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Does language detract from human experience?
    #14576231 - 06/07/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If we can attach a label to anything we see, and feel compelled to attach labels to any new concept or object we come across, do we do so in exchange for some of the ability to feel? I think that is the so called "childhood magic," meaning our interpretation of the world simply based on feeling. As we age and learn words and concepts, every time we react to stimuli hundreds of words flood our head that we use to attempt to analyze and describe the experience with, but does that detract from the experience itself?


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Re: Does language detract from human experience? [Re: Caine]
    #14576241 - 06/07/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Does language detract from human experience?




To answer your question, first ask it without using words, mkay?


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Re: Does language detract from human experience? [Re: Caine]
    #14576262 - 06/07/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

the question un-asks itself


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Re: Does language detract from human experience? [Re: Caine]
    #14576283 - 06/07/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know. Does it detract from your human experience?


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Re: Does language detract from human experience? [Re: xFrockx]
    #14576316 - 06/07/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

In some ways, I believe it does. The wonder and awe you experience when seeing or feeling something for the first time is dulled when you know what to expect.


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Re: Does language detract from human experience? [Re: Caine]
    #14576323 - 06/07/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Faustian bargain.:shrug:


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Re: Does language detract from human experience? [Re: Caine]
    #14576329 - 06/07/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"In some ways, I believe it does. "

Does that belief detract from your human experience? Is it really true?

"The wonder and awe you experience when seeing or feeling something for the first time is dulled when you know what to expect. "

I see everything in my life for the first time, I never see the same thing twice.


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Re: Does language detract from human experience? [Re: xFrockx]
    #14576392 - 06/07/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well then you are obviously not bound by this problem.

Personally, I am an analytical mind. Rather than falling back on simply declaring something "inexplicable" I will try to seek reason behind it. But sometimes I wonder if those of us who prefer to fall back on "inexplicable" have a certain ease of mind that I will never know.


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Re: Does language detract from human experience? [Re: Caine]
    #14578783 - 06/08/11 09:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"Personally, I am an analytical mind. Rather than falling back on simply declaring something "inexplicable" I will try to seek reason behind it. But sometimes I wonder if those of us who prefer to fall back on "inexplicable" have a certain ease of mind that I will never know. "

I don't fall back on anything. Cept my bed or couch when im tired. :yawn:


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Re: Does language detract from human experience? [Re: Caine]
    #14579082 - 06/08/11 10:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i think if you believe it does detract from your experience, then yea, it could.

i also believe that if you feel that it enhances your human experience, it will also do that.

i understand where you're coming from, but to be honest it only matters what your opinion on the matter is.

i believe that language can have both positive and negative effects, especially over long periods of time, but it also is an effective tool for survival.


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Re: Does language detract from human experience? [Re: Caine]
    #14579578 - 06/08/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well I think raw experience can be achieved through the shedding of syntactical and linguistic tools that we use to disect the information our brain recieves, but the benefit of language is too great to go without.

Language is necessary, not just for communication but for realizing the true nature of existence and experience. We have yogic, medatative and entheogenic practices at hand so we do have the best of both worlds.


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