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Why the government hates hippies?
#14567912 - 06/06/11 03:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why do you think the government hates hippies so much?
What is so frightening to the establishment about people that as a generalization at least like to drop out, take drugs and hang out at concerts and in nature- obviously theres more to it than that but thats the quickest generalizstion i could come up with. 
Now i am not a hippie personally but im just saying what are people so afraid of with hippies? Its not like they try convert anyone or are causing violence.
I think its fair to say a big motivation on the war on drugs was to stop the hippie movement.
       
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: skatealex2]
#14567936 - 06/06/11 03:38 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's the general sentiment really...
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: 13.step]
#14567947 - 06/06/11 03:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its not just the government, there are people here at the shroomery who express a hatred for "hippies"
People tend to fear what they do not understand.
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I think its fair to say a big motivation on the war on drugs was to stop the hippie movement.
Maybe, but I think the reason it has continued is $$$ and it seems that racism also plays a role
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: skatealex2]
#14567952 - 06/06/11 03:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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skatealex2 said: Why the government hates hippies?
Here's your answer:
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: skatealex2] 4
#14567974 - 06/06/11 04:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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hippies peace government peace government hippies
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: skatealex2] 3
#14567981 - 06/06/11 04:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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The government hates hippies because hippies hate the government, duh.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: skatealex2] 1
#14567992 - 06/06/11 04:17 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Because they threaten and challenge the status quo. Govt is all about the status quo.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: pouihi]
#14567995 - 06/06/11 04:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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pouihi said: hippies peace government peace government hippies
It's partially this, but I think it's more the anti-consumerism, anti-materialism aspect of the hippie movement that scares them the most
That's what this country runs on
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: propensity]
#14567997 - 06/06/11 04:20 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hippies arent completely anti-materialism and anti-consumerism though. If no one bought their patchwork pants and crystals how could they afford to put gas in their van?
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Well having clothes and fuel doesn't really translate to being a materialistic consumer.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: propensity]
#14568004 - 06/06/11 04:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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All consuming is consuming, it's more about reducing carbon footprint and reliance on outsourced slave labor.
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What I'm talking about is like mass consumerism and materialism as a lifestyle, greed for money and nice things being a main concern.
Not the consumption that it takes to survive.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: propensity]
#14568014 - 06/06/11 04:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I guess there is different levels of hippyism too.
Youve got the kind that still shop at health food stores, the kind that only dumpster dive and furthermore the kind that only produce all of their own food by growing it on their commune.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: propensity]
#14568035 - 06/06/11 04:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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propensity said: What I'm talking about is like mass consumerism and materialism as a lifestyle, greed for money and nice things being a main concern.
Not the consumption that it takes to survive.
Where does consumerism start though? What about spending big $ for your hobbies and passions? Should we reject any kind of consuming beyond basic survival? How are we different from animals then?
Anyway, I don't like hippies (not hate, hating is silly) because of their sterile smug moralistic ideals...they are all talk and promises and their greatest achievement is the grateful dead... Which speaks volumes really.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: 13.step] 2
#14568037 - 06/06/11 04:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont think it's ideal to be a hippie, it's just a word the man attaches to anyone who is outside the box.
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MisterMuscaria said: Hippies arent completely anti-materialism and anti-consumerism though. If no one bought their patchwork pants and crystals how could they afford to put gas in their van?
A true hippie produces his own bio diesel bro
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: skatealex2] 3
#14568069 - 06/06/11 05:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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cause the government is just a bunch of old people who haven't gotten laid in years. all they want you to do is study schoolwork and have no sex and be completely sober all the time so you turn into a brainwashed robot just like them.
They want you to be just like them.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: beachedjesus]
#14568072 - 06/06/11 05:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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beachedjesus said: They want you to be just like them.
Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: pouihi]
#14568092 - 06/06/11 05:21 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said: Hippies arent completely anti-materialism and anti-consumerism though. If no one bought their patchwork pants and crystals how could they afford to put gas in their van?
A true hippie produces his own bio diesel bro 
Naw, a true hippie gets it free from fast food restaurants and filters it. That way they clean up the mess that consumerism has left.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: beachedjesus]
#14568130 - 06/06/11 05:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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beachedjesus said: cause the government is just a bunch of old people who haven't gotten laid in years. all they want you to do is study schoolwork and have no sex and be completely sober all the time so you turn into a brainwashed robot just like them.
They want you to be just like them.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: mongo lloyd]
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: Shroomism]
#14568189 - 06/06/11 05:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Because they threaten and challenge the status quo. Govt is all about the status quo.
Very this. Hippies are hated because they stand against consumer culture. In this country more than anywhere else, that is heresy.
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I hate them because they're fucking weird, and have hated them since I was a child for the same reason.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: Poid]
#14568212 - 06/06/11 06:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have mixed feelings about hippies, but I'm glad they're there. They stand for good stuff. I just can't join them for a lot of it. Bit of a consumer whore over here.
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Tchan909 said: Bit of a consumer whore over here.
Same here.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: skatealex2]
#14568241 - 06/06/11 06:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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because they are like black people.
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Shroomism said: Because they threaten and challenge the status quo. Govt is all about the status quo.
Very this. Hippies are hated because they stand against consumer culture. In this country more than anywhere else, that is heresy.
Plus of course the general pacifistic tendency of the 'toker'and the whole antiwar movement associated with the "hippy" in the 60's. War = load'sa money to the people in positions of power,so of course anyone/group that threatens their profitability is going to be denounced as anti-American or a threat to society.
When the fuck are you people, that demand the right to carry arms, going to put these mother fuckers(warmongers) up against a wall and do what needs to be done.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: Poid]
#14568687 - 06/06/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid said: I hate them because they're fucking weird, and have hated them since I was a child for the same reason. 
LOL!That's awesome
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: StillCrunchy] 1
#14568700 - 06/06/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Poid said: I hate them because they're fucking weird, and have hated them since I was a child for the same reason. 
LOL!That's awesome
Does it really sound awsome??
Sounds pretty fuckin stupid to me.
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14568754 - 06/06/11 10:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd rather chill with a bunch of wiggers than today's "hippies"
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: moonrockmushy]
#14568755 - 06/06/11 10:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: People tend to fear what they do not understand.
quite the easy statement to make but really, what's not to understand about hippies
your statement can easily be applied to the hippies hate for the wealthy and corporations
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14568760 - 06/06/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Disdain is not the same thing as hatred. I don't hate hippies, I just think they are retarded at best and phonies most of the time. They surf on the accomplishments of other people while contributing nothing themselves except a ridiculous sense of hedonistic superiority. Word to hippies; "If you are going to drop out then DROP THE FUCK OUT. Get out of my town. Stop sucking at my tits. Peace out freakshow bums."
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Tchan909 said: Very this. Hippies are hated because they stand against consumer culture.
the modern hippies are a part of the consumer culture, cell phones, ipods, laptops, the latest phish show on CD and even stealing from the big stores, very few hippies arent a part of this, those that have escaped consumerism are living fairly isolated from most
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pouihi said:
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MisterMuscaria said: Hippies arent completely anti-materialism and anti-consumerism though. If no one bought their patchwork pants and crystals how could they afford to put gas in their van?
A true hippie produces his own bio diesel bro 
Naw, a true hippie gets it free from fast food restaurants and filters it. That way they clean up the mess that consumerism has left.
and thus one aspect of the hippies part in consumerism is set
most fast food restaurants sell their used oil
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: PreparationH]
#14568800 - 06/06/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: I'd rather chill with a bunch of wiggers than today's "hippies"
Now if there is any group of people I dislike its most definitely "wiggers"
They are the fucking worst
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: DeadHearts]
#14568841 - 06/06/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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for the same reason government hates anarchy
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Its funny the hippies of years back are now seated in government. They used to cry about "our rights man", now they do everything they can to strip away our rights.
Whats to like about a liberal dbag hippie?
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Re: Why the government hates hippies? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14569755 - 06/06/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: People tend to fear what they do not understand.
quite the easy statement to make but really, what's not to understand about hippies
your statement can easily be applied to the hippies hate for the wealthy and corporations
Yes, I was actually going to say something to that effect: "hippies" don't understand what made those in the "consumer culture" who they are, the void is filled with fear. Its a human problem; pinning it on "the Man" is not what I'm trying to do.
Whats not to understand about hippies is that each one of these hippies is an individual, who is somewhere on the outskirts of society. Each has their own set of beliefs and values. Some are modest, some are outspoken, some lazy, some active. It seems impossible that someone could actually take the time to fully know someone, hippie or not, and still have so much hatred towards them. (not saying you hate them, for those that do - I know this sound ridiculously idealistic but please, humor me)
Maybe this is a simplification, but if that is a problem then I would think this whole thread is, as "hippie" is such a vague meaningless word to me, like all other archetypes created to make people feel better about themselves at the expense of others.
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