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Revere's main purpose in making the ride wasn't to warn the British that the Colonists were alerted and ready to resist having their weaponry seized, no. But then, Palin doesn't say that was his main purpose.
Now it's about the 'main' purpose of his ride. 
The way Sarah phrased things, it was the only purpose, something which isn't borne out by history as even a foot note. She made that shit up.
I never thought I'd find myself attempting to dumb down something Sarah attempted to portray, but here goes. I'm sure this is what her Karl Roveist handlers were trying to teach her to say, but she fucked it up. The message we were supposed to get would go something like this: "Paul Revere is the GOP. The British are the Democrats. Along comes (I hire helicopters to fly me over animals so I can shoot them from the safety of my seat) Sarah, to keep us safe from the Democrats who want to take away our guns". It's just that she's too retarded to pull it off. They really need to stick to teaching her to memorize one-liners, like they had to do with Bush.
Never mind that gun laws have actually been relaxed since Bush left office, and 'taking away our guns' is not even being talked about, let alone considered. However, speeches by the GOP about Dems taking away our guns get lots of votes in any district where Mountain Dew outsells mineral water, or where it takes 32 people sitting in a circle to make a full set of teeth.
Apparently the GOP wants their base to think Obama, with a stroke of the pen Bill Ayers gave him as a Ramadan present, is going to overturn the US Constitution, and then unleash the Weather Underground with Jessie Jackson in command, to come take away all our guns. RR
No Roger, you continue to lie and ignore the actual facts. What Palin said was 100% correct. What you say she said is 100% lie. Everything you say is dumbed down from Palin. You are a liar who doesn't know history and a propagandist who erects shitty straw men when you get caught in your bullshit.
Just out of curiosity what is your position on the War Powers Act and Obama's adventure in Libya and the Constitutionality of that?
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And yes, RR, it is a fact.
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OK, here's the text of Paul Revere's own statement of the facts. Please show where he said he told the British they can't "take away our guns" as a 'main point' 'side point' or 'any point at all'. RR
From the Massachusetts Historical Society:
Dear Sir,
Having a little leisure, I wish to fullfill my promise, of giving you some facts, and Anecdotes, prior to the Battle of Lexington, which I do not remember to have seen in any history of the American Revolution.
In the year 1773 I was imployed by the Select men of the Town of Boston to carry the Account of the Destruction of the Tea to New-York; and afterwards, 1774, to Carry their dispatches to New-York and Philadelphia for Calling a Congress; and afterwards to Congress, several times.* [This asterisk points to a note in the left margin written by Jeremy Belknap: "Let the narrative begin here." ] In the Fall of 1774 & Winter of 1775 I was one of upwards of thirty, cheifly mechanics, who formed our selves in to a Committee for the purpose of watching the Movements of the British Soldiers, and gaining every intelegence of the movements of the Tories. We held our meetings at the Green-Dragon Tavern. We were so carefull that our meetings should be kept Secret; that every time we met, every person swore upon the Bible, that they would not discover any of our transactions, But to Messrs. Hancock, Adams, Doctors Warren, Church, & one or two more. About November, when things began to grow Serious, a Gentleman who had Conections with the Tory party, but was a Whig at heart, aquainted me, that our meetings were discovered, & mentioned the identical words that were spoken among us the Night before. We did not then distrust Dr. Church, but supposed it must be some one among us. We removed to another place, which we thought was more secure: but here we found that all our transactions were communicated to Governor Gage. (This came to me through the then Secretary Flucker; He told it to the Gentleman mentioned above). It was then a common opinion, that there was a Traytor in the provincial Con gress, & that Gage was posessed of all their Secrets. (Church was a member of that Congress for Boston.) In the Winter, towards the Spring, we fre- quently took Turns, two and two, to Watch the Soldiers, By patroling the Streets all night. The Saturday Night preceding the 19th of April, about 12 oClock at Night, the Boats belonging to the Transports were all launched, & carried under the Sterns of the Men of War. (They had been previously hauld up & repaired). We likewise found that the Grenadiers and light Infantry were all taken off duty.
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From these movements, we expected something serious was [ . . . ] be transacted. On Tuesday evening, the 18th, it was observed, that a number of Soldiers were marching towards the bottom of the Common. About 10 o'Clock, Dr. Warren Sent in great haste for me, and beged that I would imediately Set off for Lexington, where Messrs. Hancock & Adams were, and acquaint them of the Movement, and that it was thought they were the objets. When I got to Dr. Warren's house, I found he had sent an express by land to Lexington - a Mr. Wm. Daws. The Sunday before, by desire of Dr. Warren, I had been to Lexington, to Mess. Hancock and Adams, who were at the Rev. Mr. Clark's. I returned at Night thro Charlestown; there I agreed with a Col. Conant, & some other Gentle men, in Charleston, that if the British went out by Water, we would shew two Lanthorns in the North Church Steeple; & if by Land, one, as a Signal; for we were aprehensive it would be di ficult to Cross the Charles River, or git over Boston neck. I left Dr. Warrens, called upon a friend, and desired him to make the Signals. I then went Home, took my Boots and Surtout, and went to the North part of the Town, where I had kept a Boat; two friends rowed me across Charles River, a little to the eastward where the Somerset Man of War lay. It was then young flood, the Ship was winding, & the moon was Rising. They landed me on Charlestown side. When I got into Town, I met Col. Conant, & several others; they said they had seen our signals. I told them what was Acting, & went to git me a Horse; I got a Horse of Deacon Larkin. While the Horse was preparing, Richard Devens, Esq. who was one of the Committee of Safty, came to me, & told me, that he came down the Road from Lexington, after Sundown, that evening; that He met ten British Officers, all well mounted, & armed, going up the Road. I set off upon a very good Horse; it was then about 11 o'Clock, & very pleasant. After I had passed Charlestown Neck, & got nearly opposite where Mark was hung in chains, I saw two men on Horse back, under a Tree. When I got near them, I discovered they were British officer. One tryed to git a head of Me, & the other to take me. I turned my Horse very quick, & Galloped towards Charlestown neck, and then pushed for the Medford Road. The one who chased me, endeavoring to Cut me off, got into a Clay pond, near where the new Tavern is now built. I got clear of him,
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and went thro Medford, over the Bridge, & up to Menotomy. In Medford, I awaked the Captain of the Minute men; & after that, I alarmed almost every House, till I got to Lexington. I found Mrs. Messrs. Hancock & Adams at the Rev. Mr. Clark's; I told them my errand, and inquired for Mr. Daws; they said he had not been there; I related the story of the two officers, & supposed that He must have been stopped, as he ought to have been there before me. After I had been there about half an Hour, Mr. Daws came; after we refreshid our selves, we and set off for Concord, to secure the Stores, &c. there. We were overtaken by a young Docter Prescot, whom we found to be a high Son of Liberty. I told them of the ten officers that Mr. Devens mett, and that it was pro- bable we might be stoped before we got to Concord; for I supposed that after Night, they divided them selves, and that two of them had fixed themselves in such passages as were most likely to stop any intelegence going to Concord. I likewise mentioned, that we had better allarm all the In- habitents till we got to Concord; the young Doctor much ap- proved of it, and said, he would stop with either of us, for the people between that & Concord knew him, & would give the more credit to what we said. We had got nearly half way. Mr Daws & the Doctor stoped to allarm the people of a House: I was about one hundred Rod a head, when I saw two men, in nearly the same situation as those officer were, near Charlestown. I called for the Doctor & Daws to come up; - were two & we would have them in an Instant I was surrounded by four; - they had placed themselves in a Straight Road, that inclined each way; they had taken down a pair of Barrs on the North side of the Road, & two of them were under a tree in the pasture. The Docter being foremost, he came up; and we tryed to git past them; but they being armed with pis- tols & swords, they forced us in to the pasture; -the Docter jum- ped his Horse over a low Stone wall, and got to Concord.
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I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back, and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from, & what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he as- ked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms. He then orderd them to advance, & to lead me in front. When we got to the Road, they turned down towards Lexington. When we had got about one Mile, the Major Rode up to the officer that was leading me, & told him to give me to the Sergeant. As soon as he took me, the Major orderd him, if I attempted to run, or any body insulted them, to blow my brains out. We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which ap- peared to alarm them very much. The Major inqui- red of me how far it was to Cambridge, and if there were any other Road? After some consultation, the Major
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Major Rode up to the Sargent, & asked if his Horse was tired? He told answered him, he was - (He was a Sargent of Grenadiers, and had a small Horse) - then, said He, take that man's Horse. I dismounted, & the Sargent mounted my Horse, when they all rode towards Lexington Meeting-House. I went across the Burying-ground, & some pastures, & came to the Revd. Mr. Clark's House, where I found Messrs. Hancok & Adams. I told them of my treatment, & they concluded to go from that House to wards Woburn. I went with them, & a Mr. Lowell, who was a Clerk to Mr. Hancock. When we got to the House where they intended to stop, Mr. Lowell & I my self returned to Mr. Clark's, to find what was going on. When we got there, an elderly man came in; he said he had just come from the Tavern, that a Man had come from Boston, who said there were no British troops coming. Mr. Lowell & my self went towards the Tavern, when we met a Man on a full gallop, who told us the Troops were coming up the Rocks. We afterwards met another, who said they were close by. Mr. Lowell asked me to go to the Tavern with him, to a Bit a Trunk of papers belonging to Mr. Hancock. We went up Chamber; & while we were giting the Trunk, we saw the British very near, upon a full March. We hurried to wards Mr. Clark's House. In our way, we passed through the Militia. There were about 50. When we had got about 100 Yards from the meeting-House the British Troops appeard on both Sides of the Meeting-House. In their
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In their Front was an Officer on Horse back. They made a Short Halt; when I saw, & heard, a Gun fired, which appeared to be a Pistol. Then I could distinguish two Guns, & then a Continual roar of Musquetry; When we made off with the Trunk.
As I have mentioned Dr. Church, perhaps it might not be disagreeable to mention some Matters of my own knowledge, respecting Him. He appeared to be a high son of Liberty. He frequented all the places where they met, Was incouraged by all the leaders of the Sons of Liberty, & it appeared he was respected by them, though I knew that Dr. Warren had not the greatest affection for him. He was esteemed a very capable writer, especially in verese; and as the Whig party needed every Strenght, they feared, as well as courted Him. Though it was known, that some of the Liberty Songs, which We composed, were parodized by him, in favor of the British, yet none dare charge him with it. I was a constant & critical observer of him, and I must say, that I never thought Him a man of Principle; and I doubted much in my own mind, wether He was a real Whig. I knew that He kept company with a Capt. Price, a half-pay British officer, & that He frequently dined with him, & Robinson, one of the Commissi -oners. I know that one of his intimate aquaintances asked him why he was so often with Robinson and Price? His answer was, that He kept Company with them on purpose to find out their plans. The day after the Battle of Lexington, I came across met him in Cambridge, when He shew me some blood on his stocking, which he said spirted on him from a Man who was killed near him, as he was urging the Militia on. I well remember, that I argued with my self, if a Man will risque his life in a Cause, he must be a Friend to that cause; & I never suspected him after, till He was charged with being a Traytor.
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The same day I met Dr. Warren. He was President of the Committee of Safety. He engaged me as a Messinger, to do the out of doors business for that committee; which gave me an opportunity of being frequently with them. The Friday evening after, about sun set, I was sitting with some, or near all that Committee, in their room, which was at Mr. Hastings's House at Cambridge. Dr. Church, all at once, started up - Dr. Warren, said He, I am determined to go into Boston tomorrow - (it set them all a stairing) - Dr. Warren replyed, Are you serious, Dr. Church? they will Hang you if they catch you in Boston. He replyed, I am serious, and am determined to go at all adventures. After a considerable conversation, Dr. Warren said, If you are determined, let us make some business for you. They agreed that he should go to Bit medicine for their & our Wounded officers. He went the next morning; & I think he came back on Sunday evening. After He had told the Committee how things were, I took him a side, & inquired particularly how they treated him? he said, that as soon as he got to their lines on the Boston Neck, they made him a prisoner, & carried him to General Gage, where He was examined, & then He was sent to Gould's Barracks, & was not suffered to go home but once. After He was taken up, for holding a Correspondence with the Brittish, I came a Cross Deacon Caleb Davis;-we entred into Conversation about Him;-He told me, that the morning Church went into Boston, He (Davis) received a Bilet for General Gage-(he then did not know that Church was in Town)-When he got to the General's House, he was told, the General could not be spoke with, that He was in private with a Gentle man; that He waited near half an Hour,-When General Gage & Dr. Church came out of a Room, discoursing together, like
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like persons who had been long aquainted. He ap -peared to be quite surprized at seeing Deacon Davis there; that he (Church) went where he pleased, while in Boston, only a Major Caine, one of Gage's Aids, went with him. I was told by another person whom I could depend upon, that he saw Church go in to General Gage's House, at the above time; that He got out of the Chaise and went up the steps more like a Man that was aquainted, than a prisoner. Sometime after, perhaps a Year or two, I fell in company with a Gentleman who studied with Church -in discoursing about him, I related what I have men tioned above; He said, He did not doubt that He was in the Interest of the Brittish; & that it was He who informed Gen. Gage That he knew for Certain, that a Short time before the Battle of Lexing ton, (for He then lived with Him, & took Care of his Business & Books) He had no money by him, and was much drove for money; that all at once, He had several Hundred New Brittish Guineas; and that He thought at the time, where they came from.
Thus, Sir, I have endeavoured to give you a Short detail of some matters, of which perhaps no person but my self have have documents, or knowledge. I have men tioned some names which you are aquainted with: I wish you would Ask them, if they can remember the Circumstances I alude to. I am, Sir, with every Sentment of esteem, Your Humble Servant, Paul Revere
Col. Revere's Letter.
A Letter from Col. Paul Revere to the Corresponding Secretary [Jeremy Belknap].
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He warned them that the militia was ready for them.
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I see. It just went from "told them they can't take away our guns" to "I alarmed the county all the way up", but everything Sarah said is 100% true. There's no mention of 'taking away our guns', a familiar line in modern GOP fundraising literature.
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No Roger, you continue to lie and ignore the actual facts. What Palin said was 100% correct. What you say she said is 100% lie. Everything you say is dumbed down from Palin. You are a liar who doesn't know history and a propagandist who erects shitty straw men when you get caught in your bullshit.
Preserved before you edit. RR
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Just what is it that you thought the Redcoats were doing? Having a tea social?
http://www.oldnorth.com/history/april18.htm
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With those words, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow immortalized Paul Revere and the Old North ensuring their place in American folklore, tradition, and history.
However, he wrote those words more than 80 years after Revere made his famous ride. Whether he didn't know all the facts or took some liberties with them for dramatic effect, Longfellow's poem is not very good history.
For many months before Paul Revere made his ride, tension between the Colonists and British Troops had been on the rise, both in the city and in surrounding towns. The Royal Government (the British government in Massachusetts) wanted to ensure that troops would be able to secure the colony in case of rebellion. Orders went out to confiscate weapons that the Colonists had been storing throughout the countryside.
Several parties of British troops had been sent up the coast to confiscate ammunition in Salem and parts of what is now New Hampshire. In both of those cases, Paul Revere and other riders who were members of the Sons of Liberty, alerted the townspeople of the movement of British troops well before those troops could reach their destinations. The munitions were successfully hidden and the British troops were humiliated
When General Gage, the Commander of British forces in North America and a parishioner at Old North , decided to seize the weapons and ammunition at Lexington and Concord, he didn't want to risk another humiliating failure, so he devised a secret plan. On the evening of April 18th, 1775, he would order his British soldiers cross the Charles River and march the remaining 15 miles to Lexington under the cover of darkness, arrive at sunrise to collect the armaments and return to Boston before the townspeople could organize their resistance.
I don't know why the idiot press is even mentioning the Second Amendment. It was not to be ratified until 16 years later and there wasn't even a Constitution at the time of Revere's ride.
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RogerRabbit said: I see. It went from "told them they can't take away our guns" to "the militia is ready for them", but everything Sarah said is 100% true.
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No Roger, you continue to lie and ignore the actual facts. What Palin said was 100% correct. What you say she said is 100% lie. Everything you say is dumbed down from Palin. You are a liar who doesn't know history and a propagandist who erects shitty straw men when you get caught in your bullshit.
Preserved before you edit. RR
I think I'll keep this gem myself. The mission of the Redcoats was precisely to confiscate weapons. They were warned that the militia was ready for them so that they couldn't perform their mission. Which was to take guns. Keep digging Roger and I'll keep kicking dirt on you. This is fun. Maybe next you'll argue there were no bells pealing like she said. Did you know that church bells were often rung to call out the militia? It's true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Revere
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The ride of the three men triggered a flexible system of "alarm and muster" that had been carefully developed months before, in reaction to the colonists' impotent response to the Powder Alarm of September 1774. This system was an improved version of an old network of widespread notification and fast deployment of local militia forces in times of emergency. The colonists had periodically used this system all the way back to the early years of Indian wars in the colony, before it fell into disuse in the French and Indian War. In addition to other express riders delivering messages, bells, drums, alarm guns, bonfires and a trumpet were used for rapid communication from town to town, notifying the rebels in dozens of eastern Massachusetts villages that they should muster their militias because the regulars in numbers greater than 500 were leaving Boston, with possible hostile intentions. This system was so effective that people in towns 25 miles (40 km) from Boston were aware of the army's movements while they were still unloading boats in Cambridge.[12]
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From your own link
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Revere did not shout the phrase later attributed to him ("The British are coming!"), largely because the mission depended on secrecy and the countryside was filled with British army patrols.
Derp.
I just want to take the time to say that you are an idiot, that you are defending an idiot, and furthering fucking idiocy. Paul Revere did not ride through the streets shouting warnings and ringing bells and firing warning shots and talking tough to the British about how dey wurr only gowna take are muskettes from are cald ded hands! Because if he did that he would have been shot. Better luck next time.
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Revere did not shout the phrase later attributed to him ("The British are coming!"), largely because the mission depended on secrecy and the countryside was filled with British army patrols.
Derp.
I just want to take the time to say that you are an idiot, that you are defending an idiot, and furthering fucking idiocy. Paul Revere did not ride through the streets shouting warnings and ringing bells and firing warning shots and talking tough to the British about how dey wurr only gowna take are muskettes from are cald ded hands! Because if he did that he would have been shot. Better luck next time.
Neither I nor Palin said he did. What the fuck are you babbling about now? Go away. You obviously didn't even read the fucking thread. Palin was correct in what she said and everybody who says otherwise, and this is not just stupid Shroomerites but professional press people, has been demonstratively and definitively proven wrong.
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This is too easy. You realize we'll all still love you if you admit you're wrong right? It's ok bro. It's not the end of the world. A guy on sportscenter said that a turtle was an amphibian. That's wrong, but it's ok man. This is how we learn.
Or we continue to be childish and maintain that everything we say is "100% fact" and that any attempt to correct so-called errors in our statements is just a vast evil conspiracy by the sexist left-wing media who would just be heartbroken if Sarah Palin got elected and lead our country into a golden age that no nation has seen since the glorious days of Raegan.
Give me a fucking break
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Check mate.
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Read the thread, child. Everything she said was correct and I have sourced it all. He did warn the Redcoats that the militia was ready for them (by his own report in a letter that has been quoted), the Redcoats were on a mission to confiscate weapons from the militia and part of the militia callout was bells. Checkmate? You don't play chess. You play UNO. Badly.
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He who warned the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringin’ those bells and, um, makin’ sure as he’s ridin’ his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free. And we were gonna be armed.
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PS your "sources" are conservative drivel sites
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No they aren't. They are the Massachusetts Historical society for the letter from Revere where he reported telling the Redcoats the militia were ready, I used another historical society to establish that the Redcoats' mission was to confiscate weapons and I used wikipedia to establish that there was a system of bells etc. to alert the militia.
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Holy fuck am I glad I was an anchor baby for my parents. I don't wanna have to be a citizen of the united states when people vote the communist back into office for a second term.
Do you people realize what the president is doing to the country ? Thanks be I don't live there anymore. I'm ashamed of my american passport.
Hows that gas price ? is it still going up ? Hows gold and silver, also on the rise ? Your government thinks taxing you MORE is a good idea (rep. C. Rangel). Where is your money going to come from ? Your breaking your own constitution right now (libya) and all you can do is badmouth Palin...
How can you not SEE the destruction the policies of those in power has wrought and is too blame for these hardships ? How can you not SEE people like Paul Ryan and Mrs. Palin have goals that actually have your best interests at heart.
You believe the media lies on how dumb Palin is and how Ryans plan will cut medicare. Palin hates the backstabbing media, due to the obvious and they hate her back. Ryans plan cuts NOTHING from those currently receiving aid and only limits the future entrants to having to pay a little more for the responsibility they can STILL carry.
It's easy to spot those who are actually ignorant and those who have looked at both sides honestly. I don't listen to what someone says someone said. I listen to that person directly and make my own decisions with my own brain, rather than having my opinion given to me.
If you have only one side of the story and it was quickly spoon-fed to you through soundbites and video blips, your a baby in the world of intellectual Men.
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How can you not SEE the destruction the policies of those in power has wrought and is too blame for these hardships ? How can you not SEE people like Paul Ryan and Mrs. Palin have goals that actually have your best interests at heart.
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How can you not SEE the destruction the policies of those in power has wrought and is too blame for these hardships ? How can you not SEE people like Paul Ryan and Mrs. Palin have goals that actually have your best interests at heart.

No you didn't LOL, you raged about how correct I was and gave me a 0 rating . I hit bullseye did I ? I have you so perfectly pegged as to the truth you raged on your keyboard, smacked it a couple times and tried in your tiny way to lash out against the truth as it slapped you cold and hard in the face.
You just handed me the best victory I could imagine. Instead of marginalizing me or ignoring me you've made me greater. You've shown what power I have over you.
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Re: Paul Revere [Re: Flashmob]
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"The truth." Since you're an expert, would you care to explain how plutocrats like Palin and Ryan have my best interests at heart?
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Prisoner#1
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Quote:
Gastronomicus said:

"The truth." Since you're an expert, would you care to explain how plutocrats like Palin and Ryan have my best interests at heart?
I'll tell you if you can tell me how Hope & Change spent trillions in 3 stimulus packages and our unemployment is still at 9.1%, how exactly has the spendthrift marxist plutocrat have our best interests at heart
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That would be spoon feeding you. I was pretty clear you have to come to the journey all by yourself. Do you have no want to not be ignorant? Is there no desire to know both sides of the argument?
You've made clear your opinion of news sites and the like. Without doubt you will have only those sources you trust. I'm not going to try and play footsie link games with you. As shown above you will only discount them as being inaccurate.
Here's a better idea YOU go and listen to the whole Paul Ryan budget proposal. Instead of watching the commercial about his plans and how granny gets wheeled down a cliff. Then taking that as the fact and forming a bias in your mind that was never real in the first place.
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