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Seizures at the end of trip
    #14561778 - 06/04/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm pretty experienced with mushrooms, I've tripped many times and recently have had several experiences where, near the very tail end of my trip, I've had something like a seizure. It's has happened three times now and gotten progressively worse each time, it starts as strong nausea and seconds later I lose my grip on reality and myself. I black out and for about a minute and a half have no idea where I am, WHO I am, or any sense of what is going on. On the first two occasions I happened to be alone (due to the nausea I excused myself to the bathroom) and came to, in a fetal or sitting position. Last night however, my girlfriend and I each took an eighth of cubes and had a blast with the trip, very clean and pleasant, no problems or discomfort all night. Several hours later, things had wound down and I got a call from a couple friends, one of whom  happens to live in the apartment downstairs from mine and went down to chat for a few minutes. After being down there for ten minutes or so,  I felt the familiar nauseous sensation come over me and I knew what was happening and said to my friend, "I'm about to have one of my episodes" and proceeded to take a couple steps towards the bathroom, and then next thing I know I was flat on my back and they were standing over me checking my pulse and breathing while I gOt a grip on reality. I was soaked from head to toe in sweat, I literally could have wrung the moisture out of my shirt. Once I started feeling better I asked for details of what had happens and was told that my legs suddenly gave out and I collapsed and began to convulse and gurgle. The thing that scares me most is that apparently my eyes were rolling in my head, one straight up towards the top of my head and one down and towards my nose. Also when I fell I narrowly missed hitting my head on sharp corners on either side of me but of course that was just dumb luck. I have resolved not to trip again because it seems that there is something in my body chemistry that makes it dangerous for me to take them. Oh and also for just a little background I'm in pretty good health, blood pressure and cholesterol are perfect, I have no medical conditions at all, I do smoke pot and cigarettes and drink moderately, I'm 24 and not at all overweight. Any thoughts would be very appreciated as I'm very dissapointed that I'm not able to enjoy shrooms anymore.

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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: ShroomBoomBoom]
    #14561842 - 06/04/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Damn man, sounds terrible, sorry to hear about the misfortune.

I would say that this is a condition that you need to keep a close eye on. Drugs can do weird things, but I've never heard of anyone having a seizure after eating some mushrooms. Sounds to me like a condition you have, that the effects mushrooms are exacerbating.

I would say try acid or something other than mushrooms and see if it happens again, but I wouldn't want you to end up having another seizure!

Welcome to the shroomery by the way, and best of luck in figuring out what's going on.


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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: bholzer]
    #14561921 - 06/04/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Any chance you were dehydrated? Dehydration can precipitate seizures in some people. I know that I pee buckets some mushroom sessions, and have to keep reminding myself to drink, drink, drink more water. If that's not it, well, I don't have any ideas for you.

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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: bholzer]
    #14561977 - 06/04/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

mushrooms can cause "siezures", they are psychedelically induced(well obviously)...i as well as many others have had similar if not identical experiences.

on my last trip couple weeks ago, i ate my last 2.5g on empty stomach, didnt eat the entire day and they kicked in fast(20-30 min)  It wasnt as intese as i thought it would be at first, but i suddenly got this ill feeling(nausea) and then my vision began to blur out and my body started tingling in a way i only ever felt a hand full of times throughout my 26 years.  I have had out of body experiences too many times to count, and the vibrations from natural OBE's(always was sober having them) and ive felt intese vibrations to so subtle i not even barely feeling them, but just aware of myself vibrating. Now see, i say this because i know shrooms provide OBE's at higher doses, and this is why i usually too pussy to eat too many, cuz im more sensitive to them having had hundreds of experiences at various "levels".

I didnt seiz up, i was telling god, not infront of my parents please...so i made it upstairs and sweat just started pouring i think i may of siezed but dont remember it, i ripped my shirt off and my pants off and lay on the floor.  Its messed up because the PEU are potent as fuck, and i was only feeling like i was on about 1.5g but had taken 2.5....this happened HOURS after the trip began...so like you, i had this on the lower end of the trip, not at the peak like one would imagine this would happen. ya know? i know u feel the same, its like wtf is happening here?  someone lurking at shroomery has our answers, lets hope they see this and say their peice. i would appreciate any insight into this as well, as i feel having read your experience, perhaps i am trying to be shown where this is headed. cuz i have shroomed hundreds of times, rolled hundreds(hard telling what in them all too, :shame: )

i feel like this post is a bit choppy but try to bear with me, i am hungover :lol:  I was gonna say for 2.5g the trip seemed weak, but still damn good, but i went from like a weak level 3 to a strong level 4 instantly.  So i dont know if it has something to do with our metabolism??? i am pretty skinny dude, 155lb 5'10", so i dont know if my body was just taking its sweet ass time getting the shrooms into my blood stream or what the hell. but it was scary as fuck.  I am very deep guy, all about the love and shit, and i wanted to share that to the best of my awareness, these episodes happen to me when i am around negative people OR even when i THINK of someone who is negative or has a lot of agression/hostility.  There was a trip where i felt as thought someones hostility was crippling me in my open mind state. i was made aware of their "demon" and it feels shitty, i thought it was killing me(no its not the same as ego death, trust me, i am dumbfounded as to what it is IME)

feels like im writing a novel. i think i said all i wanted to say tho, sorry i couldnt be more intelligible LOL


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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14561995 - 06/04/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Any chance you were dehydrated? Dehydration can precipitate seizures in some people. I know that I pee buckets some mushroom sessions, and have to keep reminding myself to drink, drink, drink more water. If that's not it, well, I don't have any ideas for you.





That is what happened to me after a 16+ hour shroom and rue trip. I did not drink enough, it was hot, and somewhere about 10am I was trying to get some sleep, walked to the bathroom, and woke up on the floor convulsing and in a lot of pain. Then I vomited a lot for fasting for 2 days. My parents were going to take me to the hospital, but instead I opted to lay on the floor and accept death. I was fine in a few days.

I really think it was the dehydration. Especially if you drink alcohol, or have caffeine. Now I make sure I have water and juice around me at all times. Lemon or lime water with ice is fantastic while tripping and keeps you hydrated.


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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: LSDilocybin]
    #14562027 - 06/04/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i ate the shrooms with some yogurt...i try to keep hydrated, but maybe that did have something or everything to do with it :shrug:

this is why i dont even bother eating over 2g's most of the time, cuz i can trip harder off less with all my minds experience with the shrooms.

you pry are right tho bro, i think im gonna just start rockin a gatorade or powerade for my trips. get some electrolytes in me. i bet you are totally right bro.

the only thing that makes me wonder is how come we start tripping BALLLLLLSSS? will that happen if u are dehydrated? i guess people do start hallucinating anyway like in the desert and shit when hot and dehydrated.  damn, thank you for saying your piece. and to the OP. thank u for the post, just helps me understand shit clearer. and i mean im the most experience shroomer i know in person.  most the cats i kick it with would think the stereotypical shit u hear about shrooms...which is irritating, yeah? so i dont wanna be left in the dark.  I dont wanna be a fucking dummy, i wanna know the truth. ya know?


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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: LSDilocybin]
    #14562077 - 06/04/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This happened to a friend of mine and he ended up in the hospital tripping on a 5g dose.

Shitty.

It never happened to him again though..


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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: LSDilocybin]
    #14562182 - 06/04/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I get that. I am just assuming that it was dehydration. Most of my problems on shrooms are from being tired, dehydrated, exhausted, or have been drinking (dehydrated). One of these things always seems to be present when a bad trip/health problem occurs from the trip reports.


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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: Admiral Ackbar]
    #14562424 - 06/04/11 10:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hmmm... this is very strange.  The almost exact thing happened to me.  I'm not sure I exactly had a seizure to the fullest extent, but it was still very harsh.  I'll keep it short and say I tripped for about 3-4 hours until the nausea came upon me.  I ate fruits/veggies during the trip, drank enough water, and am a relatively healthy individual with no medical conditions at all.  Let's just say I was almost sober until this nausea and hazyness punched me right in the face.  Made my way to the bathroom to try and puke.  Of course, I ended up not having the energy to hold myself up and sprawled out onto the floor.

The complete mindfuck that ensued was, well, completely ridiculous.  To put it into words would be laughable, but I will let it be known that is was surreal-ly scary.  Me, like you, I guess have no earthly idea where this came from.  Like, why now instead of earlier?  I was just sitting there watching tv, and this wave of disgust roars through my body.  It not only kicks my ass, it KO's me into coma. Doesn't make much sense, but if the both of us experienced this it must mean something.

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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: Bravescd14]
    #14562521 - 06/04/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Something kind of like this happened to me...

I was about 3 hours into the trip and I went out for a cigarette. Then I came back inside, and as I was shutting the door I felt very light headed and short of breath and I must have collapsed. I woke up on the floor at what felt like a minute later, but I have no idea how long I was blacked out for. I got up and was covered in sweat. I made it to my bed and just fell onto it with sweat basically pouring out of my back and face in particular.

I woke up the next morning feeling fine though, and it hasn't happened since.

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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: Nevermind]
    #14562652 - 06/04/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Dehydration could have had something to do with what happened last night, I am actually sunburned kind of badly and I could see that attributing to to it, but it doesn't fit the other two occasions this has happened.. In fact, I can't come up with anything in cOmmon between these occurrences, different doses each time ranging from a low dose up to about four grams or so. As for the suggestion to try acid I have a couple of times and quite enjoyed it but by far prefer the overall experience of mushrooms. And braves, I know exactly what you mean by ridiculous mindfuck, which is why I didn't even get into how I felt when this all went down, tried to stick to the physical side of things lol. I'm curious has anyone that's experienced this sort of thing, continued to have a problem long term? Or should I say has it persisted? I ask because as much as I would like to continue using them, I can't bring myself to maybe, knowingly cause myself to have  "seizures" or whatever they may be. As it stands, if I were to take them I'd have to stay on the couch or something just to make sure I don't hurt myself :undecided:

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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: ShroomBoomBoom]
    #14562754 - 06/05/11 12:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

When I moved to Colorado I ate a tiny dose, I am talking .25max a tiny little shroom. 

Any ways a few hours in I ended up passing out when I was trying to take  a piss.  I woke up with my nose completely rug burned and my toe nail was bleeding.

It was bad but I have no clue what caused it, and its never happened again.


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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: ShroomBoomBoom]
    #14562759 - 06/05/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ShroomBoomBoom, if this happens that often then I would definitely say that psychedelics are not for you. I'm so sorry. But clearly your brain has a bad reaction and you really should just stay away from them.


I've seen this happen to several people, never had it happen to myself, and I've never noticed any connection with dehydration, but I'll keep that in mind. I always make sure to stay hydrated when I trip anyways.


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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14562856 - 06/05/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think it's dehydration/lack of breathing honestly. This happened to me when I would drink afterwards or smoke ganja and ghost hit it to avoid smoke (prevent oxygen to the brain). If you smoke pot, take a deep hit and hold it in as long as you can (deep like you can't breathe even a single molecule in anymore) and see if it starts to come on after 5-15 seconds. Don't be around sharp edges.

I don't know though because my other friends didn't have this happen to them but they all drink plenty of water and I hardly drink 1-2 glasses of water a day.

Curious.

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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14563501 - 06/05/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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When I moved to Colorado I ate a tiny dose, I am talking .25max a tiny little shroom. 

Any ways a few hours in I ended up passing out when I was trying to take  a piss.  I woke up with my nose completely rug burned and my toe nail was bleeding.

It was bad but I have no clue what caused it, and its never happened again.




Yeah my gf passes out like 3 times a year when she takes a piss

She went to the doctor for it and they told her it happens to a lot of people.

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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: heratogwea]
    #14563805 - 06/05/11 09:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

In my 25 years this has happened to me 3 times.  Two of the times I was definitely dehydrated from working in the sun.  The first time it happened I was sitting on the couch after work and started feeling light headed and tingly.  I stood up and said "baby I don't feel so good", then I guess my eyes rolled in the back of my head and I hit the floor, when I came to it felt like my whole body was slightly vibrating and my vision was all white.  She drove me to the hospital and put they me on an IV for fluids.  Like OneU said I think it has to do with dehydration and lack of breathing because every time I would feel the feeling coming on I would hyperventilate in panic.  It's a crazy feeling right before you black out,  it's like I'm being disconnected from this world, I forget my name, where I am and everything for a minute or so.

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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: ShroomBoomBoom]
    #14563878 - 06/05/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it could possibly be epilepsy. i have a friend who's epilepsy is nwo triggered by tripping, and he can't really trip anymore.


i think it would be a good idea for you to go see a doctor and get some MRI/CT scans done. this is not the sort of thing you want to take chances with.


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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: heratogwea]
    #14564000 - 06/05/11 10:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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When I moved to Colorado I ate a tiny dose, I am talking .25max a tiny little shroom. 

Any ways a few hours in I ended up passing out when I was trying to take  a piss.  I woke up with my nose completely rug burned and my toe nail was bleeding.

It was bad but I have no clue what caused it, and its never happened again.




Yeah my gf passes out like 3 times a year when she takes a piss

She went to the doctor for it and they told her it happens to a lot of people.




Thats fascinating, I remember trying and pushing really hard.  You guys know how shrooms can make you feel like you have to piss sometimes.


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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14564425 - 06/05/11 12:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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In my 25 years this has happened to me 3 times.  Two of the times I was definitely dehydrated from working in the sun.  The first time it happened I was sitting on the couch after work and started feeling light headed and tingly.  I stood up and said "baby I don't feel so good", then I guess my eyes rolled in the back of my head and I hit the floor, when I came to it felt like my whole body was slightly vibrating and my vision was all white.  She drove me to the hospital and put they me on an IV for fluids.  Like OneU said I think it has to do with dehydration and lack of breathing because every time I would feel the feeling coming on I would hyperventilate in panic.  It's a crazy feeling right before you black out,  it's like I'm being disconnected from this world, I forget my name, where I am and everything for a minute or so.



That is a pretty good description of how I felt.

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When I moved to Colorado ........




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Re: Seizures at the end of trip [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14564616 - 06/05/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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it could possibly be epilepsy. i have a friend who's epilepsy is nwo triggered by tripping, and he can't really trip anymore.


i think it would be a good idea for you to go see a doctor and get some MRI/CT scans done. this is not the sort of thing you want to take chances with.



It's not epilepsy. People with epilepsy may encounter this but this is not caused by epilepsy.

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