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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Olympus Mons]
    #14562709 - 06/04/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:lol:

:laugh2:

drugs like prozac dont effect the drug user or sphyconaut.. they effect the sheeple.


psychedelics effect you at a level untouchable to the sheep.  years ago they would lock you up in a tank if you were crazy.  now days they want you to breed.




and to Olympus Mons the question without an answer is just a great question though bc seeking the question is over any answer


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Adden]
    #14562712 - 06/04/11 11:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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he live in a trialer



If you're referring to me, that's not true, I have my own apartment. :poshdance:



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Tryin hard not to be rude, Poid, but you are Poid after all.


I don't get it. :confused:


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If they made you more self-aware and conscious of the constructs of a very difficult and complicated society, shouldn't you be thankful?


Not exactly..the awareness is painful, if anything.


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Yeah we can't all have the Golden Ticket to life, but understanding the world around you isn't a curse. If you don't like the things you can now see, then work to change them. If you found something that you didn't like inside your Self, then change it.


Yup, that's what I'm working towards..I guess I just made this thread seeking some consolation from others. :shrug:


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No matter what, some system of government is going to control you no matter where you go. Economic pressures will be put on you. Entrepreneurs and capitalism will haunt you where you go. You'll be forced to submit and break.

It's called "ruling the masses" and has happening for "a lot longer" and "seems to be the only fucking thing that works".


You mean "has been happening", right? :tongue:


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: the human abstract]
    #14562714 - 06/04/11 11:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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drugs like prozac dont effect the drug user or sphyconaut.. they effect the sheeple.




:confused:

Just because they don't get you high doesn't mean they don't do anything.


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Poid]
    #14562720 - 06/04/11 11:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

all those replies i sense tension..


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14562726 - 06/04/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Not exactly..the awareness is painful, if anything.




I'm sure it feels that way now, but the pain you describe is a sign of growth, possibly healing. Your mind is trying to integrate a large amount of information and it does not happen overnight. Over the years you'll get better at responding to your new awareness and it will stop hurting. It will also make you a stronger, more complete person.

:2cents:


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: the human abstract]
    #14562727 - 06/04/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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:lol:

:laugh2:

drugs like prozac dont effect the drug user or sphyconaut.. they effect the sheeple.


psychedelics effect you at a level untouchable to the sheep.  years ago they would lock you up in a tank if you were crazy.  now days they want you to breed.




and to Olympus Mons the question without an answer is just a great question though bc seeking the question is over any answer



yeah it's an adventure or whatever but sometimes you realize youre really chasing nothing, which is bad because you dont have to chase the nothing, it's coming at you from all sides.


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14562735 - 06/04/11 11:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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drugs like prozac dont effect the drug user or sphyconaut.. they effect the sheeple.




:confused:

Just because they don't get you high doesn't mean they don't do anything.




yeah

youre right

if you were crazy in say the 50s you would be tossed into a tank and NEVER seen again.  these drugs are part of a system to keep the sheep alive.

ppl that go crazy in todays world without psychedelic save the psychedelic user greatly though.

what P-doc do you knwo that understands the paranoia of a thumbprint?


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14562737 - 06/05/11 12:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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I think I was fucked from the drugs I was on as a kid just as much if not more.
Im screwed either way you look at it.

I DID abuse psychedelics but what the fuck can I do about it now? all I can do is not eat more of them.

The damage from all the shit they put me on as a kid is probably what lead to me wanting to abuse psychedelic drugs in the first place. I remember being a kid on ritalin and wanting to eat acid with all my heart.
:sad:

This is why I wont take drugs now.

What the fuck am I supposed to do? all I can do is accept that Im fucked.





I dunno, I think you're one of the most interesting people that post on this board.

@Poid: Yeah, typos, kinda ribbin you a bit too. Very tired. Sorry if interwebz is bad at tone.


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: the human abstract] * 1
    #14562746 - 06/05/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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yeah

youre right

if you were crazy in say the 50s you would be tossed into a tank and NEVER seen again.  these drugs are part of a system to keep the sheep alive.

ppl go crazy in todays world without psychedelics though which save the psychedelic user greatly though.

what P-doc do you knwo that understands the paranoia of a thumbprint?




Not to sidetrack the conversation, but could you avoid calling people "sheep" or "sheeple" in the future? It makes it extremely difficult to take you seriously, even when you're making legit points. I basically agree with you but the verbiage is abrasive.


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14562747 - 06/05/11 12:04 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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all those replies i sense tension..


I'm actually quite relaxed right now, and am about to have me some beer. :beercat:



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Poid said:
Not exactly..the awareness is painful, if anything.




I'm sure it feels that way now, but the pain you describe is a sign of growth, possibly healing. Your mind is trying to integrate a large amount of information and it does not happen overnight. Over the years you'll get better at responding to your new awareness and it will stop hurting. It will also make you a stronger, more complete person.

:2cents:


Well I certainly hope you're right..thanks again for your words. :mushroom2:


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Poid]
    #14562766 - 06/05/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

about to have myself a boo too


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: the human abstract]
    #14562769 - 06/05/11 12:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:lol:

beercat is amzing!!!!!!!


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: LayinUp]
    #14562816 - 06/05/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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if it wasn't for drugs, i'd still be a christian!

then i'd really be PISSED OFF




This.

Psychedelics helped me see how ridiculous the idea of organized religion is.  They also helped me drop most of the Christian Southern Baptist guilt that was ingrained into me by the time I was 10.

I have this weird guilt about being human and imperfect.  I think it came from preachers telling me I deserved to go to Hell because I was born with sin, and constantly trying to scare people into Jesus. 

Without a doubt, being raised in the church did far more damage to my social development than psychedelics ever have. 

Feel better, Poid. :shineon:


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: the human abstract]
    #14562818 - 06/05/11 12:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:sambergfive:


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: PurpleKush]
    #14562820 - 06/05/11 12:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Feel better, Poid. :shineon:


Thanks..I'm trying my best. :smile:


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: PurpleKush]
    #14562839 - 06/05/11 12:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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if it wasn't for drugs, i'd still be a christian!

then i'd really be PISSED OFF




This.

Psychedelics helped me see how ridiculous the idea of organized religion is.  They also helped me drop most of the Christian Southern Baptist guilt that was ingrained into me by the time I was 10.

I have this weird guilt about being human and imperfect.  I think it came from preachers telling me I deserved to go to Hell because I was born with sin, and constantly trying to scare people into Jesus. 

Without a doubt, being raised in the church did far more damage to my social development than psychedelics ever have. 

Feel better, Poid. :shineon:



Being raised southern baptist, I have to agree with you. Jesus was not a fan of organized religion, though. And he never made people feel guilty (at least nobody recorded it iof he did). Gospel means good news in latin, how in the fuck is you're gonna burn in hell good news? How modern christianity has evolved into that, I have no clue. It's without a doubt because of it's use as a tool to control, but why otherwise smart people can't see that, I have no fucking clue :shrug:


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14562845 - 06/05/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The dynamic of Christianity as a mind control system relies heavily upon the ones who know what's up (advanced clergy and the highly educated) absolutely not ever at all admitting that they're making it up as they go along. They have this way of talking down pat for actually talking about it as a mind control system without ever actually directly addressing the fact that they are using it as a mind control system. Read about denominational differences on Wikipedia and you might start to see what I mean. It's really pretty amazing.


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14562847 - 06/05/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ehh.  the ego is very tangled with religion though


idk how one deals with that


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: the human abstract]
    #14562857 - 06/05/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

wow i take my last post back





Christianity wasn't popular because of its ability to deliver intense primary religious experiencing -- every religion of the day was able to provide that.  The socio-political aspect of Christianity and the political allegory-domain was more central for the popularity of Christianity than the mystic-experiencing allegory domain. 


that was taken from egodeath.com


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Re: I sort of wish I had never taken any psychedelic drugs... [Re: the human abstract]
    #14562866 - 06/05/11 12:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I definitely think Christianity may be to blame for the egomania of western society. Many religions have a sacred figure, but the victimization aspect of the Christ figure has given us a victim complex as an entire culture. We always see an evil status quo and want to experience the abject passion of righteousness in the face of it.

I don't fully understand it, but Christianity was definitely a political movement. I think it has something to do with the deification of Roman emperors and the populace's unwillingness to swallow that concept of divinity. Christianity is proofed against that sort of thing.


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