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OfflineBabyGodFetus
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Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage
    #14574207 - 06/07/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So I extracted 3 feet of san pedro cactus and got a nice small pile of brown powder that is mescaline acetate. The only problem is that it's too light for my scale to read, either that or my scale sucks.

So how much should I take? I want a strong experience, but nothing epic (saving that for the end of summer). Should I just split the pile into 3 equal piles and take 2 of the 3?


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: BabyGodFetus]
    #14574226 - 06/07/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

get a better scale


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: Gotlib]
    #14574263 - 06/07/11 12:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

if im not mistaken it's 12" per person. so take that pile and split it in 3 so you have 3 'trips'. Or 2 piles for a heavy trip(?)

Need confirmation on that but I'm pretty sure its a foot of san pedro per person


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: FrenchFryed]
    #14574542 - 06/07/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

alright thanks man


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: BabyGodFetus]
    #14574593 - 06/07/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Split it in half. There's bound to be some inefficiency in your first mescaline extraction.

Your scale should be able to pick up any appreciable mescaline dosage though.
0.1g = 100mg. a threshold dose.
and you should have a bit more than that.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14576596 - 06/07/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It's very forgiving.... I agree... Do half


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: BabyGodFetus]
    #14576773 - 06/07/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I wanna try mesc more than any drug. Mesc and 2C-B. Those are on my hitlist.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #14576785 - 06/07/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It also depends on how many pulls you did, and your extraction efficiency, etc.

It should read on a conventional scale though, unless you have less than 100mg - in which case you should take the whole amount!

So yeah, it sounds like you have <100mg and now have some more pulls to do.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: BabyGodFetus]
    #14577372 - 06/07/11 11:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

take it all.  It isn't going to hurt you.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14580743 - 06/08/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I took half of it today in orange juice and it did NOTHING! Then I came back home and licked the other half off the plate and it again did nothing... complete garbarge. Isn't mescaline acetate supposed to be a tan powder? Because thats what I ended up with. And it tasted a little bitter


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: BabyGodFetus]
    #14580807 - 06/08/11 04:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That really sucks, are you talking any meds? You didn't feel anything?


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: Harri]
    #14580871 - 06/08/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

no meds and no nothin. Zip, zilch, ZERO!!! Come to think of it, after i washed the stuff 3 times with MEK, i forgot that my freezer had mold growing in it, so i decided to drip some d-limonene and vinegar onto the mesc to kill anything bad on it, and I put the leftover vinegar wash in my basement. Maybe the mesc migrated to the vinegar... but then what the hell was that tan powder? I guess ill just drink the vinegar wash tomorrow as a last ditch resort.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: BabyGodFetus]
    #14580998 - 06/08/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Man... Lame... What a shame

Did a 14 inch San Pedro... Fresh extraction and tea... Felt it, but would have liked more... Much more

The fresh extraction those, gave me the runs... But was feeling it for like 10 hrs

Think I will stick with mushrooms....


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: HarryL]
    #14581156 - 06/08/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yea dude im so dissapointed, spent like 2 weeks of hard work on it and got nothin. I think im gonna go cry in the corner now :sad:

Yeah maybe ill just try a straight up tea of the cactus. I've heard so many good things about mescaline and I refuse to give up on it just yet! Although an extraction would be hella convenient... fuck


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: BabyGodFetus]
    #14581229 - 06/08/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

BabyGodFetus said:
yea dude im so dissapointed, spent like 2 weeks of hard work on it and got nothin. I think im gonna go cry in the corner now :sad:

Yeah maybe ill just try a straight up tea of the cactus. I've heard so many good things about mescaline and I refuse to give up on it just yet! Although an extraction would be hella convenient... fuck




Try bridgesii next time.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: healing]
    #14581569 - 06/08/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Try bridgesii next time.





This ^^


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: Connoisseur]
    #14587747 - 06/09/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

No... dude...

This is what happened:

YOU HAD LESS THAN 100mg!!

This means you had a sub threshold experience, and also explains why it didn't read on your scale that is designed to weigh things in 100mg increments...

If you took 300-400mg of the same material (.3-.4 on your scale) you would have had a very noticeable experience.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #14588165 - 06/09/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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ReoSpeedwagon153 said:
No... dude...

This is what happened:

YOU HAD LESS THAN 100mg!!

This means you had a sub threshold experience, and also explains why it didn't read on your scale that is designed to weigh things in 100mg increments...

If you took 300-400mg of the same material (.3-.4 on your scale) you would have had a very noticeable experience.



Probably

OP check your scale. A nickel weighs five grams exactly, a dollar weighs one gram. A penny weighs 2.5. Check for accuracy but also just to see that it works. If it picks up a dollar (one gram) accurately it should be able to weigh your mescaline powder accurately too.

Also I've heard that digital scales work better pre-loaded with some weight, rather than just placing a very light substance directly on the scale's surface. Put a plastic pill container or a film canister on there or something and tare it, then put the powder on/in that.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: drr]
    #14588223 - 06/09/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ahh ok yeah I'll test my scale out with those coins and see if it works, but I think im just gonna invest in a nice mg scale.

I actually figured out why I didn't feel anything, when u wash the impure mescaline acetate with MEK ur supposed to make the MEK anhydrous by mixing it with epsom salts and decanting off the MEK, but I didn't know that you had to bake the epsom salts in the oven to make them anhydrous too.. so basically my mescaline went down the drain along with the MEK haha.

I'm gonna learn from my mistakes and try this again in a couple weeks!


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #14589569 - 06/10/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ReoSpeedwagon153 said:
No... dude...

This is what happened:

YOU HAD LESS THAN 100mg!!

This means you had a sub threshold experience, and also explains why it didn't read on your scale that is designed to weigh things in 100mg increments...

If you took 300-400mg of the same material (.3-.4 on your scale) you would have had a very noticeable experience.




This

That sucks man. Good luck next time. Let us know if the vinegar did anything.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #14589597 - 06/10/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

ReoSpeedwagon153 said:
No... dude...

This is what happened:

YOU HAD LESS THAN 100mg!!

This means you had a sub threshold experience, and also explains why it didn't read on your scale that is designed to weigh things in 100mg increments...

If you took 300-400mg of the same material (.3-.4 on your scale) you would have had a very noticeable experience.




This. Writing off mescaline because you didn't take enough seems silly. :smile:

Also 69ron's tek will remove a lot of the "goodies" (i.e. other phenethylamines) from your mescaline.
I would minimize the washes especially if you decide to use Bridgesii.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14590196 - 06/10/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

How simple is the extraction process? Which is the simplest to extract from?

San Pedro and Bridgesii are legal to purchase/grow right?

Still though I'm not sure if I'd be able to drink the nasty cactus sludge brew, I got a weak stomach. Is it too much to put into gelcap(s)?


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #14591613 - 06/10/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't read ANYTHING in this thread, but you DO realize that it's possible to overdose on mescaline, correct? 1,000 mg will kill you.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: occollegeboi]
    #14591649 - 06/10/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

San Pedro is notoriously weak.  Definitely try bridgesii next time.  And as someone else said, don't do any washes on bridgesii, because you don't want to get rid of the other awesome chemicals that are in it.


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I didn't read ANYTHING in this thread, but you DO realize that it's possible to overdose on mescaline, correct? 1,000 mg will kill you.




1 gram is definitely not the letal dose of mescaline...  But he had less than 100mg, so I'm not sure what your point is.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: occollegeboi]
    #14593793 - 06/11/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: occollegeboi]
    #14594392 - 06/11/11 05:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

occollegeboi said:
I didn't read ANYTHING in this thread, but you DO realize that it's possible to overdose on mescaline, correct? 1,000 mg will kill you.




Check your sources on that one.  According to this data sheet from Erowid, the LD50 was anywhere from 64mg/kg to 880mg/kg (roughly).  Unless you weigh 20kg, 1g of mescaline would not be lethal, at least according to these tests.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mescaline/mescaline_datasheet1.shtml


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: BothHands]
    #14594952 - 06/11/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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San Pedro is notoriously weak.  Definitely try bridgesii next time.  And as someone else said, don't do any washes on bridgesii, because you don't want to get rid of the other awesome chemicals that are in it.




Cool, nice tip. Is the alkaloid level in the bridgesii cacti a lot higher than in SP?


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: FrenchFryed]
    #14595166 - 06/11/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I haven't really read anything good coming of washing the mescaline acetate with MEK. Seems to produce more problems than it's worth from the majority of accounts I've seen. Just figured I'd throw that out there.

I did about 350mg of acetate from a Peruvian Torch and it was pretty weak. It wasn't really a powder, more of a clumpy, somewhat pliable orange/brown mass cut into very small pieces. Not even very comparable in intensity to a half eighth of decent cubensis. Honestly just going to go for over a gram next time if I get a chance.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: Best]
    #14595438 - 06/11/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I ate about 800mgs of mesc. acetate extracted from peruvian torch and was only mildly tripping. Granted it was my first extraction and probably was rather impure but I was hoping for more. The extraction is pretty easy though so I will probably give it another go or try the resin route but for sure will use bridgesii, only thing is the d-lemonene ain't cheap neither is the powder. Might just go the resin route or alcohol extraction.


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Re: Eyeballing Mescaline Dosage [Re: thedream]
    #14595486 - 06/11/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've eaten 250mg of P. Torch acetate that I cleaned with MEK and it was very strong.

The MEK wash removes a lot of non-mescaline stuff that weakens your product.

For your first time experimenting with cactus, I recommend a tea or resin though. Mescaline (and its extractions) takes a little getting used to!

As has probably been mentioned though - pure mescaline isn't a get-up-on-top-of-you kind of drug. It's a really go-with-the-flow kind of thing. You can turn off the trip using willpower even at moderate doses... It's like you can just escape into the speedy part of the high and leave the psychedelic part behind if you so choose.


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