 - 06/09/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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stuntmanmike


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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: nice1]
#14585326 - 06/09/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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sometimes
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nice1
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: Anthony917]
#14585332 - 06/09/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Another indicator
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DeadHearts


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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: Anthony917]
#14585345 - 06/09/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anthony917 said: what about EVPs? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voice_phenomenon
Thats obviously just hallucinations.
That and hearing someone run around downstairs slamming cupboards and moving shit around when no one is home. Waking up in a brightly lit room and feeling someone stand over you and being completely engulfed in terror for no reason. Blah Blah.
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nice1
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: Anthony917]
#14585346 - 06/09/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Check out the Enfield poltergeist
It will blow your mind.
Police, newspaper reporters, everyone saw, heard this ghost...
It talked through a little girl and gave the precise details of its name, DOB and method of death which were confirmed years later by the family and the death certificate.
People photographed this child floating around the room.
Of course it was all a mass hallucination just like the millions of other reports coming from every culture throughout human history.
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Anthony917
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14585354 - 06/09/11 12:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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well i mean have you ever heard one? it's definitely sound, sometimes audible words/phrases so its definitely not hallucinations.
whether or not its ghosts is another story
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: Anthony917]
#14585360 - 06/09/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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How can you tell what's a hallucination and what's not? You can't. Its all in your brain either way, both outside and inside stimuli.
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nice1
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: Anthony917]
#14585361 - 06/09/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anthony917
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: nice1]
#14585386 - 06/09/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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-------------------- Prisoner#1 said: I got my ass kicked by a 9yo when I was 17 Trippin? Click Me
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: nice1]
#14585394 - 06/09/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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nice1 said:

I thought we understood each other until that ^^^
Ok back to you proving they are hallcuniations?
You can't. We already agreed nothing is provable and science doesn't deal in absolutes.
Why the faith? You are using pseudo science yourself because claiming all ghost are hallucination in the name of science when it is faith 
Hahaha, Jesus Christ. I never agreed that "nothing is provable." That's insane. Laws of physics are provable. Maybe not applicable in special relativity, but certainly provable. While I admit science isn't perfect, it is the search for absolutes, and it's the only way we'll uncover those.
I don't have to prove that ghosts are hallucinations. I don't believe in ghosts b/c I've never seen any remarkable evidence for them, same with fire-breathing dragons. I do believe in hallucinations b/c I've experienced them and there are many known ways to trigger them.
My disbelief in ghosts is not faith, it's logic. You see what resembles a human form or face floating in the dark and jump to, "Oh it's the soul of someone who died, still roaming around on earth." That's your theory, fine. My theory is that you're hallucinating, a common phenomenon amongst us great apes. If I'm ever proven wrong, I'll happily discard my theory.
I do believe in proof and I require it to adopt extreme theories like, We're all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively and Ghosts are real evidence of the afterlife and defy our current understanding of the world.
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: Anthony917]
#14585396 - 06/09/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anthony917 said:
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uber_aj said: Hahaha, there is no data for ghosts or the paranormal.
ever watched ghost adventures?? 
seriously though they DO get some unexplained and weird shit during their investigations and it makes me wonder...

watch every friday lol
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: Anthony917]
#14585399 - 06/09/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That child was seriously fucked up and disturbed by what happened to her. She did play tricks during the investigation but was not responsible for all that happened.
The amount of bizzarre incidents and the facts presented are really astounding. Even the police went in and witnessed objects flying around on their own.
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Anthony917
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: Dave Bowman]
#14585404 - 06/09/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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hahah me too. they are pretty ridiculous, and when they get scared it makes me so hard.
but seriously they get a lot of creepy stuff on there
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: uber_aj]
#14585412 - 06/09/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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uber_aj said: Hahaha, Jesus Christ. I never agreed that "nothing is provable." That's insane. Laws of physics are provable. Maybe not applicable in special relativity, but certainly provable. While I admit science isn't perfect, it is the search for absolutes, and it's the only way we'll uncover those.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
Sorry but you are a pseudo scientist then.
Science does not deal in absolutes. There are no "laws" in the scientific method of reasoning. You don't even understand what the method is.
"Provable" is an absolute. You sir have a faith.
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: uber_aj]
#14585429 - 06/09/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You believe all ghosts are hallucinations - thats a faith.
You believe scientific theories are absolutes because you call them "laws".
You on par with religion.
As for not agreeing nothing is provable... back to the question of concensus reality again. You think its more real or closer to truth because some other people agree.
Its faith. Not science. So stop presenting your beliefs as science.
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Newlord
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: nice1]
#14585433 - 06/09/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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No, we are not. Just more hocus pocus bullcrap from Bill Hicks.
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Re: Are we all just one consciousness......? [Re: Newlord]
#14585437 - 06/09/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Newlord said: No, we are not. Just more hocus pocus bullcrap from Bill Hicks.

Yup, that is just some random theory Bill Hicks pulled out of his ass hole.
Edited by DeadHearts (06/09/11 01:03 PM)
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