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Offlinewintertime2
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Melbourne ID please
    #14583244 - 06/09/11 02:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hi guys

Found these two today, just want to make sure I'm IDing properly. Pretty sure they're subs. Got a bit of blue around the top of the stem, looks like blue rust.

http://imbx.us/Qob.jpg

http://imbx.us/QeOh.jpg

http://imbx.us/QObh.jpg

http://imbx.us/QWVo.jpg

AND Spore print pictures:

http://imbx.us/RMU.jpg

http://imbx.us/RVK.jpg


Habitat was prime sub territory: in tanbark in a reserve in SE melbourne near a creek.


Would really appreciate someone to help me ID them.

Thanks very much for your help.

Edited by wintertime2 (06/09/11 11:40 PM)

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: wintertime2]
    #14583270 - 06/09/11 03:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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wintertime2 said:
Hi guys

Found these two today, just want to make sure I'm IDing properly. Pretty sure they're subs. Got a bit of blue around the top of the stem, looks like blue rust.

http://imbx.us/Qob.jpg

http://imbx.us/QeOh.jpg

Would really appreciate someone to help me ID them.

Thanks very much for your help.




negative.
they more closely resemble an agrocybe sp.

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
    #14583300 - 06/09/11 03:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Wow thankyou, I was pretty sure I was on the money. Goes to show you can never be too careful eh? What's the bluish stuff at the top of the stem? I was a little bit hesitant because it looks like it's on the surface of the stem, rather than a part of it.

Here are some better photos, spore print on the way.

http://imbx.us/QObh.jpg

http://imbx.us/QWVo.jpg

Thanks again.

p.s. sorry for the lame photo hosting service

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: wintertime2]
    #14583319 - 06/09/11 03:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

bad photos
Im not so sure. I think you're wrong.
They could be subs imo... at least one of them.
I see the correct coloured spores, and possibly bruising.


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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: wintertime2]
    #14583325 - 06/09/11 03:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

these look similar to subs i have picked, is that blue bruising on stem where you have cut them? spore print will tell if they are subs though.


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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: wintertime2]
    #14583329 - 06/09/11 03:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You can see the spore colour on the top one in this photo: http://imbx.us/Qob.jpg
It looks sub to me.


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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: wintertime2]
    #14583333 - 06/09/11 03:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I wish I could get better light for these photos.. Best I can do sorry.. There is what looks like some little blue bits in the cap of one, and one of the stems has VERY light blue bruising where I cut it. It's not thoroughly convincing though.

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: wintertime2]
    #14583339 - 06/09/11 03:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I wouldn't say for sure until i saw better photos, but i'm thinking subaeruginosa, at least one of them.
Agrocybe have brown spores right? those look dark purple...
Upload spore prints and some more photos of the specimens if you can.


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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: wintertime2]
    #14583349 - 06/09/11 03:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it looks to me like the "bluing" is from spores being dropped on the stem.

here is the bluing you are looking for with better lighting:



i could be wrong though.
i'm just not convinced.

wait for a ti.
shouldn't be too long before one comes on.

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: ouijah]
    #14583353 - 06/09/11 03:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Untill there is a proper spore print on paper or foil, im not confident enough to make a proper id on these. where abouts did you find them? long grass under a tree?


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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: Subbedyamum]
    #14583357 - 06/09/11 03:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Subbedyamum said:
Untill there is a proper spore print on paper or foil, im not confident enough to make a proper id on these. where abouts did you find them? long grass under a tree?




this.
but, i still don't think so.

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
    #14583516 - 06/09/11 05:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

im pretty sure they are, his said there is slight bluing from where he cut it? even the slightest bit of bluing can give you the id?

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: Yip]
    #14583546 - 06/09/11 05:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Yip said:
im pretty sure they are, his said there is slight bluing from where he cut it? even the slightest bit of bluing can give you the id?




some people's "blue" is different than other people's "blue."
sometimes we see what we want to see. :justdontknow:
i'm not saying i don't believe him.
i just don't see it in the pictures.
we are waiting on a print to be sure, and smart.

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
    #14583563 - 06/09/11 06:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

haha i understand exactly, sometimes when i really want to see blue i end up seeing it so just to make sure i take some back to check them properly

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: Yip]
    #14583565 - 06/09/11 06:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i see blue :rockon:


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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: Subbedyamum]
    #14583574 - 06/09/11 06:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Subbedyamum said:
i see blue :rockon:




i might.
i don't know.
they just look off to me. :confused:

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
    #14583579 - 06/09/11 06:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Spore prints still coming, they're taking a while to come through for some reason. I think I see some vague purpleishness to what's come through already. I'm pretty convinced they're subs, but I'm not gonna eat them just to be safe. I'll take some photos in daylight tomorrow, and upload the spore prints when done.

Hopefully they won't be dried out by then.

Thanks for all the advice so far, and apologies for not providing all the right info. I'm learning :smile:

Edited by wintertime2 (06/09/11 06:20 AM)

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: wintertime2]
    #14583610 - 06/09/11 06:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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wintertime2 said:
Spore prints still coming, they're taking a while to come through for some reason. I think I see some vague purpleishness to what's come through already. I'm pretty convinced they're subs, but I'm not gonna eat them just to be safe. I'll take some photos in daylight tomorrow, and upload the spore prints when done.

Hopefully they won't be dried out by then.




:thumbup:
you should wait on those prints for at least a couple of hours.
keep the caps covered as well. they will print quicker.
is this your first, possibly active find?
*fingers crossed*

:aliendance:
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: wintertime2]
    #14583616 - 06/09/11 06:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If you only have the two then it's not worth eating them anyway.  I am not convinced they are subs it is rather hard to tell with those shots.  I played around with them for a while and I think I can see blueing at the very top of the stems. Could you take a close up of one of the stems in some better lighting?  It is the only place I can really see something i would consider to be blueing. If your camera has macro mode use that it will be a symbol that looks like this :macrofunction:

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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: Stopwhispering]
    #14583672 - 06/09/11 06:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If you only have the two then it's not worth eating them anyway.  I am not convinced they are subs it is rather hard to tell with those shots.  I played around with them for a while and I think I can see blueing at the very top of the stems. Could you take a close up of one of the stems in some better lighting?  It is the only place I can really see something i would consider to be blueing. If your camera has macro mode use that it will be a symbol that looks like this :macrofunction:




this.
also, as i stated before i think that "bluing" may be spore deposits on the top of the stipe.

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