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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566352 - 06/05/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.



lol i'm not involved in anarchism.  ya know why?  because its not effective.

hahahah


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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14566357 - 06/05/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Activism, sounds like something a hipster would take pride in.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14566363 - 06/05/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Activism, sounds like something a hipster would take pride in.





Not really.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566413 - 06/05/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.




if by activism you really mean 'do my elected representatives say "oh for god
sake, is there any fucking way to keep that fucker from coming back to my
office, calling, writing or sending emails and carrier pigeons",' if so, then
yes, I'm an activist


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Re: Protesting [Re: CarnivalBarker]
    #14566419 - 06/05/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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CarnivalBarker said:
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.




I frequently sign online petitions and join activist groups on facebook, so I'd say my opinion carries a good deal of weight.





you've won me over, which petition allows me to sign up


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Re: Protesting [Re: CarnivalBarker]
    #14566424 - 06/05/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.





Are you involved? Then how do you know what is effective and whats
not?

:facepalm:




Yeah actually. I actually dedicate the majority of my time to direct action projects, and the people I work with are constantly asking what is being effective and what's not.

Waving a sign doesn't accomplish much if you don't have some kind of threat to back up your demands. And I'm not talking strictly "violent" threats. Money, public image, law suits, etc. Anything you can use as leverage...

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I frequently sign online petitions and join activist groups on facebook, so I'd say my opinion carries a good deal of weight.




but does that translate into real world effect?


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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566436 - 06/05/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Im calling ur bluff. If you have dedicated enough effort you should know
what is indeed effective and would be telling us why this "activism" you
do is not a waste of your time right?


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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566437 - 06/05/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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CarnivalBarker said:
I frequently sign online petitions and join activist groups on facebook, so I'd say my opinion carries a good deal of weight.




but does that translate into real world effect?




:lol:
No

But that is as far as most people will go to protest against something they don't like. Tweet, facebook status, or online petition. They'll protest as long as they don't have to actually do anything.


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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14566438 - 06/05/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.



lol i'm not involved in anarchism.  ya know why?  because its not effective.

hahahah




Yeah... you know who gave you the 8 hour work day? Fucking anarchists! You know who gave you the WEEKEND... yeah fucking ANARCHISTS!!


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Re: Protesting [Re: DeadHearts] * 1
    #14566463 - 06/05/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:
Im calling ur bluff. If you have dedicated enough effort you should know
what is indeed effective and would be telling us why this "activism" you
do is not a waste of your time right?




I'm not going to directly name the groups I'm involved with in the same board that I talk about growing drugs on, but put it this way... our lawyers forced the Atlanta Police Department to adopt a whole new S.O.P. and fork over a giant pile of money because we documented them breaking the law.

Direct action is effective. Find what problem is affecting you and your neighborhood and figure out a direct way to fix it. The tactics depend on each situation uniquely. Symbolic protest is next to useless.


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Re: Protesting [Re: CarnivalBarker]
    #14566471 - 06/05/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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They'll protest as long as they don't have to actually do anything.





like vote.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14566472 - 06/05/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.




if by activism you really mean 'do my elected representatives say "oh for god
sake, is there any fucking way to keep that fucker from coming back to my
office, calling, writing or sending emails and carrier pigeons",' if so, then
yes, I'm an activist




harassing politicians... sure I'll give you that.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566512 - 06/05/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.




if by activism you really mean 'do my elected representatives say "oh for god
sake, is there any fucking way to keep that fucker from coming back to my
office, calling, writing or sending emails and carrier pigeons",' if so, then
yes, I'm an activist




harassing politicians... sure I'll give you that.





it's not harassment, it's communication. you have to talk to these people, they arent mind readers


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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14566530 - 06/05/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You have to muscle the power away from them, writing letters aint gonna do shit. They cling to there positions of power like a animal clings to life.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14566926 - 06/05/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Hey Deadhearts, look at what became of your protest. You fucking killed LNC!


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Re: Protesting [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14566953 - 06/05/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
Quote:

meams said:
Quote:

Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
also, is anyone here actually involved in activism? If not then you don't really have much room to say what's effective and what isn't.



lol i'm not involved in anarchism.  ya know why?  because its not effective.

hahahah




Yeah... you know who gave you the 8 hour work day? Fucking anarchists! You know who gave you the WEEKEND... yeah fucking ANARCHISTS!!



lol i think its funny that i responded with "anarchism" when yo uhad previously said "activism"



shows how much attention i was paying :lol:

lol @ anarchists giving me the weekend & 8hr workday


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Re: Protesting [Re: memes]
    #14567144 - 06/05/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It'd be pretty cool IMO if an extremely liberal and violent for-the-people type group just randomly came out of the darkness after years of planning and violently yet efficiently got shit fucking done and changed the way the country was ran over night.


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Re: Protesting [Re: Funguspants]
    #14567176 - 06/05/11 11:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i dont think widespread violence would be cool


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Re: Protesting [Re: Funguspants]
    #14567227 - 06/05/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Funguspants said:
It'd be pretty cool IMO if an extremely liberal and violent for-the-people type group just randomly came out of the darkness after years of planning and violently yet efficiently got shit fucking done and changed the way the country was ran over night.





that's a contradiction, liberals are for bigger government, not for the people


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Re: Protesting [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14567271 - 06/05/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Direct action Mutha fukas!!!!



:fawkes:


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