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Thinking of taking religion more seriously...
    #14570484 - 06/06/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have always been a believer of God, i have even had spiritual expereineces whist on mushrooms.. so recently i've been talking to people at work who are church goers and i've become fasinated with The Bible and what it preaches. I really feel i want to live a good life and am thinking about starting to go to church on Sunday's... I have never felt this way before yet i feel if i do it will benefit me greatly. I have sinned in my life i think we all have, but i would like to know that God will have mercy on my soul. Can anyone give me guidance on this?

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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: microdotty]
    #14570550 - 06/06/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah its up to you whether you show yourself mercy or not , God is not separate from your soul , it is your soul just not your 'you' cause your 'you' is just a mechanism used to avoid the fear of death , silly though since its inevitable.

But i could feel you on a level of surrounding yourself with positive people , at the same time Christians are no different to all the other fear based humanoids so :rolleyes:


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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: Withinity]
    #14570654 - 06/06/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Go for it. Explore your authentic self in any way you can. Look for truth and communion with the universe.

Hint: if you do it right, you'll end up a nihilist eventually anyway.


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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: Withinity]
    #14570753 - 06/06/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, the simple question you're going to have to answer for yourself is: Do you seek comfortability, or personal freedom in life? If you desire comfort more then the latter, then Christianity is right up your alley. I also highly recommend the military branch, or maybe working for some large multi-national corporation. They will give you all the comfort you desire, all you need to do is give up your personal freedom and they will show you a bigger purpose, and you can be as peripheral as you wish to be in the grand scheme of all this.

If on the other hand you wish to experience personal freedom on a much deeper level, then you will need to first transcend the illusion of culture and most ideologies you have ever heard of(religion etc). This is a much harder path, much more painful and much less forgiving, however in my humble opinion yields the most promising result and is the closest to the 'truth' that one can ever come close to.

However, as I said earlier, it will be difficult and it will require much transformation if you are thinking about joining a religion. You will have to dig deep within your own psyche and will have to get rid of a lot of programming that you have been fed since they day you were born. It will be painful and you might even fail at this more then once. Failure is a definite possibility on this path, however so is success and the deepest insights to whatever it is you are searching. Usually, people spend years searching only to realize that they were looking for something which was always there, and it is usually the most simplistic in detail. Anger/disassociation will probably follow for a few minutes which will probably then be followed by huge amounts of uncontrollable laughter.

Like I said, you may fail... but if you give yourself up to culture and ideology/institutions... then you have already failed. Here's a few short vids that may help explain better :goodluck:





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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: laserpig]
    #14570831 - 06/06/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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laserpig said:
Go for it. Explore your authentic self in any way you can. Look for truth and communion with the universe.

Hint: if you do it right, you'll end up a nihilist eventually anyway.





:thumbup: Follow your heart and you will find your way!

Lah'Kesh


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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: foliocb]
    #14570864 - 06/06/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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foliocb said:
Well, the simple question you're going to have to answer for yourself is: Do you seek comfortability, or personal freedom in life? If you desire comfort more then the latter, then Christianity is right up your alley. I also highly recommend the military branch, or maybe working for some large multi-national corporation. They will give you all the comfort you desire, all you need to do is give up your personal freedom and they will show you a bigger purpose, and you can be as peripheral as you wish to be in the grand scheme of all this.



I'm so sick of people spouting these kind of bullshit generalizations.  Christianity is not a monolith.  Sure, there are some denominations that demand a lot of blind belief and conformity, but there are others that are all about helping you find your own path to God.  I belong to the latter kind of church.  They're much more about practice than about belief.  It is through the practice of prayer and communal worship that an individual is able to reconcile themselves with the divine.  Institutions are not inherently bad.  In many ways they can represent accumulated wisdom.


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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: Silversoul]
    #14570903 - 06/06/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm so sick of people spouting these kind of bullshit generalizations.  Christianity is not a monolith.  Sure, there are some denominations that demand a lot of blind belief and conformity, but there are others that are all about helping you find your own path to God.  I belong to the latter kind of church.  They're much more about practice than about belief.  It is through the practice of prayer and communal worship that an individual is able to reconcile themselves with the divine.  Institutions are not inherently bad.  In many ways they can represent accumulated wisdom.





:thumbup: I enjoyed this post!

Reading a book or watching the movie is just about the same as going to church. It is in fact about the practice and not the preach, it's about the experience through and through any less than the experience and your limiting yourself to whatever it is your looking for.

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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: foliocb]
    #14570911 - 06/06/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: Silversoul]
    #14571004 - 06/06/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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foliocb said:
Well, the simple question you're going to have to answer for yourself is: Do you seek comfortability, or personal freedom in life? If you desire comfort more then the latter, then Christianity is right up your alley. I also highly recommend the military branch, or maybe working for some large multi-national corporation. They will give you all the comfort you desire, all you need to do is give up your personal freedom and they will show you a bigger purpose, and you can be as peripheral as you wish to be in the grand scheme of all this.



I'm so sick of people spouting these kind of bullshit generalizations.  Christianity is not a monolith.  Sure, there are some denominations that demand a lot of blind belief and conformity, but there are others that are all about helping you find your own path to God.  I belong to the latter kind of church.  They're much more about practice than about belief.  It is through the practice of prayer and communal worship that an individual is able to reconcile themselves with the divine.  Institutions are not inherently bad.  In many ways they can represent accumulated wisdom.







This is what ideologies tend to do- create contradictions. For every 'good' practitioner, you get stuff like the video I linked.  Unfortunately, one bad apple DOES spoil the bunch, you can't simply expect me to ignore this shit... it's not as simple as picking and choosing what agrees with you and ignore the stuff that doesn't. You have to look at both ends of the spectrum, and quite frankly, it looks like shit when I look at the bigger picture of ideologies such as christianity. Christianity has been the largest reactionary force for thousands of years, effectively creating many wars and hindering science for centuries. Count me out...



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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: microdotty]
    #14571006 - 06/06/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You should check out Gnosticism - it's a pretty cool form of Christianity. It would be rare to hear much about it in any church though. My religion is the Perennial Philosophy, the same non-dual message of compassion for your fellow man which the mystics have espoused for centuries.

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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: foliocb]
    #14571044 - 06/06/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

After I explicitly point out how Christianity is not a monolith, you post some shit about the Westboro Baptist Church?  Fuck off with that attitude, man!  That's like if I were to post a video of the Charlie Sheen interview and say that's how all drug users are.  You're being every bit as dogmatic and close-minded as the people you attack.  No one's asking you to become a Christian, but quit attacking that which you know nothing about.


Anyway, since we're posting videos, here's a theologian from the church I belong to:




And another:




And lest you think they're mere outliers, here's the head of the church:




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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: Silversoul]
    #14571065 - 06/06/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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No one's asking you to become a Christian





:rofl2:

I beg the differ. I got approached by two 'god salesman' last friday and tried for a very long time to convince me that I was going to hell if I didn't obey gods plan.

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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: foliocb]
    #14571231 - 06/06/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, those two people don't speak for "Christianity" as a whole, as much as they wish they did. Generalizing any large group of people has it's inherent problems.

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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14571364 - 06/06/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Well, those two people don't speak for "Christianity" as a whole




Then neither does silversoul.

And every time I do try to view Christianity as a whole, the cons seem to always outweigh the pros. Christianity and most other major religions imo have been the same for thousands of years with no change in sight. All fundamentally flawed at the core- to divide rather then unite.

Religion is no more then cultural furniture and no longer serves its function here imo and transcendence from such one-dimensional thinking is where the first task lies. :boot:


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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: foliocb]
    #14571378 - 06/06/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I love how you accuse religion of dividing rather than uniting, while you're being the most divisive person in this thread.  If you really believed in uniting rather than dividing, you'd have more of a "live and let live" attitude toward religion.  But you choose dogmatism instead.  You are everything that you claim to be against.


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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: Silversoul]
    #14571407 - 06/06/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I love how you accuse religion of dividing rather than uniting, while you're being the most divisive person in this thread.  If you really believed in uniting rather than dividing, you'd have more of a "live and let live" attitude toward religion.  But you choose dogmatism instead.  You are everything that you claim to be against.




When religions cease to clash with each other, especially islam and christianity, then I will take back what I said. However as I mentioned, unity is just a sales pitch that religion advertises to get more followers. None obviously cares about true, worldwide unity. If religion did, there wouldn't be clashes that still go on till this day. Westboro wouldn't exist. No form of extremism would exist, yet it's all present in every religion. Why? Because religion is fundamentally flawed and thus will create contradictions.

If you wish to preach that Christianity is awesome then be prepared to defend the Westboro church and every other wack job out there that claims to be a 'true Christian'

:ahahaha: :goodluck:


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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: foliocb]
    #14571421 - 06/06/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not here to preach that Christianity is awesome.  I'm here to say that it's diverse.  Meanwhile, you're just pigeonholing 2.2 billion people based on the actions of a small minority.  That's called prejudice, it's total bullshit.  Grow up.


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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: Silversoul]
    #14571452 - 06/06/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I love how you accuse religion of dividing rather than uniting, while you're being the most divisive person in this thread.

Please don't think you're speaking for anyone but yourself.  I think his stance is to ultimately unite.


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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: Silversoul]
    #14571461 - 06/06/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

actions of a small minority.

I don't think so. Of course some are worse than others but in this country I would say a majority believe that if you don't accept JC as your personal savior you face the fires of hell.


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Re: Thinking of taking religion more seriously... [Re: Silversoul]
    #14571462 - 06/06/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

How do you know what is and isnt a small minority?  Because, I think that your type of church is more likely the small minority.  To assume otherwise is a generalization and prejudice just the same as what you accused him of.

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