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wintertime2
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Melbourne ID please
#14583244 - 06/09/11 02:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi guys
Found these two today, just want to make sure I'm IDing properly. Pretty sure they're subs. Got a bit of blue around the top of the stem, looks like blue rust.
http://imbx.us/Qob.jpg
http://imbx.us/QeOh.jpg
http://imbx.us/QObh.jpg
http://imbx.us/QWVo.jpg
AND Spore print pictures:
http://imbx.us/RMU.jpg
http://imbx.us/RVK.jpg
Habitat was prime sub territory: in tanbark in a reserve in SE melbourne near a creek.
Would really appreciate someone to help me ID them.
Thanks very much for your help.
Edited by wintertime2 (06/09/11 11:40 PM)
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wintertime2 said: Hi guys
Found these two today, just want to make sure I'm IDing properly. Pretty sure they're subs. Got a bit of blue around the top of the stem, looks like blue rust.
http://imbx.us/Qob.jpg
http://imbx.us/QeOh.jpg
Would really appreciate someone to help me ID them.
Thanks very much for your help.
negative. they more closely resemble an agrocybe sp.
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wintertime2
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
#14583300 - 06/09/11 03:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow thankyou, I was pretty sure I was on the money. Goes to show you can never be too careful eh? What's the bluish stuff at the top of the stem? I was a little bit hesitant because it looks like it's on the surface of the stem, rather than a part of it.
Here are some better photos, spore print on the way.
http://imbx.us/QObh.jpg
http://imbx.us/QWVo.jpg
Thanks again.
p.s. sorry for the lame photo hosting service
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bad photos Im not so sure. I think you're wrong. They could be subs imo... at least one of them. I see the correct coloured spores, and possibly bruising.
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these look similar to subs i have picked, is that blue bruising on stem where you have cut them? spore print will tell if they are subs though.
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You can see the spore colour on the top one in this photo: http://imbx.us/Qob.jpg It looks sub to me.
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wintertime2
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I wish I could get better light for these photos.. Best I can do sorry.. There is what looks like some little blue bits in the cap of one, and one of the stems has VERY light blue bruising where I cut it. It's not thoroughly convincing though.
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I wouldn't say for sure until i saw better photos, but i'm thinking subaeruginosa, at least one of them. Agrocybe have brown spores right? those look dark purple... Upload spore prints and some more photos of the specimens if you can.
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it looks to me like the "bluing" is from spores being dropped on the stem.
here is the bluing you are looking for with better lighting:

i could be wrong though. i'm just not convinced.
wait for a ti. shouldn't be too long before one comes on.
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: ouijah]
#14583353 - 06/09/11 03:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Untill there is a proper spore print on paper or foil, im not confident enough to make a proper id on these. where abouts did you find them? long grass under a tree?
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Subbedyamum said: Untill there is a proper spore print on paper or foil, im not confident enough to make a proper id on these. where abouts did you find them? long grass under a tree?
this. but, i still don't think so.
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
#14583516 - 06/09/11 05:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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im pretty sure they are, his said there is slight bluing from where he cut it? even the slightest bit of bluing can give you the id?
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: Yip]
#14583546 - 06/09/11 05:53 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yip said: im pretty sure they are, his said there is slight bluing from where he cut it? even the slightest bit of bluing can give you the id?
some people's "blue" is different than other people's "blue." sometimes we see what we want to see.  i'm not saying i don't believe him. i just don't see it in the pictures. we are waiting on a print to be sure, and smart.
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
#14583563 - 06/09/11 06:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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haha i understand exactly, sometimes when i really want to see blue i end up seeing it so just to make sure i take some back to check them properly
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: Yip]
#14583565 - 06/09/11 06:04 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i see blue
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Subbedyamum said: i see blue 
i might. i don't know. they just look off to me.
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
#14583579 - 06/09/11 06:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Spore prints still coming, they're taking a while to come through for some reason. I think I see some vague purpleishness to what's come through already. I'm pretty convinced they're subs, but I'm not gonna eat them just to be safe. I'll take some photos in daylight tomorrow, and upload the spore prints when done.
Hopefully they won't be dried out by then.
Thanks for all the advice so far, and apologies for not providing all the right info. I'm learning
Edited by wintertime2 (06/09/11 06:20 AM)
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wintertime2 said: Spore prints still coming, they're taking a while to come through for some reason. I think I see some vague purpleishness to what's come through already. I'm pretty convinced they're subs, but I'm not gonna eat them just to be safe. I'll take some photos in daylight tomorrow, and upload the spore prints when done.
Hopefully they won't be dried out by then.
 you should wait on those prints for at least a couple of hours. keep the caps covered as well. they will print quicker. is this your first, possibly active find? *fingers crossed*
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If you only have the two then it's not worth eating them anyway. I am not convinced they are subs it is rather hard to tell with those shots. I played around with them for a while and I think I can see blueing at the very top of the stems. Could you take a close up of one of the stems in some better lighting? It is the only place I can really see something i would consider to be blueing. If your camera has macro mode use that it will be a symbol that looks like this
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Stopwhispering said: If you only have the two then it's not worth eating them anyway. I am not convinced they are subs it is rather hard to tell with those shots. I played around with them for a while and I think I can see blueing at the very top of the stems. Could you take a close up of one of the stems in some better lighting? It is the only place I can really see something i would consider to be blueing. If your camera has macro mode use that it will be a symbol that looks like this 
this. also, as i stated before i think that "bluing" may be spore deposits on the top of the stipe.
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
#14583753 - 06/09/11 07:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i see bluing and purple spores. but yeah bad pics so not a definite
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: ouijah]
#14583816 - 06/09/11 07:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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well if they arnt subs what could they be?
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wintertime2 said: Spore prints still coming, they're taking a while to come through for some reason. I think I see some vague purpleishness to what's come through already. I'm pretty convinced they're subs, but I'm not gonna eat them just to be safe. I'll take some photos in daylight tomorrow, and upload the spore prints when done.
Hopefully they won't be dried out by then.
Thanks for all the advice so far, and apologies for not providing all the right info. I'm learning 
Yeah by tommorrow morning you will know for sure, being that size they should leave a good print. they wont go dry by then, it takes like a week in a box for mine to start shrivling up and even then its all goods cause you just dry them in the oven. hope to wake up with those pics of purple prints in the morning! good luck
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: Yip]
#14584071 - 06/09/11 08:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yip said: well if they arnt subs what could they be?
good question. did we ever find out the habitat? op, where did you find the fungi?
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
#14584179 - 06/09/11 08:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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bloodworm said:
is this your first, possibly active find? *fingers crossed*
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haha yes! I have been picking with a friend before, but he showed me the spot so it kinda didn't count. This would be my first find by myself with all the legwork done by me!! So I'm pretty excited. Pretty hilarious that my first are so inconclusive. That's partly why I couldn't wait to get them on here to be ID'd, otherwise I would have put them up with the spore print to begin with.
sorry again to you all about the crap photos, I actually WAS using macro on those second shots, it's just the lighting in my house is terrible so it'll have to wait until tomorrow.
caps are on a sheet of paper with a drop of water on the gills (they were drying out) and a cup over them. hopefully by tomorrow morning.
thanks again to you all for your assistance, I'm very excited.
EDIT: Habitat was prime sub territory, in tanbark in a reserve in melbourne, near a creek and with other woodlovers around.
Edited by wintertime2 (06/09/11 08:45 AM)
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Spore print pictures:
http://imbx.us/RMU.jpg
http://imbx.us/RVK.jpg
Apologies once again for the bad photos and the bad posting. My camera died on me this morning! So I had to use my phone to take these. Hopefully they come through OK.
The spore prints didn't come out very well either, I followed the guide properly but they didn't drop many spores.
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wintertime2 said: Spore print pictures:
http://imbx.us/RMU.jpg
http://imbx.us/RVK.jpg
Apologies once again for the bad photos and the bad posting. My camera died on me this morning! So I had to use my phone to take these. Hopefully they come through OK.
The spore prints didn't come out very well either, I followed the guide properly but they didn't drop many spores.

i don't know what to make of that. 

doesn't look too convincing.
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
#14588617 - 06/10/11 12:57 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha.. I'll put it down as a maybe. Not eating them anyway so it doesn't matter so much, just a matter of pride 
Thanks for the second look.
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yehh they really fucked you over, theres nothing on there that can tell me if they are or not.
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: Yip]
#14589331 - 06/10/11 08:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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looks like subs or cortinarius sp.
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Psilocybimater said: looks like subs or cortinarius sp.
Definitely not Cortinarius.
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: elprawn]
#14589385 - 06/10/11 08:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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elprawn said:
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Psilocybimater said: looks like subs or cortinarius sp.
Definitely not Cortinarius.
i'm beginning to think they are indeed subs just because i can't think of anything else it can be and the habitat. although the lacking spore prints do seem more blackish than purple imo. 
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Re: Melbourne ID please [Re: bloodworm]
#14589460 - 06/10/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psilocybe subaeruginosa
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The Thinker said: Psilocybe subaeruginosa
!! !!

thinker... what took you so long man? haha.
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The Thinker said: Psilocybe subaeruginosa
Awesome! My first solo find!
Thanks to you The Thinker, and all of you (particularly bloodworm for your continued enthusiasm ).
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