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    #14565841 - 06/05/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Does it ever accomplish anything real? Of all the protests I have seen staged in my lifetime I have not once seen much of anything positive occur because of them including the ones in Egypt, Libya, Yeman, which resulted in civil wars and countless murders. Does protesting ever get shit done?


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Re: Protesting [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14565848 - 06/05/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

for civil rights, yeah. Protesting about changing the system itself like the federal reserve, campaign contributions, going back to 0 electronic voting machines, etc, ... nope


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Re: Protesting [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #14565997 - 06/05/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I agree. We can't make any significant changes to the fundamentals of our flawed system through protest. However, there are a chain of protests beginning in my nearby town to stop gigantic shipments of coal from tainting our relatively intact ecosystem. Some of the richest people in America (maybe the world) are all behind the support of this terminal and I don't think they really stand a chance due to the high numbers of opposition in the area. It's starting with protests and will grow to full on campaigns against it's construction and approval. I think it depends on publicity because everyone here is locally minded and hears about these kind of issues in real time. You could protest the Fed in San Fransisco and the news probably wouldn't make it past California for more than a day, if at all.


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Re: Protesting [Re: guitardude3]
    #14566012 - 06/05/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If there actively preventing the contractors from building anything and being all together disruptive of the operation I wouldnt exactly call that a protest. I would call it getting shit done :lol:


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Re: Protesting [Re: guitardude3] * 1
    #14566016 - 06/05/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The  recent Wisconsin protests could easily be the united states as a whole. I bet that changes something.


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566018 - 06/05/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:Awemazing: any videos deadhearts?


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566024 - 06/05/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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The  recent Wisconsin protests could easily be the united states as a whole.




It should.


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566026 - 06/05/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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The  recent Wisconsin protests could easily be the united states as a whole. I bet that changes something.





you mean the protests that accomplished nothing... sure, could be the whole of the US


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566036 - 06/05/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I only see protests as a feel good action, There heads in the right place but they rarely if ever accomplish anything substantial. The Wisconsin protest might change something, slightly, only as much as it takes to subdue them. Its not gonna change anything major. What is it there protesting?


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts] * 3
    #14566042 - 06/05/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Protesting is for little girls. Real men utilise internet petitions.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14566047 - 06/05/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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The  recent Wisconsin protests could easily be the united states as a whole. I bet that changes something.





you mean the protests that accomplished nothing... sure, could be the whole of the US





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Re: Protesting [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14566048 - 06/05/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I only see protests as a feel good action, There heads in the right place but they rarely if ever accomplish anything substantial. The Wisconsin protest might change something, slightly, only as much as it takes to subdue them. Its not gonna change anything major. What is it there protesting?





The what do you do when you need to change something in the way we do?

All out war? Voting?


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Re: Protesting [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14566061 - 06/05/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Does it ever accomplish anything real? Of all the protests I have seen staged in my lifetime I have not once seen much of anything positive occur because of them including the ones in Egypt, Libya, Yeman, which resulted in civil wars and countless murders. Does protesting ever get shit done?



Egypt?


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566062 - 06/05/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:
The  recent Wisconsin protests could easily be the united states as a whole. I bet that changes something.





you mean the protests that accomplished nothing... sure, could be the whole of the US





:facepalm:





what did it accomplish?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703407304576154951119807240.html
Protests Fail to Sway Wisconsin Governor

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_6989.shtml
Wisconsin Protests Fail to Stop Anti-Union Bill from Progressing

teachers union, lol... no wonder it needed to be killed


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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14566065 - 06/05/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

lololol @ that fucking sign.


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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14566066 - 06/05/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Does it ever accomplish anything real? Of all the protests I have seen staged in my lifetime I have not once seen much of anything positive occur because of them including the ones in Egypt, Libya, Yeman, which resulted in civil wars and countless murders. Does protesting ever get shit done?



Egypt?





same corruption is in office in egypt, it's just a fresh new face


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566068 - 06/05/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well I dont know really, far as I know the only real way is to get people to unite and take over seats of power in senate/House of Commons to actually represent there interests instead of the corporations that fund them. Beyond that I dont really see anything that would be actually viable.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14566078 - 06/05/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I only see protests as a feel good action, There heads in the right place but they rarely if ever accomplish anything substantial. The Wisconsin protest might change something, slightly, only as much as it takes to subdue them. Its not gonna change anything major. What is it there protesting?




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Well I dont know really, far as I know the only real way is to get people to unite and take over seats of power in senate/House of Commons to actually represent there interests instead of the corporations that fund them. Beyond that I dont really see anything that would be actually viable.




jesus.

i typically dont nitpick over fucking up the occasional they're/their/there, but goddamn!


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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14566079 - 06/05/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Does it ever accomplish anything real? Of all the protests I have seen staged in my lifetime I have not once seen much of anything positive occur because of them including the ones in Egypt, Libya, Yeman, which resulted in civil wars and countless murders. Does protesting ever get shit done?



Egypt?





same corruption is in office in egypt, it's just a fresh new face




:whathesaid:

The power structure remains the same, the people behind the scenes remain the same. All they did was oust the rich figure head of the operation. Even have the same vice-president I believe.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14566082 - 06/05/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So you think if the people stood together for a real cause nothing would happen?
I do realize that is but a dream right now but it does not mean it cant or wont happen
in the future.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14566087 - 06/05/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Does it ever accomplish anything real? Of all the protests I have seen staged in my lifetime I have not once seen much of anything positive occur because of them including the ones in Egypt, Libya, Yeman, which resulted in civil wars and countless murders. Does protesting ever get shit done?



Egypt?





same corruption is in office in egypt, it's just a fresh new face




:whathesaid:

The power structure remains the same, the people behind the scenes remain the same. All they did was oust the rich figure head of the operation. Even have the same vice-president I believe.





Dint have to be that way. All the people wanted was Murbarak out. I heard no talk
of an actual complete regime change.


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566088 - 06/05/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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a real cause



I think any "real cause" that was valid and viable would likely be supported by the  majority of our population, and would thus not require a protest.

We're sensible people.  It just so happens most of the protests these days are over stupid shit that shouldn't be implemented.


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566096 - 06/05/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Im bad for that.



They unite for a cause, take a stand. Then what? Is there a actual plan beyond the gathering, do they even agree on key points of what they want changed?


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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14566097 - 06/05/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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lololol @ that fucking sign.





the signs are the best part of the protests so I guess something positive does come from them

think this one went to school with the other one






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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566099 - 06/05/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Dint have to be that way. All the people wanted was Murbarak out. I heard no talk
of an actual complete regime change.



I heard that protestors were upset that a lot of figureheads weren't being replaced. 

must not've been upset enough


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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14566130 - 06/05/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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We're sensible people.





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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566165 - 06/05/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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So you think if the people stood together for a real cause nothing would happen?
I do realize that is but a dream right now but it does not mean it cant or wont happen
in the future.





no, I fully believe that the people, together can make a change

I also believe there needs to be real planning, handling the shit within
the system and focus on a single goal at a time, let's take pot for
instance, we cant have one group demanding full legalization because and
another demanding medical marijuana because it's medicine while another is
screaming for some other bunch of bullshit... too many irons, if they all
focus on a single cause, one that lifts a restriction on our freedoms
without any bullshit games like medical cards and additional fees above
the taxes we'd already be paying then you may see progress

but guess what, everyone wants it their own way and the other ways are wrong


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts] * 1
    #14566195 - 06/05/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)




Does protesting accomplish anything? Absolutely. Protesting creates a unified strong and visible statement to other people. Does it change anything policy wise? Maybe, maybe not. At the very least protesting sparks thoughts in the minds of other people, and raises awareness of the problem. At its best protesting can cause major historical changes in the history of a nation.


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Re: Protesting [Re: CarnivalBarker] * 1
    #14566210 - 06/05/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ohyeah, mlk.  forgot


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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14566221 - 06/05/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Right now the people are too afraid to stand up and become another MLK.
But that may soon be different.


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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14566222 - 06/05/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That was a protest over a issue that brought a nation into civil war, it was far more then just a protest it was a revolution. Protesting does nothing beyond raising awareness of a issue to those that bother to pay attention to the protest. It falls short of doing anything tangible.


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566228 - 06/05/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Right now the people are too afraid to stand up and become another MLK.
But that may soon be different.





please explain


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14566232 - 06/05/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Scientology seems less popular now :shrug:


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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14566233 - 06/05/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

because america is in t3h p00per


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    #14566253 - 06/05/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Depends on the tactics used.



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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14566255 - 06/05/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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because america is in t3h p00per






so what shall we protest, the turd in the white house


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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566309 - 06/05/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.


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    #14566314 - 06/05/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Protesting works if you use guns to express your protest.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566317 - 06/05/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.





Are you involved? Then how do you know what is effective and whats
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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566324 - 06/05/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.




I frequently sign online petitions and join activist groups on facebook, so I'd say my opinion carries a good deal of weight.


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    #14566352 - 06/05/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.



lol i'm not involved in anarchism.  ya know why?  because its not effective.

hahahah


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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14566357 - 06/05/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Activism, sounds like something a hipster would take pride in.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14566363 - 06/05/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Activism, sounds like something a hipster would take pride in.





Not really.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566413 - 06/05/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.




if by activism you really mean 'do my elected representatives say "oh for god
sake, is there any fucking way to keep that fucker from coming back to my
office, calling, writing or sending emails and carrier pigeons",' if so, then
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Re: Protesting [Re: CarnivalBarker]
    #14566419 - 06/05/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.




I frequently sign online petitions and join activist groups on facebook, so I'd say my opinion carries a good deal of weight.





you've won me over, which petition allows me to sign up


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    #14566424 - 06/05/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.





Are you involved? Then how do you know what is effective and whats
not?

:facepalm:




Yeah actually. I actually dedicate the majority of my time to direct action projects, and the people I work with are constantly asking what is being effective and what's not.

Waving a sign doesn't accomplish much if you don't have some kind of threat to back up your demands. And I'm not talking strictly "violent" threats. Money, public image, law suits, etc. Anything you can use as leverage...

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I frequently sign online petitions and join activist groups on facebook, so I'd say my opinion carries a good deal of weight.




but does that translate into real world effect?


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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566436 - 06/05/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Im calling ur bluff. If you have dedicated enough effort you should know
what is indeed effective and would be telling us why this "activism" you
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    #14566437 - 06/05/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I frequently sign online petitions and join activist groups on facebook, so I'd say my opinion carries a good deal of weight.




but does that translate into real world effect?




:lol:
No

But that is as far as most people will go to protest against something they don't like. Tweet, facebook status, or online petition. They'll protest as long as they don't have to actually do anything.


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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14566438 - 06/05/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.



lol i'm not involved in anarchism.  ya know why?  because its not effective.

hahahah




Yeah... you know who gave you the 8 hour work day? Fucking anarchists! You know who gave you the WEEKEND... yeah fucking ANARCHISTS!!


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    #14566463 - 06/05/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Im calling ur bluff. If you have dedicated enough effort you should know
what is indeed effective and would be telling us why this "activism" you
do is not a waste of your time right?




I'm not going to directly name the groups I'm involved with in the same board that I talk about growing drugs on, but put it this way... our lawyers forced the Atlanta Police Department to adopt a whole new S.O.P. and fork over a giant pile of money because we documented them breaking the law.

Direct action is effective. Find what problem is affecting you and your neighborhood and figure out a direct way to fix it. The tactics depend on each situation uniquely. Symbolic protest is next to useless.


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Re: Protesting [Re: CarnivalBarker]
    #14566471 - 06/05/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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They'll protest as long as they don't have to actually do anything.





like vote.


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    #14566472 - 06/05/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.




if by activism you really mean 'do my elected representatives say "oh for god
sake, is there any fucking way to keep that fucker from coming back to my
office, calling, writing or sending emails and carrier pigeons",' if so, then
yes, I'm an activist




harassing politicians... sure I'll give you that.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566512 - 06/05/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.




if by activism you really mean 'do my elected representatives say "oh for god
sake, is there any fucking way to keep that fucker from coming back to my
office, calling, writing or sending emails and carrier pigeons",' if so, then
yes, I'm an activist




harassing politicians... sure I'll give you that.





it's not harassment, it's communication. you have to talk to these people, they arent mind readers


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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14566530 - 06/05/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You have to muscle the power away from them, writing letters aint gonna do shit. They cling to there positions of power like a animal clings to life.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14566926 - 06/05/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hey Deadhearts, look at what became of your protest. You fucking killed LNC!


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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566953 - 06/05/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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meams said:
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also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.



lol i'm not involved in anarchism.  ya know why?  because its not effective.

hahahah




Yeah... you know who gave you the 8 hour work day? Fucking anarchists! You know who gave you the WEEKEND... yeah fucking ANARCHISTS!!



lol i think its funny that i responded with "anarchism" when yo uhad previously said "activism"



shows how much attention i was paying :lol:

lol @ anarchists giving me the weekend & 8hr workday


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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14567144 - 06/05/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It'd be pretty cool IMO if an extremely liberal and violent for-the-people type group just randomly came out of the darkness after years of planning and violently yet efficiently got shit fucking done and changed the way the country was ran over night.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Funguspants]
    #14567176 - 06/05/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i dont think widespread violence would be cool


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Re: Protesting [Re: Funguspants]
    #14567227 - 06/05/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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It'd be pretty cool IMO if an extremely liberal and violent for-the-people type group just randomly came out of the darkness after years of planning and violently yet efficiently got shit fucking done and changed the way the country was ran over night.





that's a contradiction, liberals are for bigger government, not for the people


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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14567271 - 06/05/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Direct action Mutha fukas!!!!



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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14567310 - 06/05/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't mean liberal in that sense.  I meant like liberating the people.
My bad on that one, should have clarified.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Funguspants]
    #14567333 - 06/05/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

oh... you mean someone like sarah palin :smirk:


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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14567345 - 06/05/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

WHAT'S THIS BULLSHIT?

THE PROTESTERS are at it again, railing against the establishment - here and abroad.

I've watched them for over 70 years.

From the Depression marchers in Washington to the Vietnam protests to NAFTA and the WTO - and their one common salient feature is that they have never, never changed anything.

They will tell you they stopped the Vietnam war.

Hokum!



http://articles.philly.com/2003-12-04/news/25470208_1_protesters-wto-vietnam-war


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Re: Protesting [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14567533 - 06/06/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Does it ever accomplish anything real?



Sure it has.  It got LSD criminalized.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Silversoul]
    #14569932 - 06/06/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Does it ever accomplish anything real?



Sure it has.  It got LSD criminalized.






OMFGWTFBBQ

that was slick, slick


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OMFGWTFBBQ

that was slick, slick



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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14576418 - 06/07/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I work for a non-profit that advocates local environmental issues and a recent march helped our mayor make the right decision.  A rally was put together the day before and now more locals are aware of the present issue. Networking and proper marketing are used much more often where I work but this rally has made a difference in public awareness. I should have added to my earlier post that there needs to be a clear goal outlined, and backed up with a plan of action for any movement to be effective. That's why I said protests can be effective in changing local issues, or at least helpful to the cause as a whole.


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Re: Protesting [Re: guitardude3]
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    #14577758 - 06/08/11 12:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Raising "awareness" Is worse then protesting, Simply getting people to be aware of a issue doesnt do much more then let them know it exists. It gets next to no one actively involved in changing the policies surrounding that issue. ITs also another feels good action, your doing nothing by raising awareness other then expecting some other people who you've made aware to ultimately solve the problem by taking actual action.



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