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Q about Deemers
    #14564501 - 06/05/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've only done DMT once at Ledges and it was freakin amazing, but I have never ran into it outside of there. I plan on using the lye and naptha way of extracting it from MHRB. I have a friend who is in pretty deep with the crowd of trippers and she was super excited when I told her I was going to attempt an extraction, she said I should let her work it threw her crowd but I dont know much about selling this stuff. How much on average should I get from an extraction of 100g MHRB if I do it correctly, I have herd anything from 1g to 3.5g and even up to 5g. What should I sell as 1 hit, I have a 3 digit coke scale so I can accurately weigh out 0.05g. And how much does this one hit go for? Will I get enough to actually turn a profit and make it worth not doing it all myself?

I recently tried Yopo seeds & Lime with 91% Isopropyl Alcohol extraction just to try a cheap version first and make sure I could do it. After it all dried up I could smell the DMT in it, but I think the Alcohol also absorbed too much plant fat because I had to do 2g to trip.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: Urbz]
    #14564556 - 06/05/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

1st off you made a huge error in telling anyone you are going to extract it. At this point it would be best to not do it.

If you sell it best to not tell people you "make it" as they will talk like women at the salon about it.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: argg]
    #14564579 - 06/05/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Haha true, I am still going to do it for myself ether way, but I told her in the first place not to tell anyone I had anything to do with it so hopfully she will listen.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: Urbz]
    #14564612 - 06/05/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Dont sell drugs.... And would suggest not announcing it


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: HarryL] * 1
    #14564618 - 06/05/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Dont sell drugs.... And would suggest not announcing it




why not sell drugs? The bad dealers are the ones selling vioxx and other bad ones. I think the more people selling DMT,weed,acid,shrooms,and other mind altering but not really dangerous ones the better. Lower prices for all!


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Re: Q about Deemers *DELETED* [Re: HarryL]
    #14564623 - 06/05/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: HowNowBrownCow]
    #14564636 - 06/05/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Its not frowned upon its just advice in this thread not to tell people you know in real life about your activities. If you where growing shrooms its best not to tell anyone about it.

some people here are against selling drugs and such but I believe more people need to sell them so prices go down and they are more available. I think everyone who says "hurr durr don't sell" are just dealers trying to keep other from selling.

Selling and using drugs without harming others is not wrong just illegal.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: HowNowBrownCow]
    #14564640 - 06/05/11 01:06 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Of course its a "N00b question" I said I only have done pure once and I don't know much about the stuff, therefore yes, I would be a DMT n00b, no need to try to insult me about it


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: Urbz]
    #14564643 - 06/05/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

How much are you planning on selling it for?


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14564646 - 06/05/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

no clue thats part of what this thread is asking


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    #14564652 - 06/05/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: Urbz]
    #14564667 - 06/05/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You have to test the market. Its like having a gas station far from anywhere that allows you to set the price high if there is no one with any around. If however there are several people with DMT slinging it you must either bring a better quality or price to the table.

It would be nice if you set the price according to your costs plus a fee for hourly work involved and such but in all honesty if you are starting out raping people for what you can get is not wrong its the free market way. Make sure if you are charging a lot to do it use it to build you DMT empire up and buy more product and keep striving to do a better job. I have no problem as a buyer of things to hand over money to someone who gives a fuck and tries to do the best they can. Sell high at first so you can get to bulk amounts faster bringing more DMT to all at lower costs later.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: HowNowBrownCow]
    #14564674 - 06/05/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Oh yes HNBC, I see that now, I am the one who is sorry for assuming you ment me.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: argg]
    #14564687 - 06/05/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Make sure if you are charging a lot to do it use it to build you DMT empire up and buy more product and keep striving to do a better job.




Im not trying to build an empire hehe
I'm just trying to extract, take a few hits, then spread the love!
Just wanted to know alot of the specifics so I could work out the maths of everything


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: Urbz]
    #14564822 - 06/05/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i have a friend who was in your position. the lye and naptha technique worked GREAT with mhrb. 56gs yielded more than enough doses to turn a profit. he sold it for $15 a trip due to there being a zero local supply. that price dropped between 5 and 10 due to there also being an almost zero local demand. he didnt spend $35 on the setup though so it paid for itself with alot of D left over. the most serious problem he encountered was the necessity of teaching people how to use it without burning it and wasting it all. many of those who didnt burn it up didnt inhale it all due to the horrid flavor. several unsatisfied customers. the people who did successfully trip their balls off, werent interested in repeating the experience for some time. also, he never told anyone he made it, he just told people he had a source for it. the only way to know how it will work out, is to give it a shot, thats my $0.02.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: Urbz]
    #14564913 - 06/05/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Free....


If/when I ever have enough on hand I'm so looking forward to giving much of it out for free, especially to those that have never tried it....I'm stoked on it!, just like when I have my own garden I plan on sharing lots of my buds with people.



Why not, you know :shrug:? I'll get more satisfaction from sharing the fruits of my labor for free than the money can ever give me. Who knows, I may even occasionally get something in return.




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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: openmind]
    #14564999 - 06/05/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You're lucky to get 1% from your first extractions, so you'll have to invest some cash to get going and gain experience.

Getting MHRB, jars, solvent and more attracts attention, and you need your own quiet place to do the extractions.

Mailorder prices are rather steep. One hundred dollars for a gram of white crystals, but perhaps it's better to ask for donations from that clique; you know, for buying MHRB.

No need to do it for free, but becoming a dealer is never a good plan.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: ephrem]
    #14565065 - 06/05/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

how about if you do an extraction you try not to be an asshole and just give it out for free? It aint about the money with that stuff, the profit motivation is what will make all those plants illegal eventually, thus making it hard for anyone to do ayahuasca or dmt outside south america.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: JimLahey]
    #14565390 - 06/05/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Good advice I received from a friend who produces ayahuasca analog extracts and hosts ceremonies - do not charge people for the sacred experience.  Money should not be a prerequisite.  That being said, humbly offer your hat for donations.  Some people don't want to pay for some drug they've never tried before, but willingly will take it if you offer it to them for free just for the new experience, and come out of the experience more enlightened than going in, and that is worth more than the price of DMT to them.  He once received a $250 donation for a single session from one person, the transformation was so healing for them.  I'm not saying you won't throw out a whole lot of free DMT into the world, but you will receive all you need, especially if you are doing good for the universe, it has this way of doing good for you.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: Achuma]
    #14574117 - 06/07/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

lol I have no job, so if i give it all away then one of my friends come over the next day wanting some, I'll have no deemz or money to make more, but I am going to be giving away alot more than expected, just re checked prices and stuff threw a new site, MH with 2% yield was mentioned in another thread threw maya-ethnobotanicals.com
, if that works as said ill be able to make 5g for $100, 20 a gram isn't bad at all


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: Urbz]
    #14575171 - 06/07/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Two percent is too high a yield.

If you hone your skills and buy top notch bark then you might see 1,5%/1.8%.

At 20$ a gram it just isn't cost effective.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: ephrem]
    #14587414 - 06/09/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

you will not be getting a 2% yield, especially your first time...sorry to sound like a dick


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: JimLahey]
    #14587465 - 06/09/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If you're in this for the money then choose another substance. After buying the mhrb, supplies, shipping etc., you won't make much money with just 100g even if you do everything to the T you won't have much room for profit. My advice for now, flip some MJ instead and extract the deemz for personal use and share with  friends. After you get good at it then maybe give it a try.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: Sorealism]
    #14627958 - 06/17/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

not in it for the money, and im gonna be buying 250gs at once. I'm in it for getting a few free doses, sell enough to get another 250gs worth and get a few more free doses. the only reason money is a factor is for the re-up


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: Urbz]
    #14628025 - 06/17/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

DMT is toooooo fucked up to sell. Who knows you might sell it to some kid who smokes it, convinces himself that you/dmt is the devil. And calls the cops just because he doesn't want anyone to go through what he did. People are fucking stupid. If your gonna sell SERIOUSLY watch who your selling too.


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: heratogwea]
    #14628156 - 06/17/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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DMT is toooooo fucked up to sell. Who knows you might sell it to some kid who smokes it, convinces himself that you/dmt is the devil. And calls the cops just because he doesn't want anyone to go through what he did. People are fucking stupid.



:lol: my landlord did this when i stupidly got him to order a kg of MHRB. he said he was interested :lol: and i told him all about how to be ready and accept the experience that there is no death but...he couldnt accept it and had an awful trip and he said he tossed the entire kg of MHRB in the trash when i asked for it :lol: and i was kinda worried he might call the cops or something because he was all like "it scared the shit outta me...'that felt dangerous'...'someone could die from that stuff'...'what in the hell was that'...'im tossin it for the safety of me and you'...

it was too much and too celestial for his 1 track american brain and he couldn't handle it and it scared him in many different ways...its like he just walked into a witches' alchemy room where he had just witnessed transmutation take place....he was on some 'trying to save people from smoking it' type of shit...the looks he was giving me were priceless. like i was the mad scientist warlock that just fucked him up for eternity type look :rofl:


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Re: Q about Deemers [Re: OregonChronic]
    #14628247 - 06/17/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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DMT is toooooo fucked up to sell. Who knows you might sell it to some kid who smokes it, convinces himself that you/dmt is the devil. And calls the cops just because he doesn't want anyone to go through what he did. People are fucking stupid.



:lol: my landlord did this when i stupidly got him to order a kg of MHRB. he said he was interested :lol: and i told him all about how to be ready and accept the experience that there is no death but...he couldnt accept it and had an awful trip and he said he tossed the entire kg of MHRB in the trash when i asked for it :lol: and i was kinda worried he might call the cops or something because he was all like "it scared the shit outta me...'that felt dangerous'...'someone could die from that stuff'...'what in the hell was that'...'im tossin it for the safety of me and you'...

it was too much and too celestial for his 1 track american brain and he couldn't handle it and it scared him in many different ways...its like he just walked into a witches' alchemy room where he had just witnessed transmutation take place....he was on some 'trying to save people from smoking it' type of shit...the looks he was giving me were priceless. like i was the mad scientist warlock that just fucked him up for eternity type look :rofl:





HAHahaha perfect example. The house of cards that is the minds of most americans is pretty fragile. Most can't handle the reality of that experience.

Glad you didn't get into any trouble!


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