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Poltiics and american society
#14582410 - 06/08/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyone ever realize most of american society is stupid as hell?
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: skatealex2]
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Pretty much all society is stupid as hell. PEOPLE are stupid.
Why do we have to talk shit on ourselves as if everybody else poops ice cream?
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: skatealex2]
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Fact is, that to an extraordinary sense, by comparative standards, the United States is a business-run society, which means that human rights are subordinated.
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Seriously though, Italy is run by a mob boss who sleeps with underage prostitutes.
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LayinUp said: Fact is, that to an extraordinary sense, by comparative standards, the United States is a business-run society, which means that human rights are subordinated.
Way to use a lot of words to say nothing.
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LayinUp said: Fact is, that to an extraordinary sense, by comparative standards, the United States is a business-run society, which means that human rights are subordinated.
Way to use a lot of words to say nothing.
I thin he's saying America is run by business scoiety.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: skatealex2]
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How do you think its done so well?
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Tchan909 said: Pretty much all society is stupid as hell. PEOPLE are stupid.
Why do we have to talk shit on ourselves as if everybody else poops ice cream? 
People only poop icecream after a heroin overdose.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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define well?
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america controls everything, by their standards, we are doing well compared to the rest of the world. we have internet, the best health care, fastest computers, etc...
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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We have good health care but we also get scalped for it.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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then who has better health care?
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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Most European countries have a better healthcare system.
The fact that people die in America because they can't afford treatment shows that it isn't a good system.
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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weedist said: america controls everything, by their standards, we are doing well compared to the rest of the world. we have internet, the best health care, fastest computers, etc...
the pour people are yuno all everywhere but here
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Anyone can say that, show me that people actually die in America because they cant afford health care and ill believe you. But I need some pretty hard facts. If a patient goes into a hospital, he cant be refused treatment. No matter how poor he is. Thats law dude.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
#14582784 - 06/08/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll go with the World Health Organisation, if it's all the same to you.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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ill have to get back to you on this man. im a little too fucked up to get it right now lol
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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weedist said: Anyone can say that, show me that people actually die in America because they cant afford health care and ill believe you. But I need some pretty hard facts. If a patient goes into a hospital, he cant be refused treatment. No matter how poor he is. Thats law dude.
Chronic illnesses that gradually waste a person's health go untreated, and people have to pay for their treatment in the emergency room. They don't expect you to pay up front but they DO expect you to pay, and a LOT. A ride in the ambulance, for example, amounts to about $1000. Not very chill.
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ok people, im going to share a story here. take it as you will.
6 months ago, i got in a horriffic car accident and ended up breaking my back. L1 disk to be exact. I had insurance and was able to get the best doctor available to operate on me. one week after the crash i was already walking. Now skip forward a few weeks to when the bills start coming in. $400,000 roughly. thats a lot of god damn cash money. but i only paid $7,000 because i had insurance. the system works dude.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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"It works for me, therefore it's good."
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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weedist said: ok people, im going to share a story here. take it as you will.
6 months ago, i got in a horriffic car accident and ended up breaking my back. L1 disk to be exact. I had insurance and was able to get the best doctor available to operate on me. one week after the crash i was already walking. Now skip forward a few weeks to when the bills start coming in. $400,000 roughly. thats a lot of god damn cash money. but i only paid $7,000 because i had insurance. the system works dude.
And for much did you pay per month for the insurance itself?
Probably what socialised healthcare would cost you in taxes.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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Dude are you tripping and talking about health insurance? I'd never be able to do that.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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I agree. I can't wait till we can watch the debates.
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weedist said: america controls everything
Bullshit. China controls much.
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weedist said: we are doing well compared to the rest of the world.
Are you part of the 5% upper class?
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weedist said: the best health care
Again, Bullshit. Social health care systems work better. And, to counter the argument that you have to wait too long in a social health care system: I needed to make an appointment to see a psychiatrist in my town of about 150,000 people. I was in a very bad state of mind at the time. I called several doctors and could only find one that was taking new patients, but there was a 6 month waiting list. A second example; my wife recently ran out of her prescription of birth control. She called around to make an appointment with an OB/GYN. The only doctor that was available had a 2 month waiting list. Now, I gotta wrap the fucker up for two months. 
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Again, Bullshit. The fastest computer is in China source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercomputer
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weedist said: ok people, im going to share a story here. take it as you will.
6 months ago, i got in a horriffic car accident and ended up breaking my back. L1 disk to be exact. I had insurance and was able to get the best doctor available to operate on me. one week after the crash i was already walking. Now skip forward a few weeks to when the bills start coming in. $400,000 roughly. thats a lot of god damn cash money. but i only paid $7,000 because i had insurance. the system works dude.
That is 7 grand back in your pocket in a social health care system. I don't know about you, but 7 grand is a lot to me.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: 4HO-DMT]
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America is certainly a nice place to be but no way is it the best at everything.
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you got me when you said china controls a lot, but if you think about it, america is the upper class as far as the world is concerned. Plus no heathcare system is perfect.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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America is upper class as far as the world is concerned? I don't quite know that that means but most European countries have a higher standard of living/quality of life than America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-life_index
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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weedist said: I took a box of tripple cs lol
Dude why?
Shit is not good for you son, if you must do dextromethorphan then do one that has no additives.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: unam sanctum]
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weedist said: I took a box of tripple cs lol
Dude why?
Shit is not good for you son, if you must do dextromethorphan then do one that has no additives.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said: America is upper class as far as the world is concerned? I don't quite know that that means but most European countries have a higher standard of living/quality of life than America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-life_index
America is ranked number 13, thats up there dude. it might not be the best but its up there. and how many countries are there? 194. thats almost top 5%
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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Nearly a year and a half into the economic recovery, some 43.6 million Americans continued to rely on food stamps in November.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: skatealex2]
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I suspect most Americans are more intelligent than the vocal minority would have you believe. If you watch the news, you'd think that Americans are all a bunch of angry, loud-mouthed Tea Partiers. Just like if you spend all your time in internet forums you'd think Ron Paul would be a shoe-in for the presidency.
No, I don't think that voter stupidity is a sufficient explanation for the problems we have in our country(I'm not saying it doesn't play a role). I think our stem much more from an election system which involves corporate fundraising. I mean, it used to be that Democrats raised money from unions while Republicans raised money from corporations, so at least you had two real competing interest groups. But then the unions got dismantled under Reagan, and now both sides rely on the corporations for money. And after Citizens United, it's only going to get worse. I think it's time we had publicly financed elections. Or at the very least, we should limit campaign financing to only small donations from individuals and ban collective entities from donating.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said: America is upper class as far as the world is concerned? I don't quite know that that means but most European countries have a higher standard of living/quality of life than America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-life_index
wait wait wait, why do the drunks get the best quality of life? Im Irish lol jk
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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weedist said: you got me when you said china controls a lot, but if you think about it, america is the upper class as far as the world is concerned. Plus no heathcare system is perfect.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said: I suspect most Americans are more intelligent than the vocal minority would have you believe. If you watch the news, you'd think that Americans are all a bunch of angry, loud-mouthed Tea Partiers. Just like if you spend all your time in internet forums you'd think Ron Paul would be a shoe-in for the presidency.
No, I don't think that voter stupidity is a sufficient explanation for the problems we have in our country(I'm not saying it doesn't play a role). I think our stem much more from an election system which involves corporate fundraising. I mean, it used to be that Democrats raised money from unions while Republicans raised money from corporations, so at least you had two real competing interest groups. But then the unions got dismantled under Reagan, and now both sides rely on the corporations for money. And after Citizens United, it's only going to get worse. I think it's time we had publicly financed elections. Or at the very least, we should limit campaign financing to only small donations from individuals and ban collective entities from donating.
QFT Said very well.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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Mad_Larkin said: America is upper class as far as the world is concerned? I don't quite know that that means but most European countries have a higher standard of living/quality of life than America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-life_index
America is ranked number 13, thats up there dude. it might not be the best but its up there. and how many countries are there? 194. thats almost top 5%
Yeah, I was just debunking your notion that America is the best.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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hahahahaha your right on that americca isnt the best
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No, I don't think that voter stupidity is a sufficient explanation for the problems we have in our country(I'm not saying it doesn't play a role). I think our stem much more from an election system which involves corporate fundraising. I mean, it used to be that Democrats raised money from unions while Republicans raised money from corporations, so at least you had two real competing interest groups. But then the unions got dismantled under Reagan, and now both sides rely on the corporations for money. And after Citizens United, it's only going to get worse. I think it's time we had publicly financed elections. Or at the very least, we should limit campaign financing to only small donations from individuals and ban collective entities from donating.
QFT Said very well.
paul wants the federal government out of state laws..
who else is for that? no one.
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Americans are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.
The elites conspire to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.
You have been lied to since the day you were born for this very reason.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
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Shins said: Americans are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.
The elites conspire to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.
You have been lied to since the day you were born for this very reason.
... A prison for you mind.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: weedist]
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weedist said: ok people, im going to share a story here. take it as you will.
6 months ago, i got in a horriffic car accident and ended up breaking my back. L1 disk to be exact. I had insurance and was able to get the best doctor available to operate on me. one week after the crash i was already walking. Now skip forward a few weeks to when the bills start coming in. $400,000 roughly. thats a lot of god damn cash money. but i only paid $7,000 because i had insurance. the system works dude.
Here's how I took it.
If you didn't have insurance like a lot of Americans, you'd be either 400,000 in debt or have a broken back
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weedist said: ok people, im going to share a story here. take it as you will.
6 months ago, i got in a horriffic car accident and ended up breaking my back. L1 disk to be exact. I had insurance and was able to get the best doctor available to operate on me. one week after the crash i was already walking. Now skip forward a few weeks to when the bills start coming in. $400,000 roughly. thats a lot of god damn cash money. but i only paid $7,000 because i had insurance. the system works dude.
Here's how I took it.
If you didn't have insurance like a lot of Americans, you'd be either 400,000 in debt or have a broken back
just like to point out that less than a sixth of americans dont have health insurance. besides is that not what obama is trying to fix?
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Shins said: Americans are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.
The elites conspire to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.
You have been lied to since the day you were born for this very reason.
... A prison for you mind.
Conspiracy theorists are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.
Alex Jones conspires to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.
You have been lied to since the day you tuned in to Alex Jones for this very reason.
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Shins said: Americans are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.
The elites conspire to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.
You have been lied to since the day you were born for this very reason.
... A prison for you mind.
Conspiracy theorists are stupid by design, stupidity makes people easier to control.
Alex Jones conspires to keep you ignorant because knowledge is power.
You have been lied to since the day you tuned in to Alex Jones for this very reason.
I don't listen to Alex Jones.
Many well respected, professional conspiracy theorists are involved with the judicial system.
hint; prosecutors are conspiracy theorists.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
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I do agree however, that Alex jones is designed to keep "conspiracy theorists" stupid.
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I don't listen to Alex Jones.
Many well respected, professional conspiracy theorists are involved with the judicial system.
hint; prosecutors are conspiracy theorists.
Then how is it that you end up parroting his exact rhetoric?
Who?
No, they aren't.
Conspiracy Theory - A conspiracy theory is a fringe theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by exceptionally powerful and cunning conspirators to achieve a malevolent end.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: skatealex2]
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skatealex2 said: Anyone ever realize most of american society is stupid as hell?

yeah... they voted democrat in 2008
they also voted republican
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said: I mean, it used to be that Democrats raised money from unions But then the unions got dismantled under Reagan,
UAW, Teamsters, SEIU, etc... obviously the unions are alive and well and donating to the democratic party
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Shins said:
I don't listen to Alex Jones.
Many well respected, professional conspiracy theorists are involved with the judicial system.
hint; prosecutors are conspiracy theorists.
Then how is it that you end up parroting his exact rhetoric?
Who?
No, they aren't.
Conspiracy Theory - A conspiracy theory is a fringe theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by exceptionally powerful and cunning conspirators to achieve a malevolent end.
You are such a troll.
con·spir·a·cy
1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act. 2. A group of conspirators. 3. Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action. 4. A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design
If you do not think the above definition never takes place in this world then you are the one that should be wearing a tinfoil hat broseph.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: DeadHearts]
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I just think that if Shins spent less time berating the stupidity of the "sheeple" masses and more time explaining why he talks the way he does, it would be easier to listen to and take seriously his positions.
Not trying to flame here, just some (hopefully) constructive criticism.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Newlord]
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I don't listen to Alex Jones.
Many well respected, professional conspiracy theorists are involved with the judicial system.
hint; prosecutors are conspiracy theorists.
Then how is it that you end up parroting his exact rhetoric?
Who?
No, they aren't.
Conspiracy Theory - A conspiracy theory is a fringe theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by exceptionally powerful and cunning conspirators to achieve a malevolent end.
I have never seen so many negative connotations crammed into a single paragraph. A conspiracy theory Is actually a theoretical explanation of a situation which conspiracy is completely within the realm of possibility. Conspiracy, which is by definition a back door deal made between two or more people that affects your life.
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Tchan909 said: I just think that if Shins spent less time berating the stupidity of the "sheeple" masses and more time explaining why he talks the way he does, it would be easier to listen to and take seriously his positions.
Doesnt matter. Our homeboy Newlord's comment was stupid  Posting a "definition" that someone made up from Wikipedia to make shins look bad.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: DeadHearts]
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Why is "definition" in quotes? It seems like a perfectly serviceable definition to me. No doubt conspiracies are real and happen all the time, but this does not make every conspiracy theory true. Many of them are contradictory and most of them are bulllshit.
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IMO they're not really conspirators, they're just "elites." They don't hide their "conspiracy," it's all above the table. It works because they nurture our passivity.
There, I summed it up perfectly without resorting to name-calling or bullshit rhetoric.
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Tchan909 said: IMO they're not really conspirators, they're just "elites." They don't hide their "conspiracy," it's all above the table. It works because they nurture our passivity.
There, I summed it up perfectly without resorting to name-calling or bullshit rhetoric.
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I caught the tail end of a broadcast about the Harper parties gross misuse of hundreds of millions of dollars of tax payers dollars on projects that were never brought to completion or failed all together. It ended on them saying that Its the third time its happened so Harper can expect the Canadian people to not be rising up in anger against his reckless spending anytime soon.
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Tcan; do you agree the knowledge is power?
If so; is it not logical that power hungry people would conspire to hoard powerful knowledge?
http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistry101/a/lawtheory.htm
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Words have precise meanings in science. For example, 'theory', 'law', and 'hypothesis' don't all mean the same thing. Outside of science, you might say something is 'just a theory', meaning it's supposition that may or may not be true. In science, a theory is an explanation that generally is accepted to be true. Here's a closer look at these important, commonly misused terms.
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A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis or group of hypotheses that have been supported with repeated testing. A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it. Therefore, theories can be disproven. Basically, if evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, then the hypothesis can become accepted as a good explanation of a phenomenon. One definition of a theory is to say it's an accepted hypothesis.
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The fact that people don;t seem to know the difference between "conspiracy theory" and "conspiracy hypothesis" really kind of backs up my argument.
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You see? They proudly broadcast their failures and betrayals to the entire world, and here we are bitching about it on the Internet.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
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Shins: Knowledge IS horded, in places called "universities."
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What he said.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: DeadHearts]
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otherwise...
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Tchan909 said: Shins: Knowledge IS horded, in places called "universities."
There ya go...
check this out;
http://www.gov.bc.ca/aved/
Curriculum is decided by a government ministry, how fucked up is that?
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Nezzy]
#14588729 - 06/10/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey Shins, I only just got your joke about prosecuting attorneys
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Nezzy]
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Tchan909 said: Shins: Knowledge IS horded, in places called "universities."
What he said.
Really? The fuck man.
You do not believe men in power would conspire to keep certain leverage, gains or power over others??
Whats going on here!?
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: DeadHearts]
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"Men in power" often happen to be the deans at universities who determine which curricula are taught in the schools.
Herp.
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Tchan909 said: "Men in power" often happen to be the deans at universities who determine which curricula are taught in the schools.
Herp.

Sure man you win. I dont even know what we are talking about anymore. Too tired for this shit right now.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: DeadHearts]
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Tchan909 said: "Men in power" often happen to be the deans at universities who determine which curricula are taught in the schools.
Herp.
Dean still has to fit the overall government standards or else the government will negate the degree.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
#14588743 - 06/10/11 01:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey, I'm not disagreeing with you about anything, I'm just saying that the conspiracy rhetoric is pointless as are conspiracy hypotheses. The "conspiracy" is totally transparent.
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so... why isn't everyone MAD AS HELL? and rioting in the streets?
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
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Probably because there are more reasonable ways of doing it. The transparency is a new thing, only really been here in any practical sense for a couple decades. There are less violent and destructive ways of restructuring and refocusing our society and many good people are hard at work.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
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Shins said: so... why isn't everyone MAD AS HELL? and rioting in the streets?
Because American Idol is on..
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K, well i'm one of them postin' here ;D
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rioting is such a daft way to go about things. I always wonder why the mass's never think of storming the senate/Parliment itself, barricade themselves in, then making clear and concise demands.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
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I think it's a good thing we don't have mass violence going on. I honestly think it's gravy that we've managed to get people so domesticated, for lack of a better word. Riots are no fun. Just look at the Middle-East - can you tell me anyone reasonable living there doesn't wish they had it like we do? I'm a big fan of every type of revolution that isn't armed.
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But there is mass violence going on, just largely in other countries.
look at the drug war, police are intrinsically violent.
We all live under the gun every day; step out of line, and you get government violence on you.
not saying laws are bad though, just bad laws and authoritative governments.
The government should be living under the gun of the people, either literally or metaphorically.
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Re: Poltiics and american society [Re: Shins]
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I'm not comfortable living with the rapidly growing police state either.
I guess I can't really say what I think the right thing to do about it is. I just have a pretty clear idea of what the right thing to do isn't, and that's armed uprising against the government.
I believe really strongly in nonviolence. Armed revolutions generally end in failure or worse, in setting off a cycle of violence and cultural decay that can last for centuries. This stuff goes really bad most of the time.
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