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Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy
    #14568499 - 06/06/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)



CALGARY - As soon as Richard Mulvihill popped his fourth ecstasy pill at the Strathmore, Alta., Skateboard Park Friday, he knew he was in trouble.

The 19-year-old was in Strathmore hospital soon after, fading in and out of consciousness as his buddy, Jonathan Herrmann, 15, lay dying beside him from taking eight pills.

"He's having a seizure!" are the last words Mulvihill remembers hearing before blacking out - it is only now he understands they were about Herrmann.

"The nurses told me my buddy died ... I cried," he said.

"I don't remember too much - all I remember is being at the Strathmore Skateboard Park and all these kids are just like 'Richard are you OK?'

"My nose was bleeding (and) I was freaking out - I was like 'don't come near me!'"

A Strathmore youth snagged a friend's cellphone and called 911, but Mulvihill said when police arrived at first he and Herrmann tried to walk away from the park, but didn't make it far.

"(The cops) talked to the person who called and then came racing over to us and asked us what we were on ... we told them," he said.

Mulvihill confirmed what police heard from witnesses - yellow pills stamped with a Mickey Mouse head.

He said these "dirty pills" have circulated within Strathmore for a few weeks.

"I've done (ecstasy) before and it was a lot different ... this hit me so fast - it was almost like there was another drug in it to make it kick in faster," Mulvihill said.

He is now home from Rockyview hospital in Calgary, where he was transferred Friday night.

Now he fears for his friends.

A lot of people in Strathmore are into ecstasy, he said.

And that is a concern for town Coun. Bob Sobol, a former cop and now a local addictions committee member.

"Ecstasy is almost taking on the name of excitement - there's a lot of hype with ecstasy and that's unfortunate, because once again nobody knows where this ecstasy is coming from," he said.

Sobol said there is a message here.

"When somebody dies, other people are cognizant of that and do change their habits ... if you can get one person to rethink their position or the steps they take in regards to drug use, well, that's all we can hope for," he said.

Police are suggesting people avoid taking these pills.

"We don't want them thrown out in an alley for somebody to find, so I guess we would ask that a responsible disposal be considered if somebody had something of that nature and wanted to get rid of it," said Cpl. Duane White.

"If someone were to bring it to us we would balance the enforcement component with the public interest."

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/06/teen-relives-trip-on-killer-ecstasy


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Ogla] * 2
    #14568571 - 06/06/11 09:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe because it either was a different drug it they took too many. Fucking dumbass kids.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: TTT] * 1
    #14568609 - 06/06/11 09:38 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe because it either was a different drug it they took too many. Fucking dumbass kids.




Fuck you prick!

Any kid who takes 4 ecstasy pills, which in some cases will barely give you a caffeine buzz, is a "fucking dumbass kid"???
I say you're a fucking dumbass who doesn't understand the issues of the drug war. Go research it and shut the fuck up loser.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: LightShedder] * 2
    #14568620 - 06/06/11 09:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe because it either was a different drug it they took too many. Fucking dumbass kids.




Fuck you prick!

Any kid who takes 4 ecstasy pills, which in some cases will barely give you a caffeine buzz, is a "fucking dumbass kid"???
I say you're a fucking dumbass who doesn't understand the issues of the drug war. Go research it and shut the fuck up loser.




You probably won't want to hear this.

But any kid that takes for random (operative word) e pills is a "fucking dumbass kid".

Kids are known to be dumb and naive, why are you getting offended. You pop beans like they're candy too?


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: saxx]
    #14568670 - 06/06/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

No. But are you seriously going to call someone who chooses to take an unknown pill "a dumbass kid"?

Maybe, "too bad these kids dont know the uncertainty with e pills." it's nit like they are guaranteed to have been aware of such a fact. Did your high school teach you that MDMA is relatively safe but most e pills don't actually contain any? Mine didn't.

So every kid is required to do independent research like you and I have done or else they are just a "dumbass kid"?

Sure you might think it's a smart idea to research drugs before you ingest them. And then you'd find that you probably don't want to pop an e pill because it's uncertainty. But believe me, it doesn't take an extreme lack of intelligence to take an x pill. Just because some kids don't go out of their way to learn the truth doesn't make them an idiot for choosing to get high. Had these pills have actually have contained MDMA like they thought, they'd probably be perfectly fine. They're dumbasses because they had mimic tabs? To each his own I guess.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: LightShedder]
    #14568703 - 06/06/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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LightShedder said:
No. But are you seriously going to call someone who chooses to take an unknown pill "a dumbass kid"?

Maybe, "too bad these kids dont know the uncertainty with e pills." it's nit like they are guaranteed to have been aware of such a fact. Did your high school teach you that MDMA is relatively safe but most e pills don't actually contain any? Mine didn't.

So every kid is required to do independent research like you and I have done or else they are just a "dumbass kid"?

Sure you might think it's a smart idea to research drugs before you ingest them. And then you'd find that you probably don't want to pop an e pill because it's uncertainty. But believe me, it doesn't take an extreme lack of intelligence to take an x pill. Just because some kids don't go out of their way to learn the truth doesn't make them an idiot for choosing to get high. Had these pills have actually have contained MDMA like they thought, they'd probably be perfectly fine. They're dumbasses because they had mimic tabs? To each his own I guess.




We're essentially debating semantics now.

Yes if you take pills you don't know what they are, you're a dumbass. From my point of view there is nothing to debate there.

People take drugs without any idea what they are. They're dumb, sorry.

They may not be "un-intelligent" simply because of that fact because sure, you can weigh risks and probabilities and all that. And you can be 'intelligent' and just take a risk, just because you felt like it.

I will rephrase, it's really fucking dumb to take pills you have no idea what they are.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: saxx]
    #14568756 - 06/06/11 10:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i usually look the pill up on pill reports before consuming.  I'd like to have a test kit.  definitely wanna avoid meth based pills.. those give me cramps and stuff and are not really enjoyable.

The pills in the article may have been tainted..

" He's having a seizure!

My nose was bleeding (and) I was freaking out

"I've done (ecstasy) before and it was a lot different ... this hit me so fast - it was almost like there was another drug in it to make it kick in faster," Mulvihill said. "


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Ogla]
    #14568799 - 06/06/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

@ light shredder
any one with common sense has to agree with saxx. though i never really liked it, i tried e around a dozen times or so. Only once did it feel clean and enjoyable.Every other time it was always different effects from pill to pill. I look back now and think, how dumb cud i be to take pills from people i barely know, who probably got them from people they barely know? However as dumb as my choices were, I instinctively knew to take 1 each time. Taking things you dont know is str8 dumb, but until u have some degree of experience, taking multiples of something u dont know is really dumb. period.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Ogla] * 1
    #14568817 - 06/06/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i agree..

we were all dumb ass kids at one point or another.. anyone who tries to say otherwise is still a dumbass kid..

yes 4 pressies was quite enough..

yes 8 pressies probably killed the other kid.

Pressed pills are horrible for you, because we dont know whats in them but who here still does them?

i have, you have, he has, she has..

truthh of the matter is, there are no nutritional info on drug bags, no serving size, so side effect sheet..

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: davind_anthony]
    #14568836 - 06/06/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

don't matter if your a kid or an old fart.  Taking unknown drugs in pill form, then taking lots because you think you know what you are doing does in fact make you a dumb ass.

This kid is less of a dumb ass now, he seems to have learned his lesson


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Ogla]
    #14568837 - 06/06/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I do pop "Beans" like they are candy, at least I used to.  I've abused almost every drug for extended periods of time.  I'm pro drugs, if someone wants to shoot heroin into their penis while they eat crack rocks while tripping LSD and smoking a joint of OG Kush laced with PCP, DMT, DOC, and 2CB in the privacy of their own home and don't have kids around, that is totally fine with me, actually I would be jealous (except for the shooting up, I dont needle. I'm not judging I just don't do it.  However these kids ARE dumbasses for multiple reasons....

    Number one, and probably the most important, they were 16. If you are a 10th grader and you are doing rolls, don't do 8.  If you want to do drugs don't jump into the deep end of the pool.  There was a point when i had to start doing more and more I've done 16 rolls in a 24 hour peroid and it was fun when i wasn't laying on the floor shaking and foaming at the mouth.  I was 21 and 22 still young, but at least my brain had fully developed (some might argue otherwise)

    Number two. When doing anything you cant judge by sight ie. everything but weed and pills(Rx type pills), you have to know and trust your sources.  Since i started doing drugs I've had tons of weed dealers but only three people i will buy anything else from ie. LSD DMT Cocaine MDMA. And all 3 of those people are plugged into the same outlets......

  Long story short....wait till you grow up to do drugs.  Go to college and get a good job, then when you try drugs, you can buy lots and lots :wink:


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: saxx]
    #14568842 - 06/06/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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LightShedder said:
No. But are you seriously going to call someone who chooses to take an unknown pill "a dumbass kid"?

Maybe, "too bad these kids dont know the uncertainty with e pills." it's nit like they are guaranteed to have been aware of such a fact. Did your high school teach you that MDMA is relatively safe but most e pills don't actually contain any? Mine didn't.

So every kid is required to do independent research like you and I have done or else they are just a "dumbass kid"?

Sure you might think it's a smart idea to research drugs before you ingest them. And then you'd find that you probably don't want to pop an e pill because it's uncertainty. But believe me, it doesn't take an extreme lack of intelligence to take an x pill. Just because some kids don't go out of their way to learn the truth doesn't make them an idiot for choosing to get high. Had these pills have actually have contained MDMA like they thought, they'd probably be perfectly fine. They're dumbasses because they had mimic tabs? To each his own I guess.




We're essentially debating semantics now.

Yes if you take pills you don't know what they are, you're a dumbass. From my point of view there is nothing to debate there.

People take drugs without any idea what they are. They're dumb, sorry.

They may not be "un-intelligent" simply because of that fact because sure, you can weigh risks and probabilities and all that. And you can be 'intelligent' and just take a risk, just because you felt like it.

I will rephrase, it's really fucking dumb to take pills you have no idea what they are.




This.
Buy a test kit. They are SO cheap and easy to use.

If you take drugs without testing them / knowing whats inside you are a:
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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: LightShedder] * 2
    #14568897 - 06/06/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe because it either was a different drug it they took too many. Fucking dumbass kids.




Fuck you prick!

Any kid who takes 4 ecstasy pills, which in some cases will barely give you a caffeine buzz, is a "fucking dumbass kid"???
I say you're a fucking dumbass who doesn't understand the issues of the drug war. Go research it and shut the fuck up loser.




if youre buying/taking pills that only give you a caffeine buzz at that amount then yes you are a dumbass kid ... if you take unknown pills at large amounts without knowing the potency or mix then yes you are a dumbass kid ... if you pop off in a thread at a comment not even aimed at you then yes ... you are a dumbass kid ...


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: cyantific]
    #14568917 - 06/06/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Dumbass kids indeed, but who hasn't been a dumbass kid atleast once in their life? I'm surprised I'm still alive from all the dumb shit me and my friends used to do. I'm happy I didn't experiment with ANY drugs until I was 19. I became a little bit more mature and researched everything before it went into my body, whereas if I was younger I may have done a shit ton of an unknown chemical just for the hell of it and fucked myself up. With that being said, I feel really bad for this kid and his friend who died.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: cyantific]
    #14568929 - 06/06/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I eat any pill I find anywhere all the time as soon as I find it, I never worry about looking it up. I remind myself of Pac Man.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: LightShedder]
    #14568981 - 06/06/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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No. But are you seriously going to call someone who chooses to take an unknown pill "a dumbass kid"?

Maybe, "too bad these kids dont know the uncertainty with e pills." it's nit like they are guaranteed to have been aware of such a fact. Did your high school teach you that MDMA is relatively safe but most e pills don't actually contain any? Mine didn't.

So every kid is required to do independent research like you and I have done or else they are just a "dumbass kid"?

Sure you might think it's a smart idea to research drugs before you ingest them. And then you'd find that you probably don't want to pop an e pill because it's uncertainty. But believe me, it doesn't take an extreme lack of intelligence to take an x pill. Just because some kids don't go out of their way to learn the truth doesn't make them an idiot for choosing to get high. Had these pills have actually have contained MDMA like they thought, they'd probably be perfectly fine. They're dumbasses because they had mimic tabs? To each his own I guess.







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No moron.  They are dumbasses for eating 4, and 8.  The kid even stated he thought the pills were different and they kicked in harder.....what the hell was the reason for popping another 3?  And his friend ate 8?  Yes that's being a dumbass kid.  All the drugs in the world can be illegal, and some dumbass kid is STILL going to huff gas, and I'm STILL going to think he's a dumbass kid. 

The war on drugs didn't give that kid reason to eat 4 pills....or his friend to eat 8.  I've seen you post in this forum several times...."there's no mdma in pills anymore".....are you retarded?  You can get a pill tesing kit, cheap and easy online.  Anyone I know that buys any MDMA in bulk has one....and I have never seen them get bunk pressies, not since 07.  Purple stars huge MDA, blue pumas MDMA, Red and Blue superman DEF MDMA HIGH ( tested in crime lab...these were from last year ).  People like you getting all heated and insulting people, then proceeding to spread misinformation, are why we are stuck in this war on drugs in the first place.

And really shouldn't we be calling him a dumbass ADULT?  he was fucking 19.....and he was getting high with a 15 year old.....so really TTT is spot on.......


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: vandago] * 1
    #14569050 - 06/06/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Vangago just dropped some science, however, 19 is still pretty much a kid. Plus he was with a 15 year old, so their median age would be 17.  It's simple math people :smile:
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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Retrovertigo] * 1
    #14569195 - 06/06/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

the bottom line is that is VERY SAD that a kid died from this and he is in no way a dumbass

we all dont even know the details...

all you people who are like "these kids are giving drugs a bad name so good riddance" make me fucking sick

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: SummerDaisies] * 1
    #14569226 - 06/06/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

lmao @ you kids ... how old are you in your 20s ? still a kid as far as im concerned ... i dont think i read one comment saying good riddance or anything of the like ... just the condemnation of the decision that brought about this tragedy ...

though it is sad that he died and my heart goes out to his parents and family ... he died being a dumbass ... ill save my weeping for the toddlers on chemotherapy who have no say in their situations ...


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Retrovertigo]
    #14569288 - 06/06/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: cyantific] * 2
    #14569304 - 06/06/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This article and the preceding comments have gotten me thinking. It seems as though anyone who is sick of misrepresentation of drugs by the media is ashamed and hesitant to show any sort of sympathy to someone who loses their life to drugs or a drug related incident. I feel as though this is because any proponent of the 'Drug War' uses such stories and spins them to their advantage and to support their stance on drugs (ie: drugs stopped this man's heart so drugs are to be blamed). Its ok to show some sympathy or sadness at any loss of human life. We all do dumb things, we're all dumbasses, we are all each other in one way or another. So don't attack these kids, aid them, and others like them, to see others perspectives. Spin this story into your stance on drugs. Say that this accident was a result of the lack of factual information on drugs. And this lacking of information is a product of the drug war. See? its all about perspective. But just don't take the 'anybody who errs is a dumbass, i'm perfect' perspective; for its simply not genuine. We're all human, we're all born of the same earth, and we're all in this together.

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Moonraker] * 2
    #14569332 - 06/06/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

stupid is as stupid does ... fact is they made a "stupid" mistake and this has people using the dumbass label ( dont think ive ever read the word dumbass so many times in one thread ever lol ) its not like ppl are laughing at the kids ... its just a simple observation ... like damn that was stupid , now youre dead , how could you be such a dumbass ?! hypothetically if there was a place of sentience out there in the afterlife where that kid could be thinking aloud so that we could hear its quite likely we would hear something along the lines of ... "fuck ! how could i be such a dumbass ! what have i done !"
so all said , its not so much an attack as a statement of the obvious ...


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: LightShedder] * 2
    #14569376 - 06/06/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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But are you seriously going to call someone who chooses to take an unknown pill "a dumbass kid"?





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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: shLong]
    #14569453 - 06/06/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This could have been prevented on so many different levels. As pointed before in this thread, PillReports for one, a test kit for another, and lastly, don't take four fucking pills! Seriously, you stop rolling after your first pill or so due to it blowing all your serotonin. After that, it just releases dopeamine which results in a more "cracked out" roll. Taking more pills just increases the amphetamine high, but no more lovey dovey euphoria associated with MDMA.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: shLong]
    #14569465 - 06/06/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

sadly, there are a lot more kids who are just as capable of making this same mistake.

what's the answer? Should more harm reduction education be provided?


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: FleshCap]
    #14569556 - 06/06/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

you'd think after popping one and thinking its not ecstasy that you wouldn't pop three or fucking seven more. sad story.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: LightShedder]
    #14569595 - 06/06/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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But are you seriously going to call someone who chooses to take an unknown pill "a dumbass kid"?




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So every kid is required to do independent research like you and I have done or else they are just a "dumbass kid"?




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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: muistrue]
    #14569683 - 06/06/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I was just hearing about these Yellow micky mouses there sick its a shame for what happened but damn 8 bombs.. dumbass they obviously dont look to deep into what they eat because it took me 3 seconds to find the bombs on another site with very bad rep around it. Still real point is its a shame for the loss and the family's heartbreak 

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: mushiefeet]
    #14569767 - 06/06/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

he has to live with it for the rest of his life...:lurker:


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    #14569780 - 06/06/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Doc_T]
    #14570052 - 06/06/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

No one ever implied a "Fuck this kid good riddance" attitude. Of course its a tragedy, i think that has went unsaid....however.  The people on here are talking about test kits are right on point.  I rely on trusting my dealers but not a lot of people have that luxury. However I know for a fact that my buddy's went down to FL and taste tested those fuckers so if they had been bad I would have lost close friends.....get a test kit people.....and all these people are talking about only take one after the first thats all you get blah blah blah.....they took that many for one or both of two reasons....Tolerance or they had only tried rolls once or twice and thought "wow lets do alot of these, we will get even higher" both of with most of us had done....and whats up with all this talk about kids and grow up and blah fucking blah we are talking on the Shroomery forum not leaving comments on youtube


EDUCATE KIDS ON THE DANGERS OF DRUGS

BUY TEST KITS FOR EXOTIC DRUGS (LSD MDMA et.)

oh yea and if weed was accepted as the basically harm free drug it was these kids could have just smoked some artisan grade weed and watched adult swim while eating tacos and listing to The Show is the Rainbow


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Doc_T]
    #14570061 - 06/06/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah , 4 and 8 out the gate? You just don't do that. I could see dropping 2 though. Most pills ar 50-75mg. So 2 beans is about right probly won't be over 200mg and that's agood time for most people.


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    #14570106 - 06/06/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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    #14570213 - 06/06/11 04:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

such hostility in here. 

and yeah, someone who takes four pills of E isn't the smartest, let alone the 8 his friend took.

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Mushie23]
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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: muistrue]
    #14570250 - 06/06/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Dumbass( or deriatives of) occurs 54 time in this thread.

Thats beautiful.

Poor kid. Too young to die. I dont know what I would do if I lost a child that way.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: DoDahDay]
    #14570905 - 06/06/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Dumbass( or deriatives of) occurs 54 time in this thread.

Thats beautiful.






lmao i was actually gonna go through and count but decided to smoke a bowl instead ! propps for handling that bit of useless but facinating information ! :crazy2:


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: cyantific]
    #14570959 - 06/06/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hello people,
Im from strathmore. No point in arguing dirty pills are always circulations in this town , at one point they were dipped in acid, and ones in heroin! it was bad, it happened, and are town is torn up about it. Whether or not you agree it was a bad choice, and i hope the dealer is feeling bad right now ( prolly not)


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: onlyone1147]
    #14571008 - 06/06/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

why people continue to eat press pills is beyond me ... if its not molly then why bother ... pretty much every mdma/mda distributor is aware of the stigma attached to press pills and therefor dont attempt to taint their pure and much more lucrative product ... yes there is some pressies out there that are legit but whats the percentage of them to bad ? %10 is a pretty generous estimate ... stop eating press pills unless they are absolutely confirmed , and even then test because ppl are always out to mimic things fraudulently ...


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Ogla] * 1
    #14571010 - 06/06/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Seems to me everyone has missed the biggest mistake of all that these young men made.  They broke the golden rule.  Always test every new batch with an initial low dose.  They would have immediately been aware of the potential for harm.

And I'm not talking about take two, wait an hour and take two more.  I'm saying take the SMALLEST dose likely to have an detectable effect, and assess from there.

FWIW, if these kids were at a skate park, they had some coin.  What does a good skateboard, pads, etc cost???  Hundreds, right??  Could have gotten a test kit for what, $12.00??  For want of spending a dozen dollars, a young man lost his life.

Yeah, I know, prohibition, illegal, blah, blah, blah. I agree that is part of the problem.  A big part.  BUT, there are still practical remedies to the uncertainty of street drug composition.  I've mentioned only two.

This is so friggin' sad...:sad:

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14571460 - 06/06/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

There were yellow mickey mouse rolls that tested positive for MDMA + Caffeine here in Ohio last year around this time. sad to hear, the ones mentioned in the story are probably mimics of those.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: onlyone1147] * 1
    #14573055 - 06/07/11 06:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Hello people,
Im from strathmore. No point in arguing dirty pills are always circulations in this town , at one point they were dipped in acid, and ones in heroin!



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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: LightShedder]
    #14573198 - 06/07/11 07:55 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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No. But are you seriously going to call someone who chooses to take an unknown pill "a dumbass kid"?

Maybe, "too bad these kids dont know the uncertainty with e pills." it's nit like they are guaranteed to have been aware of such a fact. Did your high school teach you that MDMA is relatively safe but most e pills don't actually contain any? Mine didn't.

So every kid is required to do independent research like you and I have done or else they are just a "dumbass kid"?




Oh Yeah, totally. You just saw me do it. Problems with it? Move out of America buddy. :lol: I can be a bitch when appropriate if I feel like it.

Even when I still did beans, I never ever took more than one until after I had an hour or two to see how quickly it came up and what kind of effects I was working with. This kid's ignorance is quoted all over the place.


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: TTT]
    #14575108 - 06/07/11 03:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

more likely to be caffeine and mda :lol:

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Konyap]
    #14575237 - 06/07/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:awepuke:  :feelsbadman:  well u are all dumbasses:uhno:


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: LuigisDeathRace] * 1
    #14576402 - 06/07/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

actually speedballin is when you take a stimulant and a depressant or downer even

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Konyap]
    #14578407 - 06/08/11 06:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Coke + H = a speedball...I'm not sure if the term applies elsewhere though (i.e. with other stimulants/downers)


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: shLong]
    #14578420 - 06/08/11 06:33 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That's the classic speedball, the term gets applied to other similar combos.
I talk about weed+coffee as "speedballing" sometimes.


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    #14578485 - 06/08/11 07:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

But weed + coffee is NOT a speedball :shrug:


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: vandago]
    #14578510 - 06/08/11 07:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

No, weed is a psychedelic, I know that.

But the effect is awesome- the coffee speeds up my time sense, and the weed stretches it out.
So the time gets sliced finer and finer, and it's like I'm out of sync, watching the world at a different rate.
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    #14578516 - 06/08/11 07:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I love the combo.  One of my all time favorite combos for everyday life + drugs.  However I can call a dog a cat all day......it's still gonna bark.


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    #14578536 - 06/08/11 07:21 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I thank you for the semantics lesson.


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    #14578571 - 06/08/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It's just a peeve of mine when people make up their own slang for drugs.  It's almost like an ego boost thing for themselves or something :shrug:


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: vandago]
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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: cyantific]
    #14580619 - 06/08/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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why people continue to eat press pills is beyond me ... if its not molly then why bother ... pretty much every mdma/mda distributor is aware of the stigma attached to press pills and therefor dont attempt to taint their pure and much more lucrative product ... yes there is some pressies out there that are legit but whats the percentage of them to bad ? %10 is a pretty generous estimate ... stop eating press pills unless they are absolutely confirmed , and even then test because ppl are always out to mimic things fraudulently ...




What other form does MDMA come in besides pill? That is the only choice that I know of.


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    #14580631 - 06/08/11 04:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Molly.....powder form.....


But people don't seem to realize there's hundreds of mix n match powders people pass off as "molly" now.  The only sure way to tell is a testing kit.


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    #14580655 - 06/08/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Molly.....powder form.....


But people don't seem to realize there's hundreds of mix n match powders people pass off as "molly" now.  The only sure way to tell is a testing kit.




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    #14580735 - 06/08/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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It's just a peeve of mine when people make up their own slang for drugs.





???

Who is on the International Committee for Determination of Drug Slang?
Is it you? Are you president of the ICfDoDS?

Who makes up drug slang if it's not us users?


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    #14580775 - 06/08/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

anyway....

MDMA is tough as shit to make

i dont understand how even 80percent of the stuff thats out there is MDMA or has MDMA in it

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It's just a peeve of mine when people make up their own slang for drugs.





???

Who is on the International Committee for Determination of Drug Slang?
Is it you? Are you president of the ICfDoDS?

Who makes up drug slang if it's not us users?







You said it.....us users......you are the votin guy c'mon.....majority wins pal!  And a majority of drug users will agree that a speed ball is a strong upper and a strong downer......not weed and coffee.....



It's like when people describe every single drug as "dope" ......that irks me so bad.....you go into anywhere professional and cannabis is referred to as dope around here.....it just strikes an ignorance chord in me.


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    #14580899 - 06/08/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

heroin and coke is speed balling ... anything else other than that is just comparative banter ... just like candy flipping is lsd and mdma and nothing else ...


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: LightShedder]
    #14587397 - 06/09/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe because it either was a different drug it they took too many. Fucking dumbass kids.




Fuck you prick!

Any kid who takes 4 ecstasy pills, which in some cases will barely give you a caffeine buzz, is a "fucking dumbass kid"???
I say you're a fucking dumbass who doesn't understand the issues of the drug war. Go research it and shut the fuck up loser.




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    #14588449 - 06/09/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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why people continue to eat press pills is beyond me ... if its not molly then why bother ... pretty much every mdma/mda distributor is aware of the stigma attached to press pills and therefor dont attempt to taint their pure and much more lucrative product ... yes there is some pressies out there that are legit but whats the percentage of them to bad ? %10 is a pretty generous estimate ... stop eating press pills unless they are absolutely confirmed , and even then test because ppl are always out to mimic things fraudulently ...




What other form does MDMA come in besides pill? That is the only choice that I know of.




Jesus fucking christ you got to be fucking kidding me.

MDMA (3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine) – colloquially known as ecstasy, often abbreviated "E" or "X" – is an entactogenic drug of the phenethylamine and amphetamine class of drugs.

MDMA can induce euphoria, a sense of intimacy with others, and diminished anxiety. Many studies, particularly in the fields of psychology and cognitive therapy, have suggested that MDMA has therapeutic benefits and facilitates therapy sessions in certain individuals, a practice for which it had formally been used in the past. Clinical trials are now testing the therapeutic potential of MDMA for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and anxiety associated with terminal cancer.

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: cyantific]
    #14588460 - 06/09/11 11:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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heroin and coke is speed balling ... anything else other than that is just comparative banter ... just like candy flipping is lsd and mdma and nothing else ...




I have to disagree with all this speed ball talk everyone is having too

10 xanax bars and a gram of crystal meth IS DEFINITELY a speed ball

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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Retrovertigo]
    #14588466 - 06/09/11 11:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I can copy and paste too......:dumbass:


He was asking what other FORMS it comes in, not what it is, dumbass "adult"  :facepalm:


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: shLong]
    #14588596 - 06/10/11 12:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

if your coming in and out of reality from alcohol and a four loco even

is that GHB or mdma?

my friend lost his tolerance for beer apparently and i witnessed him lose face after doin two back flips almost half an hour later, he beleives he was roofied

i used to drink like a champ and i nevver remember behaving like that with out some sort of catalyst like half a bottle of tequila or something...


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Retrovertigo]
    #14651755 - 06/21/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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heroin and coke is speed balling ... anything else other than that is just comparative banter ... just like candy flipping is lsd and mdma and nothing else ...




I have to disagree with all this speed ball talk everyone is having too

10 xanax bars and a gram of crystal meth IS DEFINITELY a speed ball

a couple hundred millies of OC and a gr of meth IS DEFINITELY a speed ball





MDMA comes in a powder form too ( kind of like flower-not like coke |)


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    #14652185 - 06/22/11 02:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yellow pills? Probably PMA aka Chicken Yellow


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Re: Teen relives trip on killer ecstasy [Re: Asante]
    #14652519 - 06/22/11 05:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Yellow pills? Probably PMA aka Chicken Yellow




Which would explain the overdose.
I don't get how people could never care to test but I realize its a mentality of invincibility - my brother is like that.

How do the manufacturers sleep at night though - its one thing making MDMA, I would feel pretty damn good, as I would be helping people get high. But knowingly selling and making something that you know is fatal is such a awful thing to do


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