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The Red Book
    #14566043 - 06/05/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I can't believe I'm gonna do this, but I'm about to spend a hundred dollars on a book. It's called The Red Book, and is by Carl Jung. It's a sixteen year diary of hallucinations he self induced to get to the core of the human psyche. It looks to be.. A very unique and rewarding read. His writings are some of the most inspirational I've read, so that plus the content the book contains is justifying this for me.

If anyone has read this, how good actually is it?

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Re: The Red Book [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14566076 - 06/05/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I haven't read it but I certainly would like to.  He was a strange guy.


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Re: The Red Book [Re: Icelander]
    #14566111 - 06/05/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That he was. But then again, most super intelligent people are strange.

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Re: The Red Book [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14566135 - 06/05/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think it would be a much more fruitful endeavor to create your own Red Book. You can only go so far with someone else's symbols.

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Re: The Red Book [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14566151 - 06/05/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I already am. I document all my mystical experiences and dreams in two leather bound books. However, reading someones sixteen year compilation of their red book would be worth it to me.

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Re: The Red Book [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14566313 - 06/05/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds very interesting brother, keep us posted on how it comes along if you do end up purchasing!

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Re: The Red Book [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14566558 - 06/05/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I already am. I document all my mystical experiences and dreams in two leather bound books. However, reading someones sixteen year compilation of their red book would be worth it to me.




Good stuff. :thumbup: I also record my dreams and mystical experiences. In fact I'd say its one of the best things I started doing as far as a personal spirituality goes. Any success connecting with your personal Philemon?

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Re: The Red Book [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14566618 - 06/05/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I agree strongly about it being one of the best things you can do to get in touch with yourself and your subconscious. Well, I believe I have contacted a higher aspect of myself. It seems to not really be able to leave me now that I have contacted it. It's nice to have it though. I think it has something to do with focusing on the non-physical more rather than the physical.

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Re: The Red Book [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14567067 - 06/05/11 10:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I too record dreams and mystical experiences myself. It is always interesting to write things down and go back and read them; I seem to be able to interpret them a little better after a little while. I have found that by writing things down and pondering them I to have that connection with my higher self that seems to stick around.

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Re: The Red Book [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14567137 - 06/05/11 10:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yea, definitely.

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Re: The Red Book [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14567262 - 06/05/11 11:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I can upload it if you'd like to save yourself some money.


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Re: The Red Book [Re: blewmeanie]
    #14567269 - 06/05/11 11:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Intronaut beat you to it man. Thanks for the offer though! I'm still gonna buy it though in a few months. I like to have hard copies of things like this.

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Re: The Red Book [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14567417 - 06/05/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:thumbup:

The hardback version is really nice. I love how he turned his journal into an "illuminated manuscript". Especially all the pictures.


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Re: The Red Book [Re: MLDSMDA] * 1
    #14575259 - 06/07/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I am familiar with the Red Book, but CGJ wrote it in Latin with Illuminations - very medieval flavor. I believe there are parts in German. I am not sure if it has been translated into English, and if it hasn't, then, being monolingual, it's not worth the price for me. I enjoy the pen-and-ink work that I have seen of the red Book, but the idea is (after 8 years of Jungian analysis) that you must make your own journal. Those representations of Philemon, Jung's projected 'mana personality' are HIS versions of the same archetypes that populate your psyche and mine.

If you don't read Latin or Swiss-German, see if it's translated. I am not very good at drawing (some of my drawings are in the Gallery here), but whatever one's skill level or style, it's more important to create your own. Otherwise, one joins the "Jung Cult" as author Richard Noll put it, one aggrandizes Jung instead of following his therapeutic advice. Draw your dream images and write descriptions, commentaries and don't forget to put down the attending emotions. Read Jungian analyst Barbara Hannah's work Encounters with the Soul: Active Imagination,  and learn a 20th century school of 'magick' wherein you contact your dream creatures, and dialogue with them, receiving THEIR responses! Don't join the Jung Cult. That's what most so-called Christians do with Jesus, instead of being Christ-like, they put Jesus on a pedestal (a cross, actually). Just my 2cents.


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Re: The Red Book [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14575394 - 06/07/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I know, Cosmo sort of already brought up "making your own redbook would be a much more fruitful endeavor" and my answer to that was that I already was. Actually before I even knew Jung had wrote the red book. There is some english translations also. But I understand what your saying, and I agree with it completely. I just want to read his sixteen year journey through the psyche, and learn about his experiences and what he has to say about them.

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Re: The Red Book [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14575433 - 06/07/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm just going to chime in and say it seems you're pretty attached to the idea of attaining this book. For whatever reason you do not seem to be looking at yourself as the beholder of all answers. During ones own spiritual growth, the Spirit provides one with all necessities of further growing. This may be most commonly attained in meditation, dreams or lucid projections of the consciousness but nonetheless, the Spirit provides.

When one skips over the 'Spirits recommendation' of stepping stones, and goes to other books or tactics, one may seem to be getting farther ahead but a piece of the foundation will be left incomplete.

Reading books on other peoples experience or communicating with others is a great way to remember truth. I would just say feel out where you are currently in your growth and development. Sometimes the ego uses very brilliant tactics to completely distract us. It will look to others for something the Spirit is ready to provide.

Good luck on your endeavor, brother.

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Re: The Red Book [Re: MLDSMDA]
    #14576006 - 06/07/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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MLDSMDA said:
I know, Cosmo sort of already brought up "making your own redbook would be a much more fruitful endeavor" and my answer to that was that I already was. Actually before I even knew Jung had wrote the red book. There is some english translations also. But I understand what your saying, and I agree with it completely. I just want to read his sixteen year journey through the psyche, and learn about his experiences and what he has to say about them.




Maybe I should show you one of my own journals. :lol:  I gave it a name like Jung's book Memories, Dreams, Reflections. I named mine Dreams, Visions and Theophanies. I began it on Halloween 1989, and there are still a few pages left. Its a couple of inches thick. Meanwhile, I began a new book on 08/08/08. The first one turned into more synchronicities and mushroom cultivations than either dreams or visions. It shows a development away from my primary Jungian orientation (especially after I was rejected from analytical training - essentially because I use psychedelics). Today, Grof's work embodies both Freud and Jung, but also Otto Rank, and transpersonal theorists. Then, there is my own model which I wrote as a doctoral dissertation. It follows the ascending and descending paths outlived in Tibetan Buddhist Yoga, moving from deterministic motivations, and morphing, through Jung, to existential theorists. The higher one goes, the less determined and freer one's consciousness becomes. Sorry for the digression.


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Re: The Red Book [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14578382 - 06/08/11 06:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'd love to read your stuff Markos, you seem kind of brilliant.


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Re: The Red Book [Re: circastes]
    #14578983 - 06/08/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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circastes said:
I'd love to read your stuff Markos, you seem kind of brilliant.




I think it would definitely be interesting! In fact id love to read everyone's stuff, I'm sure it would leave me with good vibes and lots to ponder.

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Re: The Red Book [Re: don_vedo]
    #14579433 - 06/08/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'd only read Markos' book if he puts "Markos the Gnostic" as the author name. :grin:

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