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occollegeboi
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Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!!
#14582892 - 06/09/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Please read my trip report here. It will give you a glimpse of what's on my mind.
So...do you guys think that there will be some crazy space travel stuff going on within our life times or shortly thereafter? Or if not shortly thereafter, sometimes in the far future. Just want to hear your thoughts, feelings, expressions on this. Do you think humans will take over the universe or something similar? Do you think there are infinite worlds?
Food for thought.
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: occollegeboi]
#14582971 - 06/09/11 12:38 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I definitely don't believe humans are the pinnacle of evolution in the universe. I think there are civilizations out there that are way more intelligent than us.
Space travel, I think is pretty possible idk how far but I think in our lifetimes we'd be able to make a decent amount of progress from where we are now.
Time travel, no I don't think that will happen in our life times unfortunately.
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occollegeboi
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: Eminence]
#14583121 - 06/09/11 01:34 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Come to think of it, I don't think we would be the pinnicle of evolution either, but you never know. There could be infinite amounts of infinite amounts of worlds and conditions.
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drr

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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: occollegeboi]
#14584585 - 06/09/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Humans aren't as advanced as you'd like to think.
Space travel is just a wee baby in the big scheme of things for us
I think there are probably much more intelligent species in the universe, that know of our existence, but wouldn't touch our planet with a ten light-year pole, because we are violent, we can't even get along with each other, let alone an alien race.
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: drr]
#14584666 - 06/09/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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drr said: I think there are probably much more intelligent species in the universe, that know of our existence, but wouldn't touch our planet with a ten light-year pole, because we are violent, we can't even get along with each other, let alone an alien race.
I don't think I've ever seen a perspective like that before as to why they wouldn't come near us but I definitely agree with that. Superior beings should know that violence isn't the answer.
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: dubdubbawobwob]
#14584684 - 06/09/11 10:25 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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LOL honestly, I got this idea from a more recent episode of South Park, the pinewood derby one. The alien race tests the human race for honesty, and the human race fails the test, so the alien race encloses planet earth in a giant cage-like thing, to seal us off from the rest of the universe for ever.
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occollegeboi
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: drr]
#14585002 - 06/09/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's pretty cool. Aliens should lock us up in our own planet.
yah, I was thinking during my trip, that if humans did that, tried taking over the universe, that nothing good would ever come out of and that we'd be doing it for all the wrong reasons. When I say "we" I don't mean you and me, I mean the advancing human race in general.
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: occollegeboi]
#14585011 - 06/09/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Freeze yourself and get shot in space towards the most promising place in the galaxy
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: occollegeboi]
#14585026 - 06/09/11 11:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe the aliens know who the honest ones are.
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drr

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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: occollegeboi]
#14585029 - 06/09/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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occollegeboi said: That's pretty cool. Aliens should lock us up in our own planet.
yah, I was thinking during my trip, that if humans did that, tried taking over the universe, that nothing good would ever come out of and that we'd be doing it for all the wrong reasons. When I say "we" I don't mean you and me, I mean the advancing human race in general.
If humans tried taking over the universe? How? we can't even collectively 'take over' the earth as the single race that we are (or live together here in harmony is more like it). Not to mention the fact that we haven't even had a man walk on anything farther than our own moon, let alone another planet. We can't even get out of our solar system. We couldn't take over shit.
I mean really think about it. If collectively the human race worked towards any one single goal, we could accomplish it. But we can't even do that. That is why we haven't made it out of our solar system. We are too busy killing each other. You know there is enough food on the planet to feed everybody. But people are still starving. There is enough money for everyone; money isn't even real. And yet people are still poor. We have a long way to go.
Edited by drr (06/09/11 12:01 PM)
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mundane
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: drr]
#14586124 - 06/09/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Guess it depends on how long your lifetime might be. We hadn't yet been to the moon 60 years ago, so who knows what me might be doing 60 years from now? Probably nothing, given what the governments put into their space programs. Too bad these days we're too busy creating problems down here than doing anything up there.
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: mundane]
#14586786 - 06/09/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Couple actual problems we have here....
First... Anywhere away from Earth and the moon, is a long way away. Even distances in our own solar system are far... It would take many years to reach even Saturn
Travel to another solar system is even longer... Possible lifetime Time frames
Second, we are limited to the speed of light. So, even if we were able to go close to the speed of light some how, it would take years to go anywhere of interest.
Third, problem with time. The faster you go, the slower your time frame is to the reference... Ie, we launch someone at the speed of light... Their time is years, our time is longer...
Forth, communications. Again, limited by speed of light... So if you are 2 light years away, a message will take 2 years to reach earth.. And 2 years to respond.
Fifth, energy. To get up to a high speed, need a lot of energy... Further you get from the sun, less solar energy you get... Space is also cold... Need energy to stay warm.. Issue with energy you are taking with, you have to expend energy to accelerate.... But more limiting, to decelerate. No use going speed of light if you don't have enough energy to slow down.
Lastly, space is a dangerous place. Radiation over the course of years of space travel could be dangerous. Also, humans muscle mass is hard to maintain in space... Longer you are in space, the harder it is to readjust to gravity. Micrometeors and space rocks, are obsticals that would have to be avoided.
You can always say ' we might discover.....' but what if we don't? If we don't, then we are stuck in our solar system. Moon, sure. Space stations, sure. Mars, maybe.... Asteroids... Maybe... Anything else... Probably not.
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: HarryL]
#14586837 - 06/09/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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einstein theorised that if a person manages to travel at the speed of light, light will be traveling the speed of light faster than you so theoreticly we have unlimited speeds to reach the only problem with traveling to different solersystems,galaxys what ever is power source if we had unlimited power we could create engines that can propell thing the ize of citys faster than ligh or at least as fast and i think aliens are giving us a wide birth untill we as a race have matured and stopped killing each other over oil or gold or gas and all the other stupid things that we use as exuces to be extreamly crappy to each other (religon for the most part)
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: occollegeboi]
#14586941 - 06/09/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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i on the other hand think that humans are the final blossom of the universe
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Thisfire
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: gaidzag]
#14587551 - 06/09/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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No, but I hope we find a way to extend our lives so that we CAN see the days when we can travel without limitations.
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: Thisfire]
#14587698 - 06/09/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I believe other alien civilizations have technology to space travel and perhaps time travel. I also think that eventually humans will possess the same kind of power, but we will only do so when we cease to be irrational and start rationalizing how backwards our species really is. Evolution will lead to technology and psychic abilities that our imagination cannot begin to format, imagine what an ipad would like 100 years ago to any ordinary individual. It would probably blow his or her fucking mind, so I think the process is similar, though in a quicker, more advanced, and dynamic perspective.
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: drr]
#14587752 - 06/09/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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drr said: I think there are probably much more intelligent species in the universe, that know of our existence, but wouldn't touch our planet with a ten light-year pole, because we are violent, we can't even get along with each other, let alone an alien race.
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: Thisfire]
#14587799 - 06/09/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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No... Hate to tell ya, Albert did not say that... What he said what nothing can go faster than the speed of light in your frame of reference... It's the only thing constant in universe.
Your confusing the frame of reference aspect, ie, if your going 60 mph and turn on a laser pointed forward, the light does not go speed of light plus 60 mph to you. It goes the speed of light. To someone not in your frame, it also does not go faster than the speed of light....
But, again, we might ways of curving space so we can jump between spaces, but we have no way of knowing that would work... Or if you could live though it. The hole problem with the old worm hole SciFi plot...
Anyways... If you would like to discuss relativity and time-space issues, might want to do it off line...
Aliens... Have the same problem... We have no viable theory how they can get to Earth... From where ever they come from. Doesn't mean they can't, ... We just don't think they can... But, who knows!!!
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occollegeboi
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: drr]
#14587911 - 06/09/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree with all of you.
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drr said:
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occollegeboi said: That's pretty cool. Aliens should lock us up in our own planet.
yah, I was thinking during my trip, that if humans did that, tried taking over the universe, that nothing good would ever come out of and that we'd be doing it for all the wrong reasons. When I say "we" I don't mean you and me, I mean the advancing human race in general.
If humans tried taking over the universe? How? we can't even collectively 'take over' the earth as the single race that we are (or live together here in harmony is more like it). Not to mention the fact that we haven't even had a man walk on anything farther than our own moon, let alone another planet. We can't even get out of our solar system. We couldn't take over shit.
I mean really think about it. If collectively the human race worked towards any one single goal, we could accomplish it. But we can't even do that. That is why we haven't made it out of our solar system. We are too busy killing each other. You know there is enough food on the planet to feed everybody. But people are still starving. There is enough money for everyone; money isn't even real. And yet people are still poor. We have a long way to go.
yah. I agree completely.
I always wondered why we have "money" in the first place. It makes no sense why we are the only species to use money. I mean, instead of sending money to 3rd world countries, we should send them a box of food (and a box of condoms so they'd quit having kids). It's not that hard. Humans don't know how to live in harmony. I mean, we on the shroomery do, but collective humans? Nope. We are slowly killing ourselves off.
It was a pretty narly trip though that I had.
I felt like I was "one" with the universe when I was thinking about space and having closed eye visuals of stars and space all around me.
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Re: Fucking time travel and space travel to other worlds and shit!!??!! [Re: drr]
#14587994 - 06/09/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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drr said: I mean really think about it. If collectively the human race worked towards any one single goal, we could accomplish it. But we can't even do that. That is why we haven't made it out of our solar system. We are too busy killing each other. You know there is enough food on the planet to feed everybody. But people are still starving. There is enough money for everyone; money isn't even real. And yet people are still poor. We have a long way to go.
Yup. Contrary to popular belief, our problems are (for the most part) not material, but mental. The material resources that can solve all of our problems are all here, hiding in plain sight. But how those resources are used is dependent on the mindset of the society as a whole. The way I see it, all the war, famine, and greed of the world is a direct reflection of our society's general mindset.
If any real change is to happen, people are gonna have to see that selfishness gets us nowhere and the only way to make progress is through working together. Unfortunately, majority of people are so deeply rooted in the old ways of thinking (that worked in the more primitive stages of our history) that it'd be a gigantic stretch to ask them to change, let alone to actually expect them to.
Maybe if we pass alternate values to our kids...
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