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InvisibleDeadHearts


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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1] * 2
    #14585328 - 06/09/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Whats important here is not the condition of the buildings in the country :facepalm:

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14585329 - 06/09/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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unam sanctum said:
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zappaisgod said:
It has.  They actually control their own destiny now.  They have been rid of the yoke of a tyrant.  Why gaggles of nitwits fellate Saddam Hussein's legacy as if it farted unicorns is beyond any rational comprehension.  He was a vile pox on the planet.  Especially vile to Iraqis.




Hussein's reign over Iraq is no more justified than our invasion and subsequent occupation.  But hey I guess the over 1 million civilian casualties agree with your assessment.





more bullshit... iraq bodycount presents a very liberal view of the
collateral casualties and they have blamed all violent deaths in iraq
since 2003 on the US, that includes auto accidents, insurgent attacks,
honor killings and any other violent death regardless of it's cause on the
US and their count is 101k-110k, some retarded doctards organization gave
an estimate of 1 million... care to show us how that number was reached?

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InvisibleTwo_Swarm
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14585344 - 06/09/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I took this class called the Historical Diplomatic Study of the War in Iraq... and WOW, after reading a series of books...: Cobra 2, Plan of Attack, the Assassins gate and doing research on the movies the Tillman story and Gunner Palace, I have to say WOW...
Way to Go America, way to go Soldiers.... I actually go to school with some transfer students from the military college of Georgia, and they are enlisted and all, most have had personal stories from Iraq, or knew someone who had.
The professor of the Iraq class gave a very detailed history of the Iraq war, it's key players, and wars before it.
Before judging, trying reading the Thunder Run chapter or Black Hawk Down Iraq.

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InvisibleTwo_Swarm
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14585356 - 06/09/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Only a fucking idiot would argue that it was bad for Iraq.





Um, if you were living in Baghdad around 2003 when America toppled the Imperial Palace, you could have scored over a billion dollars in loot, because the American soldiers were given orders to not stop looters, even from ancient historical museums.. One liquor store lost over $80,000 in old cask liquors.

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14585359 - 06/09/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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unam sanctum said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
It has.  They actually control their own destiny now.  They have been rid of the yoke of a tyrant.  Why gaggles of nitwits fellate Saddam Hussein's legacy as if it farted unicorns is beyond any rational comprehension.  He was a vile pox on the planet.  Especially vile to Iraqis.




Hussein's reign over Iraq is no more justified than our invasion and subsequent occupation.  But hey I guess the over 1 million civilian casualties agree with your assessment.




Other shit:

"1 million civilian casualties" my ass.  "Put that fact back in the ass you pulled it out of."  I believe that was Teragon.  And who is responsible for most of the civilian casualties?  Baathists and insurgents who can't stand that they didn't win the elections, little wannabe dictators.  Why do you supposedly peace loving children suck the teats of tyrants?  They would chop your fair head off in a heartbeat.


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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Two_Swarm]
    #14585372 - 06/09/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Two_Swarm said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Only a fucking idiot would argue that it was bad for Iraq.





Um, if you were living in Baghdad around 2003 when America toppled the Imperial Palace, you could have scored over a billion dollars in loot, because the American soldiers were given orders to not stop looters, even from ancient historical museums.. One liquor store lost over $80,000 in old cask liquors.



Who gives a shit?  You know where liquor and antiquities lie on a list of wartime priorities?  Nowhere.


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InvisibleTwo_Swarm
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14585374 - 06/09/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not saying that the Jessica Lynch rescue was overrated, but it was entirely orchestrated for the American media and the mass population. We've seen a Surprising acceptance in a War, in America, as compared to Vietnam.. Which lives are worth the most?

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14585376 - 06/09/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Two_Swarm said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Only a fucking idiot would argue that it was bad for Iraq.





Um, if you were living in Baghdad around 2003 when America toppled the Imperial Palace, you could have scored over a billion dollars in loot, because the American soldiers were given orders to not stop looters, even from ancient historical museums.. One liquor store lost over $80,000 in old cask liquors.



Who gives a shit?  You know where liquor and antiquities lie on a list of wartime priorities?  Nowhere.





You have no idea what your talking about. "Only a fucking idiot would argue it
was bad for Iraq"


:lolsy:

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14585379 - 06/09/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

bullshit this...bullshit that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORB_survey_of_Iraq_War_casualties

May be exaggerated somewhat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

This is the "retarded doctard" survey you referred to, coming from one of the oldest scientific journals in the world...and one of only two that was peer reviewed....

The second survey[2][3][4] published on 11 October 2006, estimated 654,965 excess deaths related to the war, or 2.5% of the population, through the end of June 2006. The new study applied similar methods and involved surveys between May 20 and July 10, 2006.[4] More households were surveyed, allowing for a 95% confidence interval of 392,979 to 942,636 excess Iraqi deaths. 601,027 deaths (range of 426,369 to 793,663 using a 95% confidence interval) were due to violence. 31% (186,318) of those were attributed to the Coalition, 24% (144,246) to others, and 46% (276,472) unknown. The causes of violent deaths were gunshot (56% or 336,575), car bomb (13% or 78,133), other explosion/ordnance (14%), air strike (13% or 78,133), accident (2% or 12,020), and unknown (2%).

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14585387 - 06/09/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:
Whats important here is not the condition of the buildings in the country :facepalm:





but the conditions of the building denote the condition of the country
especially when some twat from IVAW id claiming that all the apartment
buildings in baghdad have been bombed, that would mean that they're
uninhabitable and that would in fact reflect the condition of the city
and as a whole, the country given that those two cities have seen the
bulk of the fighting

would this not reflect the condition of Sarajevo while it was under seige?







I wonder why IVAW only has 1200 members world wide with more than 400,000
people serving there from all over the world? $$$

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InvisibleDeadHearts


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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14585408 - 06/09/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:facepalm:


Prove to me and the rest of us that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan helped the
people of thos two countries.


You do not have to prove to me what condition the buildings are in because its
not important. Sure it would be more obvious that the country is probably not
doing too well :lol:

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14585409 - 06/09/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That guy in the last picture wearing a robe was like ' GEE I"M GLAD I converted to Buddhism, those Muslims just got pwned."

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InvisibleTwo_Swarm
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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14585415 - 06/09/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:
:facepalm:


Prove to me and the rest of us that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan helped the
people of thos two countries.
/




SImple math, more people dead means less mouths to feed, less disease and pestilence, and less spread of anarchy and dictatorship. I'm not saying the kid who was burned alive as his mother watch his skin melt off was justified... it's a sickly thing, this war.
Wait, we're still at war? WTF? 10 years later?

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InvisibleDeadHearts


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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Two_Swarm]
    #14585419 - 06/09/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Two_Swarm said:
Quote:

DeadHearts said:
:facepalm:


Prove to me and the rest of us that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan helped the
people of thos two countries.
/




SImple math, more people dead means less mouths to feed, less disease and pestilence, and less spread of anarchy and dictatorship. I'm not saying the kid who was burned alive as his mother watch his skin melt off was justified... it's a sickly thing, this war.
Wait, we're still at war? WTF? 10 years later?





:hmm:

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14585425 - 06/09/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

unam sanctum said:
bullshit this...bullshit that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORB_survey_of_Iraq_War_casualties

May be exaggerated somewhat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

This is the "retarded doctard" survey you referred to, coming from one of the oldest scientific journals in the world...and one of only two that was peer reviewed....




peer review doesnt detect fraud and an opinion survey from Opinion
Research Business, certainly doesnt give an accurate count of collateral
casualties especially when you look at the nice figure that lancet gives
of 46% as unknown cause of death. violence', which could have been any
number of sources are 600,000 of the deaths  then add in car bombs being
13%, 14% was other explosive ordinance, you know, IEDs apparently meant
for americans, and just how many of the claimed 186,000 coalition caused
deaths were actually insurgents and not collateral casualties

so once more... what a huge load of bullshit

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14585428 - 06/09/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

WHat I meant to say is " AMERICA" is still at war, 10 years later?
Just because I live in America doen't mean I don't want terrorists sneaking up and ninja-ing me.

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Two_Swarm]
    #14585432 - 06/09/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Two_Swarm said:
That guy in the last picture wearing a robe was like ' GEE I"M GLAD I converted to Buddhism, those Muslims just got pwned."




that guy in the picture is a muslim, the wars in central europe was all about
exterminating the muslim population, the US/UN stepped in the stop it

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14585436 - 06/09/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I do not blame the people for wanting to kill us. How many horrific stories
do we have to hear about our own soldiers raping and killing people over there.

If that shit was happening here your asses would be fighting "democracy" as well.

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14585439 - 06/09/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Funny you mention it, in my International Organization class I am Exposed to all sorts of issues involving International Government ORganizations. I'm not gonna spew conspiracy theory shet. And you don't know he foloows the Islam faith, because that guy was actually at temple night in the new Sactuary of Kongzi and Mozi, in the city opening, last Friday.

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Re: Iraq veterans speak the truth [Re: Two_Swarm] * 1
    #14585455 - 06/09/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What about the money? Pris and zappa i'd like to hear what you think about the money situation considering how poorly our economy is doing right now. Our defense budget is huge and seems to flow into these black hole military contractors. Seems like a roundabout way to funnel tax payer money into certain organizations pockets.

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