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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: phantomstranger]
    #14644243 - 06/20/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

well girls have less reason to want to be big and also generally tend to be less vain than men... so you can't really expect her to understand. Something she might be more onboard with and would make her a hypocrite is using amphetamines to lose weight.

steroids are just another drug to me. being a huge drug user I'd be a big asshole if I were to say my drug is ok but steroids aren't. I really see it as something for the weak minded though, at least if you're using them to get big and not for health benefits like Wiccan. Same as using amps to lose weight or xanax to be able to talk to girls. Things a person could do naturally, but they are too weak and rather use the quickest way possible with less effort. Obvious confidence problems...

What you pay for and inject, I get for free. 185 lbs, 6 foot, muscular build. Didn't need drugs cuz I'm not a bitch. Drugs are for getting high, not artificial confidence imo.

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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: John]
    #14644599 - 06/20/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Being confident is like being high 24/7. The more confident I am the less I feel like using drugs for pleasure. I would not mind trying a cycle when I start nearing my natural muscular peak.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: phantomstranger]
    #14644642 - 06/20/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The benefits outweigh the risks imo...at least if you don't have any pre-existing conditions such as heart problems or something..

I did a very light cycle, 250mg every 5 days of test cyp, I gained 10 pounds, kept 4 pounds(post cycle diet was very shitty).

I got my bloodwork back a couple days ago and my test levels are above average (its been about 2 months since my last shot).

I had Mood swings for about 3 consecutive days during the first couple days of pct, oh and I also got some hair growth

I don't plan on cycling again until I feel that I am more disciplined with my diet.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14644699 - 06/20/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Nope that isn't cool but there are ways to prevent bitch tits.

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How?  I think you should listen to your friend.  The extra 20lbs you lift while roiding isn't worth it.  Look what Arnold has to say about steroids.




You really think he is gonna be pro-steroids while being governor?

Arnold holds a bodybuilding competition every year called the Arnold Classic, they all use steroids, yet they don't test for them.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: phantomstranger]
    #14644864 - 06/20/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Pretty good so far, I'm just starting week 4 today. I feel like I put on some weight but I'll have to weigh myself at the gym tonight when I go to see where I stand.  Strength is up some, I was hitting 225 on the bench around 3 reps now I'm up to 8 with no spotting so I'm not getting any of those extra reps and I haven't tried maxing out yet. Worked my way up to 245 squatting and deadlifting.

I'm kinda upset about not being able to hit legs as hard as I want to bc when I pin in my thighs it feels like I got hit in the leg with a baseball bat for a few days, my ass hardly gets sore at all.

The hardest part has been dieting because my appetite hasn't been high enough for my liking especially the last couple weeks because I've been doing landscaping work out in the 95-100F heat for 8 hours a day. I wake up too late to eat breakfast so I been trying to make up for it by drinking a 1000cal shake with milk, whey, oats and pb. Just trying to eat eat eat I don't even want to think about food lol just keep trying to scarf it down.

Note on sides: So far basically none, 0 acne and my balls are fine. Nips a little puffy but not sensitive or itchy so I'm not worried yet.




Aren't you taking test E? If you are that's why. You'll notice a ton more in a couple weeks or so.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: Eminence]
    #14645054 - 06/20/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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John said:
well girls have less reason to want to be big and also generally tend to be less vain than men... so you can't really expect her to understand. Something she might be more onboard with and would make her a hypocrite is using amphetamines to lose weight.

steroids are just another drug to me. being a huge drug user I'd be a big asshole if I were to say my drug is ok but steroids aren't. I really see it as something for the weak minded though, at least if you're using them to get big and not for health benefits like Wiccan. Same as using amps to lose weight or xanax to be able to talk to girls. Things a person could do naturally, but they are too weak and rather use the quickest way possible with less effort. Obvious confidence problems...

What you pay for and inject, I get for free. 185 lbs, 6 foot, muscular build. Didn't need drugs cuz I'm not a bitch. Drugs are for getting high, not artificial confidence imo.





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Aren't you taking test E? If you are that's why. You'll notice a ton more in a couple weeks or so.




Yep test E, thats kinda scary actually lol. I've been gaining 3-4lbs a week so far.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: John]
    #14645098 - 06/20/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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well girls have less reason to want to be big and also generally tend to be less vain than men... so you can't really expect her to understand. Something she might be more onboard with and would make her a hypocrite is using amphetamines to lose weight.

steroids are just another drug to me. being a huge drug user I'd be a big asshole if I were to say my drug is ok but steroids aren't. I really see it as something for the weak minded though, at least if you're using them to get big and not for health benefits like Wiccan. Same as using amps to lose weight or xanax to be able to talk to girls. Things a person could do naturally, but they are too weak and rather use the quickest way possible with less effort. Obvious confidence problems...

What you pay for and inject, I get for free. 185 lbs, 6 foot, muscular build. Didn't need drugs cuz I'm not a bitch. Drugs are for getting high, not artificial confidence imo.

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Ouch, my pride. :suicide:

Anyway, no, I use them cuz I'm too impatient, not cuz I'm too weak or have confidence issues. Plus I know lots of people who started at your size and they've got 40 pounds on you by training their asses off on steroids.

Just cuz someone would rather not take the long way doesn't make them a bitch, if you know anything about steroids you would know that people on steroids work harder than people who aren't.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: Eminence]
    #14645739 - 06/20/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Of course I could take roids and get bigger but why would I even want to get bigger. I have some friends that are way ripped and they only get dumb bitches like the ones on jersey shore... Like actual hot/smart girls are intimidated by the body or just stay away for whatever reason, I dunno but def not jealous of the girls they pull.

Being proud of your body on steroids is like being proud of banging a hooker. You didn't work for it you paid for it so generally society views people that take the easy way out or don't want to work for things (you know like thieves) as bitches and mock them...

Your last sentence makes no sense, there would be no appeal to take roids then... You mean they work "harder" for a shorter amount of time for better results? Newsflash, that's not actually working harder... You have to compare the same result, it'd be harder to get the same result without roids.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: John]
    #14645836 - 06/20/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, people cheat with supplements all the time and steroids are just a slight extension of that if anything....Things like fat burners, protein shakes, nitric oxide will all give you better results over someone that does not use anything...does that mean they are banging a hooker too?? People should be able to use whatever they wish to increase their build...you still got to put in the work with roids it aint like they magically get you bigger if you sit on ur ass and do nothing.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: thodub]
    #14645881 - 06/20/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Anyway, no, I use them cuz I'm too impatient, not cuz I'm too weak or have confidence issues.




This is exactly what I mean.

It doesn't really take that long to get in shape.

People who are actually committed to maintaining a high level of fitness don't need a head start.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: thodub]
    #14646029 - 06/20/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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thodub said:
Wow, people cheat with supplements all the time and steroids are just a slight extension of that if anything....Things like fat burners, protein shakes, nitric oxide will all give you better results over someone that does not use anything...does that mean they are banging a hooker too?? People should be able to use whatever they wish to increase their build...you still got to put in the work with roids it aint like they magically get you bigger if you sit on ur ass and do nothing.




yah and dating is totally comparable to paying for sex too right? No, you're just a moron.

protip: if you have to take something to stop your body from growing tits, you're a bitch.

also didn't say people should be put in jail or anything for steroids. Of course do whatever the fuck you want with your body as long as you don't hurt others. But expect to get laughed at and belittled by people that actually work for things they want.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: John]
    #14646274 - 06/21/11 12:17 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Steroids in sports are a way to help you to work harder. Muscles dont grow on trees, when you take steroids you still got to push yourself harder to see considerable gains.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: thodub]
    #14646325 - 06/21/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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it aint like they magically get you bigger if you sit on ur ass and do nothing.




Actually that's pretty much how they work.

They speed up recovery time and increase gains during recovery.

I don't have any problems with non-professional athletes taking roids, but i wouldn;t do it myself for health reasons

It's your body, and if you aren't hurting anyone else, by all means.


I think that the notion that you have to be big and muscular to attract women is a bit misguided though if that is your goal.

If you just want to bunk of for work, or something like that it could actually possibly help if done right.

People take steroids when they have had organ or other transplants and it lets them live longer.  Roids are not ALL bad, but there is a risk of abuse, and i don't recommend them.

I would look at modifying my diet/workout way before any thought of roids. 

Roids won't build the neural connections and muscle memory in the same way as natural, and you will be more clumsy and string instead of being strong and agile.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: Heffy]
    #14657612 - 06/23/11 12:55 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Heffy said:It's been pretty well agreed upon for thousands of years that use of performance enhancing drugs in sports is cheating, and disgraceful.



My bad, I didn't realise OP was planning on competing in a sport where PEDs are banned. He of course would be cheating at that sport if he were to use steroids.
I would recommend he doesn't use steroids to enhance his performance at said sport, whatever it is, as it would definitely be against the rules, and thus be cheating.
Breaking the rules is definitely cheating.
My point, do you see it yet?


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #14657618 - 06/23/11 12:57 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Idk where he got that idea. I never said what I was using it for, but it's for aesthetics, not sports.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: John]
    #14657627 - 06/23/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Your last sentence makes no sense, there would be no appeal to take roids then... You mean they work "harder" for a shorter amount of time for better results? Newsflash, that's not actually working harder... You have to compare the same result, it'd be harder to get the same result without roids.




No, I mean people on roids are able to train harder and longer every session than people who aren't on them.

So yeah they allow you to work harder. Idk how you can say people on roids don't work for what they get.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: Shins]
    #14657645 - 06/23/11 01:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Roids won't build the neural connections and muscle memory in the same way as natural, and you will be more clumsy and string instead of being strong and agile.




Do you have any way to prove this? I'm not saying you're wrong, just saying I've never noticed it or heard of that from anyone I know that's also done them.

The only thing I notice is that sometimes my tendons can be a little sore temporarily from having weight come on much faster than naturally.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: tripp23]
    #14994993 - 08/29/11 05:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Steroids are imo EASILY the most misunderstood of all common illicit 'drugs' (which is saying A LOT). When used by a knowledgeable individual there is virtually NO possible harm. Not to mention that liver damage isn't an issue if you stay away from orals and most ALL estrogenic problems can be counteracted.

I'm glad to see this forum uphold it's open-mindedness on such an issue.

EDIT: Shit I didn't realize how old this was lol.


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: SuperFunGuy]
    #14996076 - 08/29/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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EDIT: Shit I didn't realize how old this was lol.





this post IS fucking old but i'd like to see new life breathed into it


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Re: Views on Anabolic Steroids [Re: LayinUp]
    #15005185 - 08/31/11 05:12 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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this post IS fucking old but i'd like to see new life breathed into it




As would I


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