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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: GuruBushHippie]
    #14574200 - 06/07/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I smoke weed and usually have multiple dreams a night. Try melatonin, it really intensifies all aspects of dreaming. I take the 10mg caps most nights.

It's hard to remember when you have 6 or 7 dreams in 1 night, some of which were lengthy like a solid 10-20 minute scenario.

Sometimes when I'm dreaming and become lucid I regain access to lost memories of dreams too.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #14574703 - 06/07/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I started training LD about a week and a half-2 weeks ago. How long do you think before I start being able to recognize I'm dreaming? I've only had a few dreams during this time, which I noted. Actually, last night I know that I had like 4 dreams, but remember two of them. The other two are very fuzzy. Last night was a big step actually. Usually my dreams are like 1 or 2 a week, and not even more fuzzy memories, just in total. I had more dreams last night than I have since I started.

Also, when your lucid, I know you can fly, and do whatever you want pretty much, but do others in your dream react as you please or how they would normally, or something else? Like if I went up to my professor and said FUCK YOU, but wanted him to react a certain way, would he do that or fail me for the semester like normal?

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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: VTtripper]
    #14574834 - 06/07/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It could take months or it could happen tonight. Patience is key. Don't force it just stay hopeful that you'll suceed and eventually you will. As far as others in your sequences, at first they may react at random, but over time you can learn to manipulate the whole scenario. Patience , practice, and dillegence.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: VTtripper]
    #14575049 - 06/07/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I started training LD about a week and a half-2 weeks ago. How long do you think before I start being able to recognize I'm dreaming? I've only had a few dreams during this time, which I noted. Actually, last night I know that I had like 4 dreams, but remember two of them. The other two are very fuzzy. Last night was a big step actually. Usually my dreams are like 1 or 2 a week, and not even more fuzzy memories, just in total. I had more dreams last night than I have since I started.

Also, when your lucid, I know you can fly, and do whatever you want pretty much, but do others in your dream react as you please or how they would normally, or something else? Like if I went up to my professor and said FUCK YOU, but wanted him to react a certain way, would he do that or fail me for the semester like normal?




I honestly don't have any specific techniques I use to induce lucid dreaming, it just happens randomly and I'll be in the dream and say out loud things like "holy shit this is a dream" as I'm saying it to people in the dream. It's fucking fascinating. I'd say on average I lucid dream at least a few times a week, sometimes multiple times in one nights sleep.

I also smoke plenty of weed, some days copious amounts, and I always seem to dream and have at least some memory of them. A lot of people say when they smoke they can't remember their dreams at all/don't have dreams.

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I've been smoking for many years though. Maybe it was different when I was a beginner, I don't remember though, in relation to dreaming that is. The effects were definitely MUCH different back then, I miss those weed highs so much.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #14575123 - 06/07/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah weed suppresses dreams or dream recollection

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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: VTtripper]
    #14579826 - 06/08/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

most mind altering substances suppress dream recall.

at least in my experience


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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: k00laid]
    #14579880 - 06/08/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

when i was really young, my bro told me about lucid dreams. Well that night i didnt really have a lucid dream but it what happened was people were asking me 2 play ball and i was saying hold on wait until this dream ends ..0_0 lol

fast forward a couple years later and i started practicing lucid dreaming by looking at my hand every  hour or so and asking myself " am i dreaming " in reality , i had 5 fingers ofcourse, in the dream world though, my hand either had more fingers , less fingers, or seemed warped and streched like one of those picture editing programs can do . this technique worked better then any other for me. I had 2-3 lucid dreams a couple nights after practicing. It varys tho, i've gone about a week with lucid dreams every night, and i've gone a month or two without one lucid dream. I eventually got lazy, quit the reality checks and stopped lucid dreaming except for some lucky times.

if you wanna make it into this habit, you should also write your dreams down whenever you remember them. It helps you recall them alot better.

as with pot, i use to rarely remember my dreams until i had a tbreak where i had very vivid dreams. but now that i write them down as much as i can im remembering them alot more then before, even with smoking daily.

lucid dreaming is an amazing thing, ive experimented alot in the years i've been doing it

-thumbprints
-flying
-teleport
-telekenesis
-don't forget sex! D:
-calling out to god , see what happens, actually i met "god" in that dream
-driving in your dream car
-floating
the list goes on and on... there is nothing you can't do in a lucid dream. I've even tried walking into a portal into another dimnension, though it was so crazy that i woke up a few seconds after.

another good tip, when you start lucid dreaming , and have your first lucid dream, try not to do all these crazy things, you can and most likely will get excited and wake up. Start low, walk around , obvserve the sceneries. if you feel your dream start to end, spin. seriously this helped me tons of times and prolonged my dreams by alot.

also, rub your hands together. it increases the vividness of your dream.

now i've been doing reality checks / writing down dreams for a couple years now, and have lucid dreams a couple times a week.

op : thats pretty crazy, but i agree with you dreams can be so vivid, even more vivid then real life. i suggest you do constant reality checks. think of dreams as another reality. anyways how can someone say than they arent more real then this "reality"..

a pic i found on google- kind of looks like my hand in a dream if i still have 5 fingers lol


i've never had sleep parilysis though. ive tried inducing it a couple times, never had any luck tho

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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: explosivekush]
    #14581180 - 06/08/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Can you hunt and kill wild animals with your mind powers yet?

Reminds me of the hippy "shaman" who could talk to bears. Him and his girlfriend were accepted into the bear family. He decided to leave society and live with them. They were both eaten.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: maug]
    #14581400 - 06/08/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

lol. im talking about dreaming .. until u have a vivid lucid dream, you wont know how "real" they can actually feel. Sometimes more real than "reality". there is no limit to what you can do in a lucid dream. anything you can think of can be done. though like i said, don't ruin your first lucid experience by doing something too crazy, most likely you will get excited and wake up. take it slow and progress

@vttripper people in my lucid dreams usually react how i would want them to react. even non lucid dreams most of the time they will react how i would want them too. My dreams r the biggset mindfucks though.

for example :

i remember yesterday, i was walking a round outside, some random guy put a shotgun to my face and told me to sign a contract.I was thinking to myself *shit dont shoot* a random girl ran up at him and he tried shooting her, but there was no ammo in his gun. Then me and the girl proceeded to beat the shit out of him D: that wasnt lucid, but i remembered it pretty clearly

infact i got pointed at with guns many of times in lucid/ non lucid dreams, but for some reason i never got shot. Some people shot , but missed. and hell even if they do shoot you, trust me it will be a big dream sign because you wont feel shit. alot of my lucid dreams are induced not by looking at my hand in my dream, but something immpossible happening in my dream, or me just having a feeling that im dreaming, which happens alot these days but it all started with reality checks/ writing down dreams

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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: explosivekush]
    #14581437 - 06/08/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

After your first lucid experience, is it easier to get them? Or is it just as much of a trek as working to the first to get to the second?

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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: VTtripper]
    #14581490 - 06/08/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

well it depends if you know what to do in your first lucid experience.

everytime you sleep at night, you should fall asleep saying to yourself that your going to have a lucid dream that night. try to also plan what you want to do in your lucid dream before you sleep. trust me it helps alot.

my first lucid experience i woke up by getting to excited. you gotta remain calm even tho its :feelsgoodman: . Try to just walk around, explore your surroundings , talk to people etc. rub your hands together to increase vividy. do whatever/ just dont do advanced things like fucking , flying etc. and if you feel your dream ending, rub your hands together , or spin. it prolongs my dream every time. you will know when you feel your dream ending in a lucid dream. some dreams are very lucid , some are barely

after my first lucid dream, i had another lucid dream that week. Everyone is different though. Some people take months to get their first lucid dream, some the same night , weeks etc.

if you stay consistent with your reality checks / dream journal [ writing dreams down ] it will come in no time.

its more of your rc's / dream journals that will make you get alot of ld's. i can't answer that, because it varys. but you will notice that lucid feeling and it will probably be easier than your first time.

dont give up, hell it can happen tonight,

last night was a good sign, make sure you write down all your dreams right after you wake up , in as much detail as you can. You will eventually [ tonight-days-months , varys ] you remember every dream. everyone dreams every night, sometimes you just dont remember them.

dreams are usually 15 mins to half an hour. But dream time is alot longer then normal time.  alot of my lucid dreams occur in the morning or when i wake up at night because when i am really tired and can fall asleep in seconds. this is because i can tell myself that im going to have a lucid dream seconds before i fall asleep. Usually when i wake up and fall back asleep like this though i only sleep for another hour or so because of work. but i can tell you that all of the times i remembered my dreams during those times, they felt alot longer , like 6-8 hours. its a fact that dream time feels longer then normal time.

i've actually lived a week in a dream before. was ackward as hell when i woke up lol

you should have a lucid dream soon, gl to you, you'll probably have one tonight :wink:

remember dreams are usually based on whats going on in your life/ day.
just talking about lucid dreaming , having your mind on it is helping alot, but still reality checks are a must , dream journals r very beneficial if you want to remember your dreams often and in detail, and also help with ld's.

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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: explosivekush]
    #14581740 - 06/08/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The easiest way to check if you are dreaming is to look at like a clock or book, something with writing or set numbers. In the dream the words will not make sense in the book, or the clocks numbers will be out of wack.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: explosivekush]
    #14584704 - 06/09/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i've been shot, stabbed, and bitten by both spiders and snakes. in fact, i dreamt i stepped in a snake pit last night and let me tell you, every one of those experiences hurt like shit. woke up from the pain each time.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: GuruBushHippie]
    #14584717 - 06/09/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i got stabbed in a lucid dream :[

obviously wasnt very lucid, huh

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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: k00laid]
    #14584737 - 06/09/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

idk man, ive been stabbed in lucid dreams as well and i was totally lucid too. i think that at first lucidity is hard to apply to the full dream sequence (i.e. others in the sequence) but over time it becomes easy.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: GuruBushHippie]
    #14584759 - 06/09/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I always wanted to have awesome sex in a lucid dream.

So one time years ago when I managed to find myself lucid and dreaming, I tried to do just that. It was pretty weird. Somehow it ended up that I was a whale having sex with another whale in the ocean, I forgot I was dreaming quickly I think. ??? What the fuck does that mean?

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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: drr]
    #14584776 - 06/09/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

omg, the sex ive had in dreams.

allll my higschool crushes just got completely wrecked.


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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: drr]
    #14584782 - 06/09/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

holy shit dude i have no idea lol. i don't apply too much meaning to dreams. we just dont know enough about them to really say for certain that they do have meaning. it could have been that you fell asleep watching  planet earth: oceans, or it could be that you have a thing for whales :tongue: we just really don't know their significance


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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: GuruBushHippie]
    #14584868 - 06/09/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A couple nights ago, I got drunk in a dream. I had a bottle of wine to myself =P


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Re: Lucid Dreaming- Unthinkable breakthrough [Re: maug]
    #14584891 - 06/09/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have yet to get to the point where I can control where I am and who else is there etc. but within these randomly generated scenarios by my subconscious I do become lucid and aware that I am in a dream and that my body is asleep in my bed.

Btw one technique I read years ago when researching lucid dreaming that I've actually used with good results is if you feel like you're about to slip out of the dream and wake up look down at your hands, stare at them, and it can keep you in the dream longer.

I've read another technique about if you spin around and imagine in your mind what you want the dream setting to be it will be there when you turn around, but I tried that and it didn't work for me.


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