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DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s
#14579188 - 06/08/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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So following 13shroom's STB Tek(or his copypasta from a source i cant remember (and im too lazy to look)), i froze my naptha overnight and poured it off and placed a fan ontop of it to dry the remaining naptha off the crystals... Now im left with a orange/yellow sludge..  Does this look normal to you guys? There are some white crystals around the top edge, but for the most part, its very yellow/orange..

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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: total]
#14579202 - 06/08/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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How much MHRB did you start with? The crystals around the edge is what you want.
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: Dave Bowman]
#14579203 - 06/08/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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100g I was very careful not to get any of the basified sludge from the bottom layer... The naptha was very piss colored...
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: total]
#14579427 - 06/08/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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total said: 100g I was very careful not to get any of the basified sludge from the bottom layer... The naptha was very piss colored...
What kind of Naptha did you use? Just some from the hardware store?
This is quite possibly just impurities leftover from solvent.
Did you test you solvent first by pouring a little amount in your crystallization vessel [in this case it looks like you are using either a jar or petri dish] and letting it evaporate completely overnight? And then seeing what is left?
You should always test your solvent for purity before actually using. All the yellow shit could just be impurities from the solvent but you'll never know unless you test first.
You could always do that now, pour some fresh solvent in a glass dish and let it evaporate 100%. if you are left with the same yellow shit that means your solvent is much to dirty to use.
EDIT: One time I used Coleman's fuel as the solvent and was left with very pink crystals but nothing that looks like your pics, like the yellow sludge in the middle.
I fixed my product by re-crystallizing and was left with very pure, white crystals.
Your actual crystals look crystal white so I think that just may be dirty solvent.
Try the solvent test first.
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: Dave Bowman]
#14579446 - 06/08/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also if you could find Toluene as your solvent, you may have better luck. Only evaporate the toluene in a WELL ventilated area or in a garage / shed though. It's carcinogenic.
Also, you'll increase your yield a bit using toluene because only toluene pulls "jungle spice" out of MHRB, it's not soluble in Naptha.
Read around DMT-Nexus about Jungle Spice.
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: Dave Bowman]
#14579555 - 06/08/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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The naptha was just bought at home depot...  It was very clear, until mixed with the basified sludge, then it turned piss yellow... Its the VM&P type... Ill do a evap test tonight to see... In the meantime, do i need to heat the naptha to get the crystals to redissolve?
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: total]
#14579692 - 06/08/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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total said: The naptha was just bought at home depot...  It was very clear, until mixed with the basified sludge, then it turned piss yellow... Its the VM&P type... Ill do a evap test tonight to see... In the meantime, do i need to heat the naptha to get the crystals to redissolve?
Hmmmm so the only time the Naptha turned colored was once in contact with your basified MHRB solution? It sounds like you just pulled some extra garbage with your DMT. A simple Re-crystallization should take care of this, most likely.
Also I would still do the evaporation test on your solvent, just to make sure you didn't get an extra-dirty batch of Naptha, for whatever reason.
It depends on ambient temps where you are at. If its warm enough ambient temperature, your Xtals should dissolve fine in the Naptha.
But if you are looking to re-crystallize anyways, you're going to have to heat your Naptha for that regardless.
Hope this helps and good luck!
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: Dave Bowman]
#14579778 - 06/08/11 01:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can you point me to a good recrystalization tek?
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: total]
#14579807 - 06/08/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nm... In the Tek i found, they are doing it with dry finished product... Think heating naptha and adding it to the sludge is ok?
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: total]
#14579955 - 06/08/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I heated up some naptha, and then swirled it around for a few mins... I was left with 2 layers...
Bottom layer was the nasty sludge...

And then a nice piss colored Top layer of Naptha

Throwing it in the freezer and hoping all goes well!
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: john6886]
#14580012 - 06/08/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes i did... I never thought of adding a larger bottom water layer for the impurities to fall to... If this freeze doesnt handle it, ill give that a go...
Should i bring the ph of the water up to 13?
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: john6886]
#14580098 - 06/08/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats the tek i was following...
When you say...
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john6886 said: I took my entire solution and added another 800 ML's of water and this seemed to fix my woes.
Do you mean you dumped your naptha back in with the root bark and added more water? Or just added water to the naptha?
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: john6886]
#14580144 - 06/08/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ill double the water/lye solution on my next batch... Im just to far ahead atm to start back over... I've been told recrystalization can clean it  So i might as well try that...
I think maybe next time 2x water, 2x lye, and 1.5x mhrb
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: total]
#14580148 - 06/08/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh John... What was your avg yield with this STB tek off 100g bark?
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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: john6886]
#14580289 - 06/08/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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So after the freeze, the crystals came out much less Orange/yellow... Def Cleaner stuff!  Im gonna let this completely dry and then try another recrystalization with as little naptha as possible!

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Re: DMT Extraction of MHRB ?'s [Re: total]
#14584452 - 06/09/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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total said: So after the freeze, the crystals came out much less Orange/yellow... Def Cleaner stuff!  Im gonna let this completely dry and then try another recrystalization with as little naptha as possible!
 
from the picture it looks kinda goopy.looks like you got some moisture in your jar.
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