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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: 4896744]
    #14580134 - 06/08/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm back with an update...

I've succesfully landed and already attended a meeting a Neurobiologist from St.Catharines today at lunch and she is extremely impressed with the hypothesis and would like to see me again in three weeks.

A lot of discussion is taking place in this thread

http://boards.420chan.org/chem/res/55641.php

Feel free to join. I'd like to thank everyone for producing such a negative response to me, providing me enough energy to get to the next point to raising awareness about this theory.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14580220 - 06/08/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You are full of baloney.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx]
    #14580235 - 06/08/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Her name is Holly Smith and is attaining her PhD this year from Brock University in Neuroscience after 12 years.

I'm really not kidding around. Perhaps read the 420chan thread from start to finish to gain a broader understanding of what's been developing since Shroomery shot down the hypothesis so fast. The thread has been active since May 24th, and a previous thread in /psy/ was active from the start of this thread.

You will see there is a lot of legitimate scientific discussion happening, and perhaps you can find a place in it.

Edited by NikoK (06/08/11 02:56 PM)

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK] * 1
    #14580543 - 06/08/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Does she think you are cute?

Also, no such person found on google.

And please on a discussion of neuroscience please don't ever speak the sentence "I'm not kidding around here" followed by "just read the 420chan thread!" That just sounds horribly silly.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx]
    #14581011 - 06/08/11 05:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sorry google doesn't work as a student database most of the time...

I'm also sorry that within a discussion of neuroscience that those two sentences spoken one after the other cause you to feel as if what I'm saying is silly.

It's a chemistry section on an imageboard named 420chan, and the discussion of chemistry is taking place. Nothing silly about it.

Perhaps you shouldn't be so disbelieving, I will be frequently updating this thread and keeping an eye on the chem section of 420chan to reply to debates that are ongoing.

Perhaps you should call Brock University? I really don't know what to tell you in order to convince you of a truth. Only your own mind can tell you I'm lying.

EDIT: http://www.portialearning.com/about_KimMoore.htm

Holly Smith, BCaBA.

Edited by NikoK (06/08/11 05:36 PM)

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK] * 1
    #14581088 - 06/08/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Why don't you do us all a favor and not update this thread frequently with updates you read on 420chan. You aren't even discussing or provoking discussion on philosophy here. No one cares about the speculation going on at 420chan.


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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14581574 - 06/08/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You didn't answer my question.


Also, this woman has no experience in what you are attempting to study.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx]
    #14581639 - 06/08/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If I was a mind reader I'd say probably, she also has children who are my age.

This discussion is about psychology and fits in perfectly with the section.

This woman is receiving her PhD in NeuroScience, she is qualified to help and direct me to the appropriate faculties who she believes will also respond to me positively.

You older entities are acting in a very young way.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14581714 - 06/08/11 08:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"If I was a mind reader I'd say probably, she also has children who are my age."

Nice.

"This woman is receiving her PhD in NeuroScience, she is qualified to help and direct me to the appropriate faculties who she believes will also respond to me positively."

Are you looking for people to respond o you positively, or are you looking for the truth?

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx]
    #14581796 - 06/08/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm looking for people to pick apart every detail they wish to, question it, and answer those questions.

Empirical evidence only goes so far, and so does rational evidence. We need a large, conscious, group discussion about DMT, it's function, and it's neurological role by those who truly grasp the topics at hand.

I'm not looking for a positive response from people, I've got it from this neuroscientist and if I ignore the internet and continue the path, I'll be studying for my PhD shortly.

I just want to raise awareness, and get people talking. Good or bad.

I want the truth. Like everyone else.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14581848 - 06/08/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"I'm looking for people to pick apart every detail they wish to, question it, and answer those questions."

Why put this work on other people when you could easily do it yourself? You could learn a lot from doing it. Just look at how much of it you don't know for sure, then look at what it would take to find that out, but most importantly, what it would mean to find it out, and how it would be used.

I've looked at what you've written and honestly it would take me a long time to go through it line by line and it would be largely something you could do yourself if you could step back a bit and look at all this a little less personally. Even if what you say says anything about reality, its still not yours, its not special, and you are still mortal and easily forgotten.

I used to write sprawling texts myself in a vain attempt to create a document that could enlighten people, or so that I could find out how my own mind worked enough to do something with that information. All I really discovered is that I have no idea of what enlightenment really is and I could not find nor find the need for believing in the concept of mind.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx]
    #14581953 - 06/08/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Which is why I've met and will continue to meet this neuroscientist, to revise my thoughts and give them a goal.

I plan to attain my PhD in Neuroscience and continue my studies further.

A pseudoscientific approach is always the first approach, as no new approach can truly be scientific if it is genuinely inspired. Though it isn't to say that this approach will not contain scientific fact. Learning transcends science.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK] * 1
    #14582157 - 06/08/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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as no new approach can truly be scientific




BZZZZZT! :failboat:


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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14583134 - 06/09/11 01:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Before any theory is proven, it's pseudo scientific.

End of Story.

Time
Gravity
Density
E=MC2

These are all great examples of ideas that turned into science.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14583537 - 06/09/11 05:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Double post I've mistaken her last name.

Holly May is the PhD candidate I spoke with yesterday.

This has taken hold on the Joe Rogan forum and I appreciate if you would post there.

http://forums.joerogan.net/showthread.php?t=44554&page=51

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14583551 - 06/09/11 05:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

NikoK said:
Before any theory is proven, it's pseudo scientific.

End of Story.

Time
Gravity
Density
E=MC2

These are all great examples of ideas that turned into science.




Your level of education is very, very sad.


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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK] * 1
    #14583928 - 06/09/11 07:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Actually you need to read Popper on the difference between science and pseudoscience. Pseudoscientific hypotheses differ from scientific ones because they are not falsifiable, or other reasons, not because they haven't been accepted yet. Actually, acceptance is not a part of the scientific method and all "conclusions" of science are subject to revision.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: xFrockx]
    #14584580 - 06/09/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My level of education is actually very sad, and considering that level of education Holly May whos level of education is not even up for debate, is not only listening to me, but is amazingly impressed and is going to be seeing me in 3 weeks to continue our discussions.

I understand you two are much older and have been within the scene for the while, but things are changing very fast. Faster than you both realize for now.

Just please don't draw judgement before the chicken has hatched.

Perhaps follow the link to the Rogan board and partake in the literal scientific discussion of DMT's function as a metabolite responsible for  portions of our perception. I really don't want to spend time convincing you of truth when that truth is being exercised elsewhere.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
    #14584822 - 06/09/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm 23.

"Just please don't draw judgement before the chicken has hatched."

You need to be wary of false and ill-begotten approval. It will only harm you.

DMT does nothing for me. When I smoke DMT nothing happens. No visuals, nothing. The effects of tripping are a reflection of your thoughts. No thoughts, no distortions.

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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK] * 2
    #14585382 - 06/09/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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My level of education is actually very sad, and considering that level of education Holly May whos(sic) level of education is not even up for debate, is not only listening to me, but is amazingly impressed and is going to be seeing me in 3 weeks to continue our discussions.



Well, name-dropping and association has certainly convinced me that commonly-accepted defintions of words have changed overnight.


Quote:

I understand you two are much older and have been within the scene for the while, but things are changing very fast. Faster than you both realize for now.


Not only is this defensive tangent with a hint of mind-reading totally irrelevant - it also has zero information content. Bravo! :congrats:

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